House of Lords Journal Volume 64
15 March 1832

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 64: 15 March 1832', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 64: 1831-1832, pp. 97-99. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=19283 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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Die Jovis, 15° Martii 1832.
Crowder v. Watson et al. Turton & Entwisle Reservoir Bill: Message to H.C. with Amendments to it. Clayton's Divorce Bill reported: Order for 3 a. Jesus College, Cambridge, Petition referred to Judges. Scott v. Steuart et al. Miller et al. v. The Dundee & Newtyle Railway Co. Clark v. Sim, Appellant's Petition for Time for Case, referred to Appeal Com ee. Little Yarmouth Road Bill. Reform of Parliament, (Scotland,) Petition from Argyllshire against Parts of proposed Measure. Reform of Parliament, Petition from Dunoon in favor of. Reform of Parliament, (Ireland,) Petitions of Corporation of Bricklayers, &c. & Guild of Merchants, Dublin, against. Reform of Parliament, & Education, (Ireland,) Petition of Corporation of Shoemakers, Dublin, respecting. Birmingham & Stonebridge Road Bill. Dublin Coal Trade Bill. Leicester (St. Margaret's) Poor Bill. Tobacco (Ireland) Bill. Mills & Factories, Petitions for regulating the Hours of Labour in: (Blackburn:) Devonport & Stoke Damerell: Ditchling. Education, (Ireland,) Petitions against proposed Plan of: (Abp. & Clergy of Diocese of Tuam:) Abp. of Tuam & Clergy of Diocese of Ardagh: Kilbroney: Bp. & Clergy of Diocese of Elphin: Clonmel: Stambourne. Mutiny Continuing Bill: Marine Mutiny Continuing Bill: Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the 2 preceding Bills. Juries (Ireland) Bill. Education, (Ireland,) Copy of Letter from Secretary for Ireland to D. of Leinster, respecting, Ordered. Lords summoned. Tithes, (Ireland,) Petitions for Abolition of: (Drogheda:) Landholders, Harristown: Tithe-payers, Harristown. Order in Council under Cholera Prevention Act (Scotland) delivered. Papers to be printed: Claim to Reade Baronetcy: Record in a Suit, Ld. Galmoy v. Sir W. Betham: Sums paid by Claimants of Baronies; & Statements delivered to such Claimants. Adjourn.

Die Jovis, 15° Martii 1832.

DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Epus. Bath. et Well.
Epus. Laonen, &c.
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Ds. Petre.
Ds. Saye & Sele.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. King.
Ds. Monson.
Ds. Sundridge & Hamilton.
Ds. Suffield.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Selsey.
Ds. Dundas.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Ponsonby of Imokilly.
Ds. Clanbrassill.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Wharncliffe.
Ds. Fife.
Ds. Plunket.
Ds. Melros.
Ds. Stuart de Rothesay.
Ds. Rosebery.
Ds. Fingall.
Ds. Sefton.
Ds. Dover.
Ds. Chaworth.
Ds. Howden.
Ds. Panmure.
Ds. Oakley.
Ds. Templemore.
Ds. Cloncurry.
March. Lansdowne, Præses.
Dux Richmond.
March. Queensberry.
March. Bute.
March. Thomond.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Selkirk.
Comes Oxford & Mortimer.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Charlemont.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Rosslyn.
Comes Chichester.
Comes Gosford.
Comes Grey.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Howe.
Comes Vane.
Comes Amherst.
Vicecom. Bolingbroke & St. John.
Vicecom. Hood.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Beresford.
Vicecom. Goderich.
Ds. Melbourne, Unus Primariorum Secretariorum.
Ds. Stourton.

PRAYERS.

The Earl of Shaftesbury sat Speaker by virtue of a former Commission.

Crowder v. Watson et al.

The Answer of Robert Watson and Gilbert Watson, Bankers in Glasgow, carrying on Business there under the Firm of James and Robert Watson, to the Petition and Appeal of Mrs. Elizabeth Rebecca Crowder or Turnley, Wife of Charles William Turnley of the Parish of Islington, in the County of Middlesex, England, and present Prisoner in the Jail of Glasgow, was this Day brought in.

Turton & Entwisle Reservoir Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for making and maintaining a Reservoir upon Bradshaw Brook in the Townships of Turton and Entwisle, in the Parish of Bolton-le-Moors, in the County of Lancaster, for providing a more regular Supply of Water in Bradshaw Brook aforesaid, and in certain Rivers connected therewith."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Giffin Wilson and Mr. Martin;

To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with some Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.

Clayton's Divorce Bill reported:

The Earl of Shaftesbury (according to Order) reported the Amendment made by the Committee of the Whole House to the Bill, intituled, "An Act to dissolve the Marriage of William Robert Clayton Esquire with Alice Hugh Massy his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again; and for other Purposes."

