House of Lords Journal Volume 64
26 January 1832

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 64: 26 January 1832', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 64: 1831-1832, pp. 27-29. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=19254 Date accessed: 02 October 2014.


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Die Jovis, 26° Januarii 1832.

DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Dux Cumberland.
Dux Sussex.
Ds. Brougham & Vaux, Cancellarius.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Landaven.
Epus. Cicestrien.
Epus. Laonen, &c.
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Ds. Wellesley, Senescallus.
Ds. Melbourne, Unus Primariorum Secretariorum.
Ds. Dacre.
Ds. Saye & Sele.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Gower.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. Belhaven & Stenton.
Ds. King.
Ds. Boston.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Sundridge & Hamilton.
Ds. Foley.
Ds. Grantley.
Ds. Montagu.
Ds. Kenyon.
Ds. Douglas of Douglas.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Mendip.
Ds. Selsey.
Ds. Carrington.
Ds. Lilford.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Ponsonby of Imokilly.
Ds. Lynedoch.
Ds. Hill.
Ds. Harris.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Penshurst.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Seaford.
Ds. Lyndhurst.
Ds. Fife.
Ds. Melros.
Ds. Stuart de Rothesay.
Ds. Clanwilliam.
Ds. Wynford.
Ds. Kilmarnock.
Ds. Fingall.
Ds. Sefton.
Ds. Dover.
Ds. Chaworth.
Ds. Poltimore.
Ds. Cloncurry.
Ds. De Saumarez.
March Lansdowne, Præses,
Ds. Durham, C. P. S.
Dux Norfolk, Marescallus.
Dux Devonshire, Camerarius.
Dux Richmond.
Dux St. Albans.
Dux Wellington.
March. Salisbury.
March. Abercorn.
March. Thomond.
March. Westmeath.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Shrewsbury.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Essex.
Comes Carlisle.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Oxford & Mortimer.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Cowper.
Comes Pomfret.
Comes De Lawarr.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Bathurst.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Beverley.
Comes Mansfield.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Rosslyn.
Comes Chichester.
Comes Gosford.
Comes Orford.
Comes Grey.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Verulam.
Comes Brownlow.
Comes Eldon.
Comes Vane.
Comes Munster.
Vicecom. Falkland.
Vicecom. Arbuthnott.
Vicecom. Sydney.
Vicecom. Hood.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Beresford.
Vicecom. Goderich.

PRAYERS.

The Earl of Shaftesbury sat Speaker by virtue of a former Commission.

Pasteur's Naturalization Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for naturalizing Pierre Jaques Adolphe Pasteur."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Adam and Mr. Roupell;

To carry down the said Bill, and desire their Concurrence thereto.

Nottidge & Black v. Prichard.

The House being moved, "That a Day may be appointed for hearing the Cause wherein William Nottidge and William Black are Appellants, and George Prichard is Respondent:"

It is Ordered, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel at the Bar, on the first vacant Day for Causes after those already appointed.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed by The Lord Chancellor.

D. of Hamilton v. Aikman, Respondent's Petition to lodge his Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.

Upon reading the Petition of George Robertson Aikman Esquire, Respondent in a Cause depending in this House, to which Alexander Duke of Hamilton and Brandon is Appellant; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to grant him Leave to deposit his Case:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Appeal Committee.

India Trade, Papers respecting, delivered.

The House being informed, "That Mr. Danvers, from the Court of Directors of The East India Company, attended;"

He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant to an Order of the 8th of December last,

"An Account of the Quantity and Value of Cargoes exported by American Ships from the different Ports of British India for the Year 1829-30:"

And also, "A Statement of the Commerce of British India with Great Britain, North America, South America and Foreign Europe, for the Year 1829-30; distinguishing the Trade of The East India Company from that of Individuals, and Merchandize from Treasure."

And then he withdrew.

And the Titles thereof being read by the Clerk;

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.

Office of Works Bill:

The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for uniting the Office of the Surveyor General of His Majesty's Works and Public Buildings with the Office of the Commissioners of His Majesty's Woods, Forests and Land Revenues; and for other Purposes relating to the Land Revenues;"

The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.

Land Revenue (Buckingham Palace) Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to authorize the Application of Part of the Land Revenue of the Crown for the Completion of the Repair and Improvement of Buckingham Palace."

Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.

Reform of Parliament, Petition from Perth in favor of.

Upon reading the Petition of the Noblemen, Gentlemen, Freeholders, Justices of the Peace, Commissioners of Supply, Heritors, Tenants and other Inhabitants of the County of Perth, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to adopt such Measures, as to them may seem expedient, to attain the great National Object, a full, a fair and free Representation of the People:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Baillie v. Grant.

