House of Commons Journal Volume 4
14 January 1645

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 14 January 1645', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 19-20. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23295 Date accessed: 03 September 2014.


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Die Martis, Januarii 14, 1644.

Prayers.

AN Ordinance for reimbursing and securing to the Commissioners of Excise One thousand Pounds, advanced and lent by them for the Benefits of the Reformadoes, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That the Committee for Reformadoes do pursue the former Orders and Resolutions concerning the Payment and Distributing of these Monies; and concerning the Debentures to the Reformadoes.

Ordered, That Seven hundred Musquets, with their Furniture, be forthwith provided and furnished out of the publick Stores, and sent to Sir John Price, for the Encouragement of the Parliament's Forces, in the Parts of Montgomeryshire, and the Parts adjacent, and those that do adhere to them.

Ordered, That Three hundred Pair of Pistols and Holsters, and Seven hundred Swords, be provided upon the Credit of Haberdashers-Hall, to be repaid at Three Months End, to be sent to Sir John Price, for the Encouragement of the Parliament's Forces in the Parts of Montgomeryshire, and the Parts adjacent, and those that do adhere unto them.

Mr. Browne reports, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, a Commission to Morrogh Lord Baron of Inchiquin to be President of Munster; together with Instructions for the said Lord Inchiquin: The which were read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence, by Mr. Sam. Browne. And it is referred to him to compare the Commission with the Original; and to see, that the Clauses of Non obstante be left out, before it be sent to the Lords.

The House likewise added an Instruction to the Instructions, that came from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning the Lord Inchiquin's encouraging and taking the Subscriptions of Officers for Land in Ireland, to be accounted as Part of their Pay.

Upon a further Report, by Mr. Browne, of a Paper, of the Ninth of January, delivered in by the Scotts Commissioners; the which was read in hæc verba;

"Having received Two Papers concerning the Marching of the Scotts Army Southward, dated the Fourth of January, 1644; we desire to know, whether the Thirty thousand Pounds, therein mentioned to be paid unto them, be a Part of their Arrears preceding this Time, or the Month's Pay wherein they are to march; and that it be (as we conceive it is) without Prejudice of the Ten thousand Pounds voted by the House towards the Payment of the Arrears of the Forces brought in by the Earl of Calender; which Vote we have.... known to the Parliament of Scotland:"

Resolved, &c. That the Intention of the House, in assigning Thirty thousand Pounds to the Scotts Army, upon their March Southward, is, that the said Thirty thousand Pounds should be accounted for the Month's Pay wherein they are to march, and not to be paid unto them as Part of their Arrears preceding that Time.

The House doth further declare, That their Intention is not, that the Ten thousand Pounds, voted by the House towards the Payment of the Arrears of the Forces brought in by the Earl of Calendar, should be understood to be Part of the foresaid Thirty thousand Pounds, or to be included within that Sum.

Ordered, That the Members of this House, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, doth acquaint the Scotts Commissioners with this Declaration.

According to the Order Yesterday, the House proceeded to the Nominating of the Commissioners to be employed upon the Treaty at Uxbridge.

The Names of the particular Persons nominated were all particularly put to the Question: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and appoint Lord Wenman, Mr. Holles, Mr. Pierrepont, Mr. Whitelock, Sir Hen. Vane junior, Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Crew, to be the Commissioners from this House to be employed upon the Treaty.

Sir John Evelyn went up to the Lords, to acquaint them with the Additions Yesterday made to the Report concerning the Treaty, according to the Order Yesterday; and that this House had nominated their Commissioners.

He was likewise to desire the Lords to expedite the Order for regulating Free-Billet and Quarter; and likewise the Ordinance for continuing the Ordinance for Martial Law: And was to desire them to sit awhile.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Members of this House, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider of fitting the Bill for taking away Episcopacy, with such Alterations, as are necessarily occasioned by the Treaty with the Scotts, concluded since the said Bill was first presented to his Majesty.

A Letter from Abington, of Januarii 11, relating a great Repulse given to the King's Forces attempting to storm that Town.

Mr. Whitelock is to prepare a Letter, to be signed by Mr. Speaker, to Colonel Browne, in Acknowledgment of his late great Services done.

Resolved, &c. That Two thousand Pounds be forthwith provided for the Garison of Abington, to be sent to Colonel Richard Browne, Governor there; One thousand Pounds out of Haberdashers-Hall; and One thousand Pounds out of the Excise.