And the said Amendment, being read Twice by the Clerk, was agreed to by the House.

Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendment, be ingrossed.

Order for 3 a.

Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.

Jesus College, Cambridge, Petition referred to Judges.

Upon reading the Petition of The Master or Keeper, Fellows and Scholars of the College of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint John the Evangelist, and the Glorious Virgin Saint Rhadegund, (commonly called Jesus College,) in the University of Cambridge, under their Common Seal; praying Leave to bring in a Bill for the Purposes in the said Petition mentioned:

It is Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be, and is hereby referred to Mr. Justice Gaselee and Mr. Justice Bosanquet, who are forthwith to summon all Parties concerned in the Bill, and, after hearing them, are to report to the House the State of the Case, with their Opinion thereupon, under their Hands, and whether all Parties, who may be concerned in the Consequences of the Bill, have signed the Petition; and also, that the Judges, having perused the Bill, do sign the same.

Scott v. Steuart et al.

Upon reading the Petition and Appeal of Alexander Scott Esquire, Writer to the Signet; complaining of an Interlocutor of the Lord Ordinary in Scotland, bearing Date the 29th Day of June 1827; also of an Interlocutor of the Lords of Session there, of the First Division, bearing Date the 28th and signed the 29th Day of January 1829; also of Two Interlocutors of the Lord Ordinary, bearing Date the 23d Day of June 1829 and the 17th Day of January 1832; and also of an Interlocutor of the said Lords of Session, of the First Division, bearing Date the 29th Day of February and signed the 7th Day of March 1832; and praying, "That the same may be reversed, varied or altered, or that the Appellant may have such Relief in the Premises, as to this House, in their Lordships great Wisdom, shall seem meet; and that James Steuart Esquire, of Brugh, Mrs. Marion Steuart, and William Steuart, Merchant in Leith, may be required to answer the said Appeal:"

It is Ordered, That the said James Steuart, Marion Steuart and William Steuart may have a Copy of the said Appeal, and do put in their Answer or respective Answers thereunto, in Writing, on or before Thursday the 12th Day of April next; and Service of this Order upon the said Respondents, or upon their known Agent or Agents in the Court of Session in Scotland, shall be deemed good Service.

Miller et al. v. The Dundee & Newtyle Railway Co.

Upon reading the Petition and Appeal of James Miller Esquire, of Milton, and James Soot and David Soot, Merchants in Dundee; complaining of an Interlocutor of the Court of Session in Scotland, of the Second Division, dated the 31st Day of January 1832, in so far as it repels the Defences pleaded for the Petitioners, and decerns against them in Terms of the Conclusions of the Libel, and finds them liable in Expences of Process; and also of an Interlocutor of the said Court of Session, dated the 8th and signed 9th of March 1832, in so far as it approves of the Auditor's Report, and decerns against the Petitioners conjointly and severally, for the One Half of the Sum of Two hundred and twenty-six Pounds Fifteen Shillings and Four-pence; and praying, "That the same may be reversed, varied or altered, so far as complained of, or that the Appellants may have such Relief in the Premises, as to this House, in their Lordships great Wisdom, shall seem meet; and that The Dundee and Newtyle Railway Company may be required to answer the said Appeal:"

It is Ordered, That the said Dundee and Newtyle Railway Company may have a Copy of the said Appeal, and do put in their Answer thereunto, in Writing, on or before Thursday the 12th Day of April next; and Service of this Order upon the said Respondents, or upon the Clerk of the said Company, or any one of their known Agents in the Court of Session in Scotland, shall be deemed good Service.

Clark v. Sim, Appellant's Petition for Time for Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.

Upon reading the Petition of Charles Clark, Appellant in a Cause depending in this House, to which James Sim is Respondent; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to grant a Month for printing, settling and lodging the Petitioner's Case:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Appeal Committee.

Little Yarmouth Road Bill.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for more effectually repairing the Road from Little Yarmouth to Blythburgh, and from Brampton to Halesworth, in the County of Suffolk," was committed; "That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Reform of Parliament, (Scotland,) Petition from Argyllshire against Parts of proposed Measure.

Upon reading the Petition of the Noblemen, Freeholders, Commissioners of Supply and Justices of the Peace of the County of Argyll, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to sanction any Measure for amending the Representation of the People of Scotland, which shall confer the Elective Franchise for County Members on Ten Pounds Householders, that would disjoin from Argyllshire the District of Cowal, or which would change the System of voting in the Royal Burghs of Scotland, and disfranchise Rothesay as a Royal Burgh; and that should it be proposed to add an additional Member to any of the Scotch Counties, the County of Argyll may receive that Privilege, that County being fully entitled to it, both from the Extent of its Territory and the Amount of its Population, which according to the last Census was One hundred and one thousand:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Reform of Parliament, Petition from Dunoon in favor of.

