House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 7 October 1645

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 7 October 1645', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646, (London, 1802) pp. 298-300. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol4/pp298-300 [accessed 19 March 2024]

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Die Martis, 7 Octobris, 1645.

Prayers.

A Letter from Sir Thomas Fairfax the General, from Warminster, of 30 Sept. 1645, desiring Pay for his Army, was this Day read.

Ordered, That an Ordinance be brought in for the Borrowing of Forty thousand Pounds, upon the Credit of the Excise, for Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army, of the Inhabitants of the Cities of London and Westminster, and within Twenty Miles thereof.

A Letter from Sir John Gell, from Derby, of 4 Octobris 1645, was this Day read; relating, That his Majesty passed by that Garison, within Eight Miles thereof, with some Fifteen hundred fighting Men, most of them Irish.

An Ordinance for Borrowing of Forty thousand Pounds for Supply of Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army, by way of voluntary Loan or Assessments upon the Inhabitants of London and Westminster, or within Twenty Miles thereof, to be secured and repaid upon the Credit of the Excise, with Consideration of Interest, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for Forbearance of the same, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Samuel Browne, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Holles, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Jennor, Mr. Tate, Mr. Lisle, Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Edward Ashe, Mr. Knightley, Lord Fairfax, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Westrowe, Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Bainton, Colonel Thompson, Sir Michael Livesay, Sir Arthur Heselrige, Sir Henry Heyman, Sir Dudley North, Mr. Long, Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Lemman, and the Knights and Burgesses of the Counties within Twenty Miles of London: And all that will come to have Voices: And are to meet this Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer-Chamber: And are to report the same To-morrow Morning.

Colonel Venn gave an Account to the House of his Service, upon the Order of the House, in expediting the Recruits from Reading to Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army; and gave an Account, What Numbers of Recruits were sent from the several Counties and Places appointed to send Recruits, which should have been at the Rendezvous by the Twentieth of September last.

Mr. Scawen further acquainted the House, What the Numbers of imprested Men were, which should have been levied and sent from the said several Counties and Places, for Recruits to Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army; videlicet,
From London, sent up, 57; wanting, 1412.
From London, to have been sent up, 1469.
From Middlesex, sent up, 55; wanting, 45.
From Middlesex, should have been sent up, 100.
From Essex, sent up, 509; wanting, 241.
From Essex, should have been sent up, 750.
From Suffolke, sent up, 152; wanting 698.
From Suffolke, should have been sent up, 750.
From Norfolke, sent up, 457; wanting, 293.
From Norfolke, should have been sent up, 750.
From Norwich, sent up, 50; wanting, 000.
From Norwich, should have been sent up, 50.
From Hertford, sent up, 201; wanting, 49.
From Hertford, should have been sent up, 250.
From Ely, sent up, 49; wanting, 71.
From Ely, should have been sent up, 120.
From Cambridgshire, sent up, 70; wanting, 130.
From Cambridgshire, should have been sent up, 200.
From Huntingtonshire, sent up, 56; wanting, 44.
From Huntingtonshire, should have been sent up, 100.
From Surrey, sent up, 155; wanting, 95.
From Surrey, should have been sent up, 250.
From Sussex, sent up, 269; wanting, 131.
From Sussex, should have been sent up, 400.
From Bedfordshire, sent up, 000; wanting, 300.
From Bedfordshire, should have been sent up, 300.

Ordered, That the several Counties and Places mentioned in this Report, except Kent, do forthwith send up the several Recruits mentioned in the said Report; which, according to the Proportions already set, are to be levied by them, for Recruiting of Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army, and are yet wanting, to the Rendesvous formerly appointed for them: And the several Committees of the Counties and Places are, from this House, injoined to put this Order in speedy Execution: And the Committee of the Army are to take an Account hereof; and to report the Defects or Failings (if any be) to the House.

An Ordinance for Securing and Repayment, unto the Commissioners of Excise, Ten thousand Pounds, advanced and lent by them, together with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for the Forbearance thereof, being Part of the Fifty thousand Pounds, charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, for the Service of the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence: And carried up by Sir Robert Harley.

An Ordinance for the Securing and Repaying of Five hundred Pounds, out of the Receipts of the Excise, being Part of Five thousand Pounds, charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, for the Allowance of Two hundred Pounds per Week for Maintenance of the Garison of Portesmouth, and Southsea-Castle, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That the County of Kent do forthwith raise, and send to the Rendesvous formerly appointed, Three hundred Recruits for Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army; the House allowing the Men of Colonel Birche's Regiment to be in lieu of the rest of the Recruits charged upon that County.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Army, to consider of, and determine (if possible) the Differences that are between the City of London, and between the Borough of Southwark, City of Westminster, and Hamlets, and Lines of Communication, touching the Proportions of Monies and Men, which, upon all Occasions, they hold with the City of London: This Reference to be no Prejudice to the Raising of their Proportions for Recruits already set.