It was moved, "That the Order made on Tuesday last, "That the Cause wherein Alexander Baillie is Appellant, and Miss Margaret Grant is Respondent, be heard by Counsel at the Bar on Friday next," be now read."

The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.

Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.

Mackenzie v. Rose.

It was moved, "That the Order made on Tuesday last, "That the Cause wherein Murdo Mackenzie Esquire is Appellant, and Hugh Rose Esquire is Respondent, be heard by Counsel at the Bar on Friday next," be now read."

The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.

Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.

Tithe System, (Ireland,) Petitions for Revision of: Grenagh:

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Grenagh, County of Cork, Ireland, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to take their Grievances into their favorable Consideration; to amend the Tithe Laws, by which the many are taxed for the Support of the Church of the few; and restore Peace and Goodwill to Ireland, that hitherto distracted Land:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Carne & Lady's Island:

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parishes of Carne and Lady's Island, in the County of Wexford, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to relieve the poor and oppressed People of Ireland from the abominable Tithe System; and to provide for the Clergy of the Established Church out of the Church Lands or from the Revenues of the State:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Tacumshane.

Upon reading the Petition of the Farmers and Landholders of the Parish of Tacumshane, in the County of Wexford, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to take into their immediate and serious Consideration the grievous Consequences of the present grinding Tithe System in Ireland, and grant an immediate Repeal of the same:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Treaty with Belgium, Motion for Address respecting, Negatived.

The Order of the Day being read for the Lords to be summoned;

It was moved, "That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to assure His Majesty that we duly appreciate the Efforts of His Majesty to terminate, in Conjunction with His Allies, the Dissensions which have prevailed in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and to maintain inviolate the Peace of Europe. That, without calling in Question the Necessity of facilitating a Separation of Holland and Belgium upon just and equitable Principles, we beg humbly to represent to His Majesty that we have seen with much Concern the Project of a Treaty which has been made public, and which has for its Object the Provisions consequent upon a final Separation of the Two States; but which, in our humble Apprehension, contains Stipulations incompatible with the Interests of this Country, and injurious to the Honor of His Majesty. Humbly to express to His Majesty our Conviction that an Engagement to guarantee the Execution of all the Articles of which the said Treaty consists, would be improvident and dangeróus; that we fear it might lead to the Necessity of imposing additional Burthens upon His Majesty's Subjects; and, as the Interests which are involved in some of these Articles are various and complicated, the Interference requisite to ensure their Execution must be so frequent, that we cannot but contemplate the Probability of future Discussions, calculated to affect the Stability of the general Peace. Humbly to submit to His Majesty, that Stipulations entered into without the Participation or Consent of The King of the Netherlands, by which a Privilege is given to the Subjects of a Foreign State to navigate in the internal Waters and Canals of Holland, and to carry Roads or Canals through the Dutch Territory, must be regarded as a manifest Violation of National Independence, and as destructive of the Rights of Sovereignty. Humbly to remind His Majesty, that it has long been the established Policy of this Country, and the Practice of His Majesty's Royal Predecessors, to cultivate the strictest Union with the Dutch Nation; an Union, which has heretofore been considered as greatly conducive to the Security of both States, and as the best Support of the Liberties of Europe; and which is still not only agreeable to their respective Interests, but essential to their common Welfare. That to dictate a Treaty to the Dutch Government, by which the Interests of Holland are so deeply affected, and to compel that Government to accept it without Modification, we cannot but consider as unjust, and as likely to prove fatal to the Maintenance of that ancient and intimate Alliance which has so happily subsisted between the Two Countries. Humbly therefore, to pray, that His Majesty will be graciously pleased to issue such Directions as may render the said Treaty, in the Articles above referred to, more consistent with the Regard which is due to the Honor of His Majesty's Crown, to the Security of our own permanent Interests, and to the just Claims of His Majesty's faithful and natural Ally."

Which being objected to; After long Debate,

The Question was put thereupon?

It was resolved in the Negative.

Bromley to enter into a Recogce on Sir W. Eliott's et al. Appeal.

The House being moved, "That John Bromley of New Boswell Court, Carey Street, in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman, may be permitted to enter into a Recognizance for Sir William Francis Eliott Baronet, and others, on account of their Appeal depending in this House:"

The same was agreed to; and Ordered accordingly.

Com ee on Tithes, (Ireland,) Witnesses to attend.

Ordered, That The Very Reverend the Dean of Achonry, and J Burgess, do attend this House on the 2d of February next, to be sworn, in order to their being examined as Witnesses before the Select Committee on Tithes, Ireland.

Lords summoned.

Ordered, That all the Lords be summoned to attend the Service of the House on Tuesday next.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, vicesimum septimum diem instantis Januarii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.