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Dunoon, assembled by Public Advertisement, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That the same Measure for amending the Representation of the People as that which received the Sanction of the other Branch of the Legislature, or one equally efficient and liberal, may meet their Lordships Approbation:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Reform of Parliament, (Ireland,) Petitions of Corporation of Bricklayers, &c. & Guild of Merchants, Dublin, against.

Upon reading the Petition of the Corporation of Bricklayers and Plaisterers, or Guild of Saint Bartholomew, Dublin, under their Common Seal; praying their Lordships "to interpose the strong Arm of their Power and Authority to arrest the further Progress of the Bill for Reform in the Representation of the People in Ireland, and thereby prevent the Trial of so dangerous and uncertain an Experiment as that of permitting the same to pass into a Law:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Upon reading the Petition of The Masters, Wardens, and Brethren of the Guild of Merchants of the City of Dublin, under their Common Seal; praying their Lordships "to preserve what yet remains of our happy Constitution, by rejecting the proposed Measure of Reform in the Representation of the People in Ireland:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Reform of Parliament, & Education, (Ireland,) Petition of Corporation of Shoemakers, Dublin, respecting.

Upon reading the Petition of the Corporation of Shoemakers, or Guild of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Dublin, under their Common Seal; praying their Lordships "to take the Situation of Petitioners and the Protestants of Ireland at large into their serious Consideration; and not to agree to any Measures for amending the Representation of the People, or altering the present System of Education of the Poor of Ireland, which would, by depriving the Petitioners of their Rights, or of the Security of the Laws for the Maintenance of their Religion and Preservation of their Property, weaken the Connexion between the Countries, and possibly deprive our gracious Monarch of one of the brightest Jewels in His Crown:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Birmingham & Stonebridge Road Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Gray Skipwith and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for repairing the Road from Birmingham (through Elmdon) to Stonebridge, in the County of Warwick;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Dublin Coal Trade Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Ruthven and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal several Acts of the Parliament of Ireland imposing Restrictions upon the Coal Trade, and to regulate the same;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.

Leicester (St. Margaret's) Poor Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Evans and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for better assessing and collecting the Poor and other Parochial Rates, and for the better Maintenance and Employment of the Poor of the Parish of Saint Margaret, in the Borough and County of Leicester;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Tobacco (Ireland) Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Francis Vincent and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to provide for the Sale, Manufacture and Consumption of Tobacco grown in Ireland before the First Day of January One thousand eight hundred and thirty-two;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.

Mills & Factories, Petitions for regulating the Hours of Labour in: (Blackburn:)

Upon reading the Petition of the Clergy, Medical Practitioners, Master Manufacturers, Working Spinners and others employed in Cotton Factories and other Mills in the Township of Blackburn, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to shorten the Duration of the daily Labour of Children and others employed in Cotton Mills and other Factories, by limiting it to Ten Hours per Day, exclusive of Meals; and to prohibit the injurious Practice of working in the Night in such Mills and Factories; and to abolish, not only that Practice, but all others which reduce such Children to a State of Slavery worse than that of the Negro:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Devonport & Stoke Damerell:

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Town of Devonport and Parish of Stoke Damerell, in the County of Devon, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to take into consideration the wretched Condition of the poor Children in the Woollen, Cotton, Worsted, Flax and Silk Mills and Factories; and to enact that the Period of Work for the Children shall be Ten Hours on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, and Eight on Saturday, and that no Child under Nine Years of Age shall be allowed to work in any Factory or Mill:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Ditchling.

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Village and Neighbourhood of Ditchling, in the County of Sussex, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying "for the Attention of their Lordships to the lamentable Condition of the poor Children employed in Woollen, Cotton, Worsted, Flax and Silk Mills and Factories; and that a Limitation may be put upon the Age at which Children should be received to work in such Mills and Factories, and also upon the Hours of Employment whilst in them, to the Intent that they may not be deprived of the Opportunity of healthful Exercise and mental Improvement which they might thus obtain:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Education, (Ireland,) Petitions against proposed Plan of:

Upon reading the Petition of The Archbishop and Clergy of the Diocese of Tuam, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:

(Abp. & Clergy of Diocese of Tuam:)

Also, Upon reading the Petition of The Archbishop of Tuam and Clergy of the Diocese of Ardagh, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:

Abp. of Tuam & Clergy of Diocese of Ardagh: Kilbroney:

Also, Upon reading the Petition of The Bishop and Protestant Clergy of the Diocese of Elphin, in Ireland, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:

Bp. & Clergy of Diocese of Elphin:

Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Protestant Clergy and Laymen of various Denominations of the Parish of Kilbroney, in the County of Down, Ireland, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:

Clonmel:

And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Protestant Clergy of various Denominations and Protestant Laymen of the Town and Neighbourhood of Clonmel, County Tipperary, Ireland, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; severally praying their Lordships, "That no Legislative Measures may be enacted, and no Parliamentary Aid afforded to any System of Education of the Poor of Ireland, inconsistent with the great and distinguishing Principle of the Christian Faith, namely, that the whole Word of God shall be the only acknowledged Standard of National Education:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the Table.