A Letter from Lieutenant-General Cromwell, from Winton, of Octobris 6 1645, relating the Taking in and Reducing of Winton, with the Castle, to the Obedience of the Parliament; with the Articles of the Surrender, and a List of the Provisions found in the * * * *.

The House being informed Mr. Peters was at the Door;

He was called in; and related to the House the Manner of Taking in of Winton-Castle, and the Wants of the Army, both of Money and Recruits; and desired, from the Army, in the Name of all the Commanders, That godly and orthodoxDivines might be sent down into such Places as are or should be reduced to the Obedience of the Parliament.

Ordered, That it . . referred to Mr. Maynard, Mr. Hill, and Mr. Pury, to consider of the Ordinance for punishing of such imprested Men as are pressed in the several Counties, and run, either from their Conductors, or after from their Colours; and so to remedy the Obstructions, as to make it effectual, to the Purposes intended.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Army, to consider of some other Expedient or Means for Providing of present Monies to be forthwith sent to Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of plundered Ministers, to consider of, and send down, godly, pious, and orthodox Divines, unto such Garisons and Counties as are or shall be reduced to the Obedience of the Parliament.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army do pay unto Lieutenant-General Cromwell's Secretary, who brought the good News of the Reducing and Taking in of the City and Castle of Winton, the Sum of Fifty Pounds for his Pains.

Sir Wm. Strickland went up to the Lords, upon the Message he was appointed to go on on Saturday last.

He likewise carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for Charging and Paying of Five thousand Pounds, out of the Receipts of the Excise, for the Forces under Colonel-General Pointz: The Vote for the Committee of Lords and Commons for Irish Affairs, to grant Commissions for the Service of Ireland: The Vote for Alexander Thistlethwayte Esquire to be High-Sheriff of the County of Wiltes: And was to put the Lords in mind of the Ordinance for Sale of Delinquents Estates.

Sir Wm. Strickland brings Answer from the Lords, That, as to the Impeachment of the Earl of Stamford, and the Ordinance for the Sale of Delinquents Estates, they will take them into a present Consideration; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own: And, as . . the rest, they do agree.

Ordered, That, on Thursday next, in the Afternoon, the House do sit, to read and consider of private and publick Ordinances.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Vane junior, Mr. Lisle, Sir John Evelyn of Wilt', Colonel Purefoy, Sir Henry Heyman, Mr. Gourdon, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Trenchard, Alderman Soame, Mr. Blakiston, Mr. Lane, Mr. Jesson, Mr. Lowrey, Mr. Scawen, Sir Wm. Constable, be added to the Committee for Privileges.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Bailiffs and Burgesses of the Town of Cockermouth be referred to the Committee for Privileges.

Ordered, That Mr. John Ash do bring in the Establishment for Bristoll, Bath, and Barkley-Castle, on Saturday Morning next.

An Ordinance for the better Enabling of the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, and the Sub-Committees of Westminster, Southwork, and Hamlets of the Tower, and of the Deputy-Lieutenants in several Parts of the Kingdom, to imprest, for the Service of the Parliament, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, passed.

Ordinance for appointing the Sub-Commissioners of Excise, at Southampton, to pay what Monies they shall receive for Excise in the said Town, and County thereof, and the Division of Fowley there, according to the Directions in the Ordinance of 22 Novembris 1643, was this Day read the First time.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Exchange of Captain Fox and Lieutenant Purefoy, now Prisoners to the Enemy in Dudley-Castle, for Major Heveningham, now Prisoner to the Parliament in EccleshallCastle.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to return you this Ordinance: It is for Settling of Eight thousand Pounds per Annum upon the Prince Elector, for his present Maintenance: It moved first from this House; and the Lords do agree to it, with these Amendments; to which they desire your Concurrence: An Order for the Earl of Northumberland may place a Governor in Cockermouth, in case the Parliament shall think sit to put in a Garison there: They have appointed to meet To-morrow at Ten of Clock in the Forenoon, at a Conference, in the Painted Chamber, by a Committee of their House, concerning the Earl of Stamford; if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.

The Amendments to the Ordinance concerning the Prince Elector were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

The Order concerning the placing a Governor in Cockermouth was read; and was in bæc verba; "That if it shall be found fitting to put a Garison into the Earl of Northumberland's House in Cumberland, called Cockermouth-Castle, in respect of the great Prejudice he hath received by the Garison of Wresee-Castle and Warkworth; It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Earl of Northumberland may now have the Nomination of one to command in the said Castle;" and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee that brought in the Ordinance for the Prince Elector, to consider of a convenient House sit for his Highness to live in; and to report the same to the House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered your Message; and, as to the Ordinance for the Prince Elector, and the Order for the Placing of a Governor in Cockermouth, they do agree; and also to the Conference To-morrow at Ten of the Clock.