Mr. Green, Mr. Whitelock, and Mr. Winwood, are appointed to go to the Commissioners of Excise, for the Procuring of this One thousand Pounds.

Ordered, That the Earl of Manchester be desired to give Order to his Treasurer, to pay a Month's Pay to the Forces of the Association, that are now at Abingdon, to encourage them in their good Service.

Sir Wm. Massam is appointed to acquaint the Earl of Manchester with this Order.

Ordered, That the Sending of the Horse to the Garison of Abingdon, and Settling of some Horse there; and the Preventing of the Enemy to fortify the Lady Carie's House at Cullam near Abingdon; be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Ordered, That Mr. Theloell do prepare a Letter of Thanks, to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to Colonel Langhorn and Captain Swanley, in Acknowledgment of their Services, and to encourage them to proceed.

The Copy of a Letter from Captain Swanley, of Januarii 1, sent in by the Lord Admiral, concerning the Taking of some Irish Commissioners, was this Day read; and some other Papers were likewise presented from the Lord Admiral: The which were appointed to be taken into Consideration, when the Business of the Navy shall be considered of.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have received a Paper from the Resident of Portugall, which concerns himself; and reflects something upon a Member of this House; and therefore they thought fit to send it to this House.

Ordered, That this Paper from the Portugall Resident, sent from the Lords, together with That presented to Mr. Speaker, be read on Saturday next.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have sent down the Ordinance concerning the Regulating Billet and Free-Quarter; to which they do agree, with some Alterations, and a Proviso, sent down herewith: They do likewise desire, that the Commissioners, designed to go upon the Treaty to Uxbridge, may presently meet in the Prince's Lodgings, to consider of some Accommodations for that Journey.

Resolved, &c. To agree to the Amendment.

Resolved, &c. To adhere to the Ordinance, as it went from hence.

Mr. Strode, and the Committee that prepared this Ordinance, are to prepare Reasons to be given to the Lords for adhering to the Ordinance as it went from hence.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Brown brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Commission for my Lord Inchiquyn to be Lord President of Munster; and to the Instructions for him.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of the Great Seal do pass the Commission or Patent under the Great Seal, for the Lord Inchiquin to be Lord President of Munster.

Ordered, That the Committee, formerly appointed to prepare the Ordinance for establishing the Army according to the new Model, do bring in that Ordinance To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That the Business of the Church be proceeded in To-morrow, according to former Order.

The Business of the Treaty being settled, the House, according to their former Order, proceeded to the Consideration of the Business concerning Church-Government: And

It is Resolved, &c. That many particular Congregations may be under One Presbyterial Government.

Resolved, &c. That this Vote shall be Part of an Ordinance.

Sir John Evelyn brings Answer, That, to all the Messages carried up by him, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Resolved, &c. That One thousand Pounds shall be charged upon the Excise; to be raised thence, and paid, upon Account, to Colonel Norton's Regiment.

Ordered, That the Committee of this House, appointed for the Regulating the Affairs of the Excise, do meet this Afternoon, and go to the Office of Excise, concerning the Settling of Businesses for the Advancement of the Excise; and the procuring Ten thousand Pounds for my Lord General and Sir Wm. Waller; and One thousand Pounds for Colonel Norton's Regiment.

WHereas Jo. Towse Esquire, Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise and New Impost, have advanced and lent the Sum of One thousand Pounds for Payment of the Reformadoes; Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners of Excise shall and may satisfy and reimburse themselves the said One thousand Pounds, together with Interest for the same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum, for so long Time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be forborn, out of such Intervals of Receipts as shall happen when other Payments upon the Monies coming in upon the Office of Excise shall not fall due; or, for want of such Materials, then as the same shall follow in Course; and shall not, by any other Order or Ordinance of one or both Houses of Parliament, be debarred from satisfying and reimbursing themselves accordingly out of the Receipts of the said Office: And that the said Commissioners of Excise shall pay the said Sum of One thousand Pounds unto Sir Walter Erle Knight, and Richard Knightley Esquire, or either of them, for the Use aforesaid; either of whose Receipts shall be their sufficient Discharge in this Behalf. And, lastly, it is Declared, That the Committee appointed by the House of Commons for Reformadoes, do take care, that the People, to whom the Scotts Reformadoes are indebted for Diet and Lodging, do receive some Satisfaction out of the said Thousand Pounds, according to a former Order of the House of Commons of One-andtwentieth Day of June 1644.