House of Commons Journal Volume 4
28 March 1645

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 28 March 1645', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 91-92. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23355 Date accessed: 26 October 2014.


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Die Veneris, Martii 28, 1645.

Prayers.

MR. Crewe reports, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, the humble Desires and Propositions of the Committee of the County of Surry, touching the Safety of the County, and the Government of FarnehamCastle; and the Answers of Colonel Sam. Jones, the present Governor, to the said Propositions; and the Opinion of the Committee, That the Propositions, made by the Committee of Surry, are for the Advantage of the Publick.

Ordered, That Sir Hen. Heyman, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Millington, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Baynton, Sir Arth. Hesilrig, do treat with Colonel Jones concerning FarnehamCastle; and report his Answer To-morrow Morning.

Sir Jo. Evelyn carried up to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for securing the Eighty thousand Pounds, lent by the City: The Oath to be tendered to such as come out of the King's Quarters: The additional Ordinance for Pressing: The Ordinance for guarding the North Sea Fishing: The Ordinance for Discharge of Mr. Thorneton's Delinquency: The Vote for the Pardon of Tho. Seppens: The Ordinance concerning Lincolneshire.

Mr. Pierrepont carried up to the Lords the Order concerning the Lady Manners: The Propositions from the Crown of Swede's Agent to the Committee of both . . . .; and a Letter in Answer to those Propositions.

Mr. Strode went up to the Lords, to desire their Lordships to hasten Sir Tho. Fairefaxe's Commission; because it concerns the immediate Safety of the Kingdom.

Mr. Prideaux reports, That but Two thousand Pounds of the Four thousand Pounds can be had and advanced by the Commissioners for Excise, to be sent to Reading.

Ordered, That Mr. Nicoll and Mr. Whitelock do go to the Commissioners of Excise, and press them with the extreme Necessity of speedy furnishing the Three thousand Pounds formerly appointed for Abingdon.

Sir John Eveling brings Answer, That the Lords agree to the Order touching the Discharge for Sippens: As to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Stroade brings Answer, That the Lords will take the Commission to Sir Thomas Fairfax into speedy Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Pierpont brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Petition of the Lady Mannors; and, as to the Propositios from the Commissioner from the Queen of Sweden, and the Letter in Answer thereof, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the Committee named in the Ordinance for securing the Eighty thousand Pounds, lent by the City, do, in pursuance of the said Ordinance, issue their Warrants to the Treasurers named in that Ordinance for the Payment of One thousand Pounds, out of the said Eighty thousand Pounds, into Haberdashers-Hall; the which One thousand Pounds was formerly lent by the said Committee to Sir Thomas Fairfax, upon Account, for the Service of his Army.

Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons, for Advance of Monies at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith pay, upon Account, unto Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, One thousand Pounds, to be sent to Redding, towards the Pay of the Foot there.

Ordered, That the Committee for Wood do forthwith, by way of Loan, advance and pay, upon Account, unto Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, One thousand Pounds, to be sent forthwith to Redding, towards the Pay of the Forces there: And that this One thousand Pounds be charged upon the Excise; and repaid to the Committee for Wood, in its Course.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde is desired to move the Committee for the Loan of this One thousand Pounds.

An Ordinance for reimbursing the Commissioners of Excise Two thousand Pounds, advanced by them, and paid to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, for the Pay of my Lord General's Foot at Redding and Farneham, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence, by Mr. Nicoll:

He likewise carried up the Order for One thousand Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, for the Pay of the Foot at Redding.

Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerard do forthwith send away the Four thousand Pounds provided for my Lord General's Foot at Redding and Farneham.

Sir Henry Mildmay went up to the Lords, to acquaint them with the Necessity of speedy passing the Ordinance for securing the Eighty thousand Pounds, lent by the City; otherwise no Money can be had for the immediate and present Service.

Sir Henry Mildmay brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinances for Two thousand Pounds out of the Excise, and for One thousand Pounds out of Haberdashers-Hall, for my Lord General's Foot.

An Ordinance for reimbursing the Commissioners of Excise Five hundred Pounds, advanced and paid by them to Serjeant-Major-General Skippon, upon Account, to be deducted out of the Arrears due unto him, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence: And was carried up by Mr. Nicoll.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Scawen hath the Chair; to consider of appointing a Cheque for the Monies that come in upon the Ordinance for maintaining the Forces under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Scawen hath the Chair; to consider of some effectual Course to be held for the Prevention of the Buying of Horses of Soldiers, which are marked with the State's Mark, by laying some effectual Penalty upon the Buyers.

Ordered, That the Petitions of the Apothecaries and Surgeons be referred to the Consideration of the Committee where Mr. Scawen hath the Chair.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have returned this Ordinance; it is for some additional Powers to Sir Thomas Fairfax: And do agree unto it, with some Amendments; which they have sent down herewith.

They have likewise received a Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, directed to both Houses, full of Respects; which they desire may be taken into Consideration; and that they may have their Desires granted.

The Amendments to the Ordinance were read; and the Letter from the Parliament of Scotland.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the Ordinance for giving additional Power to Sir Thomas Fairfax, as it went from hence, as .. the First, Second, and Third Alterations.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Lords in the Fourth and Fifth Alterations.

Sir John Eveling, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Stroade, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Henry Hepman, Sir Arthur Heselridge, Mr. Sollicitor;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are appointed to prepare Reasons for adhering to the Ordinance for giving additional Powers to Sir Thomas Fairfax, as it went from hence, as to the First, Second, and Third Amendments, sent from the Lords: And Sir John Eveling is to take care of this Business.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Fairfax be desired to appoint the General Officers of his Army, according to the List agreed upon by this House.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of both Houses, appointed formerly for the Treaty, be desired to bring in the Declaration referred to them to prepare upon the Passages of the Treaty, on Wednesday: And Mr. Crewe do acquaint them with this Order, and take care therein.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Serjeant Whitefeild and Mr. Page;

The Lords do agree to the Ordinance for securing the Eighty thousand Pounds, with such Additions as are contained in the Paper inclosed.

The Alteration was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Answer returned by the First Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the Second Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree in the Alteration made by the Lords to the Ordinance for securing the Eighty thousand Pounds, lent by the City, as is desired.

Ordered, That the Letter from the Parliament of Scotland be taken into Consideration on Thursday Morning next.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Fine of One thousand Pounds from Sir Humphry Foster, for his Delinquency to the Parliament; to be paid in the Manner reported from the Committee: And that an Ordinance be brought in for Discharge of his Delinquency; and for the Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate.

Ordered, That the Report concerning the Garison of Redding be made by Mr. Crew To-morrow Morning, the first Business; and the next, the Report concerning Newcastle; and then the Ordinance concerning Officers.

A List of General Officers necessary to be in the new Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax, presented from the Committee of both Kingdoms, and voted.

President of the Council of War, without Fee.
Adjutants of Horse; Two.
of Foot.
Quartermaster-General of Horse.
Quartermaster-General of Foot.
Scoutmaster-General.
Provost-Marshal-General of Horse.
Provost-Marshal-General of Foot.

Waggonmaster-General to the Army.
Mustermaster-General

Deputies; Two.
Advocate of the Army.
Secretary to the Council of War.
Chaplain.
Physicians; Two.
Apothecary
Surgeon, and One Mate.
Commissary-General for Victuals, and One Deputy.
Commissary of Horse-Provisions.
Markmaster.