Die Jovis, Maii 8, 1645.
Prayers.
According to former Order, the Grand Committee of
the whole House proceeded to the further Consideration of the Business concerning such as are not to be
admitted to the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, upon
Point of Scandal.
Mr. Whittacre called to the Chair.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Mr. Whittacre reports from the Grand Committee:
And, upon Consideration thereof,
It is Resolved, upon the Question, That the Eldership
of every Congregation shall judge Matter of Scandal voted
by this House, being not Capital, upon the Testimony of
Two credible Witnesses.
Resolved, &c. That the Eldership of every Congregation shall minister an Oath to such Witnesses, as shall be
produced before them, for Proof of any Matter of Scandal
voted by this House, being not Capital.
The Question being put, Whether this House should
now desire the Concurrence of the Lords in these Votes;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
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Sir John Hippisley, |
Tellers for the Noe: |
49. |
| Sir Henry Cholmeley, |
With the Noe, |
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Sir Thomas Jervoise, |
Tellers for the Yea: |
39. |
| Mr. Corbett, |
With the Yea, |
So that the Question passed with the Negative.
Mr. Sollicitor reports the Amendments to the Declaration Yesterday re-committed, concerning the Transaction
between the Parliament and the States Ambassadors; and
their Demeanor to the Parliament: The which were read;
and, upon the Question, assented unto. And
It is Ordered, upon the Report, That the Clause concerning the Information, "That, when the Ambassadors
went to Oxon, the Queen, for the most part, prepared their
Audiences with his Majesty; and that they took their Advices from them, How to demean themselves towards the
Parliament;" shall be totally left out.
He further reported a Letter, of March the 26th, 1645,
from the King, from Oxon, to the States-General, sent
to them by their Ambassadors Extraordinary, superscribed,
"To the High and Mighty Lords, Our good Friends
and Allies, the States-General of the United Provinces of
the Low Countries:" Signed, "Your very Loving Friend,
Charles R."
And countersigned, "By His Majesty's Command,
Edw. Nicholas."
Resolved, &c. That this Letter shall be Part of this Declaration.
Resolved, &c. That this Letter shall be sent to the StatesProvincial.
Then the Declaration was intirely put to the Question;
and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent
to the Lords for their Concurrence.
And Mr. Sollicitor is appointed to carry it up.
Resolved, &c. That this Declaration shall be sent to the
States-General, in English and French.
Resolved, &c. That the National League and Covenant,
mentioned in the Declaration, shall be sent, in English
and French.
Resolved, &c. That the Lords be desired, That the
Declaration be so fitted, as to make it proper to be sent to
the States-Provincial.
Ordered, That the Governor of the Company of Merchants-Adventurers in London do take special Care, That
the Solemn League and Covenant of both Kingdoms be
speedily sent over to the Companies of Merchant-Adventurers beyond the Seas: And that the Governors of the said
Companies there do, at the next Court-Day after the Receipt thereof, take care, That the same be taken and subscribed by the several Members of their said Companies:
And that they do certify the Names of such as refuse or
neglect the same to the Governor here; who is to acquaint
the House with their Refusals or Neglects. And Sir
Robert Harley is to acquaint the Governor here with this
Order.
Mr. Green reported the Amendments to the Ordinance
for appointing Agents to reside in Flanders: The which
were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And
the Ordinance, with the Amendments, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be carried to the Lords by Mr.
Green.
Ordered, That the Committee of the Navy do prepare
Instructions for the Agents to be sent into Flanders, and
dispatch them away without further Report to the House;
and advance such reasonable Sums of Money, for the Accommodation of the said Agents, as they shall think fit;
and consider of their future Allowances; and to present
their Opinions to the House.
Ordered, That Mr. Spurstoe do go to the Lord Mayor
of the City of London, from this House; and do desire him
to give Directions for Summoning of a Common-Council
to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon.
Mr. Beddingfeild, Sir John Evelyn junior, Mr. Recorder, Sir John Potts, Sir Wm. Massam, Sir Edward Hungerford, Mr. Ashe;
This Committee is appointed to go from this House to
the Lord Mayor and Common-Council in London, Tomorrow in the Afternoon; and earnestly to press them
presently to lay down the Three Months Assessment, set
upon the City, and due to Sir Thomas Fairfax his Army;
the Necessities of the Army requiring sudden Payment
of it.
Mr. Sollicitor brings Answer, from the Lords, That, as
to the Declaration carried up by him, the Lords will send
Answer by Messengers of their own.
Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer from the Lords,
That to the Two Votes concerning the Government of
the Isle of Ely, they will send Answer by Messengers of
their own.
An Ordinance for punishing, by Martial Law, in the
several Counties, such imprested or listed Soldiers as run
from their Colours, was this Day read the First and Second time.
And the Question being put, For the Commitment;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
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Mr. Holles, |
Tellers for the Noe: |
62. |
| Sir Gilbert Gerard, |
With the Noe, |
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Sir Peter Wentworth, |
Tellers for the Yea: |
35. |
| Mr. Purefoy, |
With the Yea, |
So that the Question passed with the Negative.
And then the Question being put, For the Passing of it;
It passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for
the Army, to consider of some Course for the preventing
the great Mischiefs that happen by the coming away of
Soldiers from their Colours or Conductors.
Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Ellis, Sir Thomas
Widdrington, Mr. Hill, and Mr. Lisle, are added to this
Committee: And they are to bring in their Report Tomorrow Morning.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
Mr. Page;
The Lords desire a Conference, by a Committee of the
whole House, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it
may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Ordinance touching the Business of the Admiralty,
concerning Colonel Tyllyer, and concerning divers Officers
of the late Army, that have been kept long in Restraint.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has considered their Lordships Message; and do
agree to give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Fairfax shall have
Power to receive and dispatch all such Trumpeters, or
other Messengers, as shall come to him, concerning the
Exchange of Prisoners, or concerning any other thing
touching the Army under his Command.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Fairfax shall have
Power to receive Trumpeters, and other Messengers;
and to discharge the Messengers; and to acquaint the
Houses with the Matters of their Messages.
Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of
both Kingdoms to receive and discharge all Trumpeters,
or other Messengers, that shall come from the King's
Quarters to this Town; and to report their Messages to
the Houses; and to discharge the Trumpeters that are
already here; and to take care of defraying the Expence
of the Trumpeters that have been detained here for some
time.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Sir Edw. Aiscough, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Holles, Sir Walter
Erle, are appointed Reporters of the Conference desired
by the Lords.
Ordered, That Mr. Scawen do proceed in his Report
touching the Army To-morrow Morning.
Ordered, That Mr. Holles do make his Report concerning the Supply of those Commands which are vacated
by the late Ordinance, To-morrow Morning.
Ordered, That Sir Anthony Irby do report the Ordinances concerning the Isle of Ely, To-morrow Morning.