Stambourne.

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Stambourne, in the County of Essex, and of a few Individuals in its immediate Vicinity, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to sanction any unrighteous Project to establish in Ireland, at the Public Expence, Schools from which the Bible is to be either wholly or partially excluded; but, on the contrary, to withhold all Grants of Public Money for the Support of any System which keeps the People in Ignorance of the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom He hath sent:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Mutiny Continuing Bill:

The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for continuing an Act passed in the First Year of His present Majesty, for punishing Mutiny and Desertion, and for the better Payment of the Army and their Quarters;"

The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Marine Mutiny Continuing Bill:

The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for continuing an Act passed in the First Year of His present Majesty, for the Regulation of His Majesty's Royal Marine Forces while on Shore;"

The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the 2 preceding Bills.

And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.

Juries (Ireland) Bill.

The Order of the Day being read for the House to be put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for consolidating and amending the Laws relative to Jurors and Juries in Ireland;" and for the Lords to be summoned;

Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Thursday next; and that the Lords be summoned.

Education, (Ireland,) Copy of Letter from Secretary for Ireland to D. of Leinster, respecting, Ordered.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House, "A Copy of a Letter from The Chief Secretary for Ireland to His Grace The Duke of Leinster, on the Formation of a Board of Commissioners for Education in Ireland."

Lords summoned.

Ordered, That all the Lords be summoned to attend the Service of the House on Thursday next.

Tithes, (Ireland,) Petitions for Abolition of: (Drogheda:)

Upon reading the Petition of the Roman Catholic Inhabitants of the County of the Town of Drogheda, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That Tithes and Ministers Money may be abolished; that Catholics and Dissenters may be relieved from contributing in any way to the Support of the Protestant Church; and that the Church Lands may be appropriated to the Use of the State:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Landholders, Harristown:

Upon reading the Petition of the Landholders of the Parish of Harristown, in the King's County, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will, by a prompt and efficient Legislation, restore the Property of the Church and the Tithes to the Purposes for which they were originally destined:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Tithe-payers, Harristown.

Upon reading the Petition of the Tithe-payers of the Parish of Harristown, King's County, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to take the Petitioners distressed State into their immediate Consideration, and adopt such Measures as will relieve them from the unnecessary and unjust Tax of Tithes, which the Law, as it at present stands, authorizes their Rector to extort from them:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Order in Council under Cholera Prevention Act (Scotland) delivered.

The Lord President laid before the House, pursuant to the Directions of an Act of Parliament,

"Order of the Lords of the Council relating to the defraying of Expences incurred by Boards of Health in Scotland, issued 10th March 1832, under the Scotch Cholera Prevention Act."

And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;

Ordered, That the said Paper do lie on the Table.

Ordered, That the said Paper be printed.

Papers to be printed:

Claim to Reade Baronetcy:

Ordered, That the Copies of all Papers recorded in the Heralds College, connected with the Claim, made in 1810, of a Person calling himself Sir William Reade, to the Title of Baronet, as the Representative of the Baronet of that Name, of Brocket Hall, in the County of Herts, delivered to the House on the 20th of February last:

Record in a Suit, Ld. Galmoy v. Sir W. Betham:

And also, The Record of a Suit in the Court of King's Bench, Dublin, entitled "Butler Lord Galmoy versus Sir William Betham," in 1828:

Sums paid by Claimants of Baronies;

Also, The Account of all Sums paid at the Office of Arms in Ireland, by Claimants of Baronies descending through Heirs Female, or Baronies in Fee, from 1824 to 1831:

Also, The Return to an Order requiring an Account of Sums paid by Persons claiming similar Baronies as Heirs Male, in same Office, from 1817 to 1825:

& Statements delivered to such Claimants.

And also, The Return to an Order requiring Copies of such Statements as were prepared and delivered to all or any of the above Claimants, severally delivered to the House on the 6th of this instant March, be printed.

Adjourn.

Comes Shaftesbury declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, decimum sextum diem instantis Martii, horâ decimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.