Die Veneris, 10; Decembris, 1641.
Leave of Absence.
SIR Tho. Widdrington has leave to go into the Country.
Peers interfering in Elections.
Whereas the House of Commons has received Information, that Letters from Peers are directed to Boroughs,
that now are to make Elections of Members to serve in
this Parliament: They conceive, that all Letters of that
nature, from any Peers of this Realm, do necessarily tend
to the Violation of the Privileges of Parliament, and the
Freedom of Elections of the Members that ought to serve
in the House of Commons: And do declare, that, notwithstanding such Letters, all Persons, to whom Elections
of Knights and Burgesses do belong, ought to proceed
to their Elections with that Freedom, which, by the
Laws of the Realm, and of Right, they ought to do; and
do expect, that if any such Letters, from any Peers of the
Realm, shall hereafter be sent unto them, that the Parties receiving the same shall certify the Contents thereof,
or bring the Letters themselves to the Speaker of the
House of Commons.
Resolved, upon the Question, That it shall be thus
ordered: And that the Knights, Citizens, Burgesses, and
Barons of the Cinque Ports, shall send Copies of this
Order to the several Counties, Cities, Boroughs, and
Cinque Ports respectively.
Examining convicted Priests.
Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Mr. L. Whittacre,
Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Maynard, and Mr. Wheeler, do
examine the several Priests that are now convicted, or
about to be convicted, upon such Questions and Matters
as they shall think fit; and report the same to the House
Persons to be apprehended.
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker grant forth a Warrant for
the Summoning and Apprehending of such Persons as Sir
Walter Erle shall nominate unto him, concerning Words
of dangerous Consequence this Day related in the House;
and, as it is informed, spoken by them.
Resolved, upon the Question, That it shall be thus
Records not to be taken from Clerk's Custody.
Sir Arthur Haselreg moved the House against the
Clerk, for suffering his Journals or Papers committed to
his Trust, to be taken by Members of this House from
the Table; for that, if any Alteration were made in an
Order, though but in a Word, the Clerk could not answer it; and therefore desired it might be ordered, that,
for the future, the Clerk should not suffer the same; it
being a Thing against his Duty, and the Trust he is sworn
unto: But the House declined the making any Order
herein; declaring, That it was a fundamental Order of the
House, that the Clerk, who is the sworn Officer, and intrusted with the Entries and the Custody of the Records
of the House, ought not to suffer any Journal or Record
to be taken from the Table, or out of his Custody: And
that if he shall hereafter do it, after this Warning, that at
his Peril he shall do it.
Serjeant Wilde reports the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers,
returned from the Lords at a Conference, with some
The Question for inserting these Two Words into the
Bill for pressing, "or compelled," was put; and
It went with the Negative.
The rest of the Amendments were put to the Question;
and assented unto.
The Proviso was likewise put to the Question; -assented unto.
Privilege- Gnards about Parliament.
Ordered, That the Serjeant shall require some of the
Halberdiers, or some of those that have the Command
of them, to come hither to the Bar.
The Bailiff of the Duchy of Lancaster being called in;
was demanded by what Authority he brought down Men
armed: He said, the Sheriff received a Writ from the
Lord Keeper; and that the Under Sheriff gave him
Warrant to do it.
The Constable of St.Clements Danes was called in;
and asked by what Authority he brought down those
Men armed: He answered, he received a Command
from the Bailiff of the Duchy; and that the Bailiff of the
Duchy shewed him a Statute.
Ordered, That Mr.Prunne, the Under Sheriff of the
County of Midd' shall be required forthwith to attend
this House presently; and that he bring with him any
Writ, that he has received for bringing any Forces to
Westminister about the Houses of Parliament.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Setting of any
Guards about this House, without the Consent of this
House, is a Breach of the Privilege of the House: And
that therefore such Guards ought to be discharged.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this Guard shall be
immediately discharged by the Command of this House.
The Serjeant carried a Copy of this Order to the Under Sheriff and other Officers; requiring them to discharge them accordingly: And the Under Sheriff, and
Bailiff of the Duchy Liberty, are required to attend the
House so soon as they have executed this Order, and
dismissed those Guards.
Compelling Service in Wars.
Moved, That the House would hereafter take into
Consideration how far the Subject may be compelled to
serve in the Wars.
Mr. Martin is appointed to go to the Lords; To desire
a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses; so soon as
may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning Amendments, returned at a Conference from the
Lords, to the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Whittlock, are appointed Managers of this Conference.
Ordered, That the Bill for Pressing of Mariners shall
be reported the first Business To-morrow Morning: And
that after that Bill shall be reported, that the Conference
concerning Ro. Phillips the Priest * * * *
Mr. Pym reports from the Committee, Heads for a
Conference to be desired with the Lords concerning a
Declaration to be made, touching no Toleration to be
granted of the Popish Religion in Ireland, or any other
of his Majesty's Dominions.
Mr.Martin brings Answer, that the Lords will give
a present Meeting, at a Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, presently, as is
Popish Religion, &c.
(a) That the Report now made by Mr. Pym, concerning
a Declaration, shall be considered of To-morrow Morning at Ten of Clock: And Mr. Speaker is to put the
House in mind, of this Order.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House will
now proceed with the Report made by Mr. Pym of the
Declaration and Reasons.
Ordered, That this Declaration, and the Reasons, shall
be sent up To-morrow to the Lords at a Conference:
And Mr. Pym is, to manage that Conference.
Mr. Hotham is appointed to go up to the Lords To-
morrow Morning; to desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Affairs of Ireland.
Ordered, That it be referred to the same Committee to
prepare One Head, to be inserted into the Declaration
concerning the Queen.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloff and
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee
of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand
with the Conveniency of this House, touching some weighty
Matters contained in the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers.
The Messengers were called in again; and desired by
Mr. Speaker to deliver their Message again; which they
did in the same Terms as formerly.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Whittlock, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Prideaux, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Privilege-Guards about Parliament.
The Under Sheriff was called in; and demanded whether he gave Command, that any Forces should be gathered, and brought down armed ......
Ordered, That the Under Sheriff of the County of
Midd; and the Bailiff of the Duchy Liberty; and the several Justices that subscribed the Warrant directed to
Edw. Buckle, One of the High Constables of the Hundred
of Osalton in the County of Midd'; and the said Edw.
Buckle; be required to attend this House To-morrow.
The Introduction, the Heads for a Declaration, and
the Heads of a Declaration, concerning the Affairs of
Ireland, were all read, and voted; and, upon the Question, assented unto. * * * *