House of Commons Journal Volume 4
3 January 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 3 January 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 394-396. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23586 Date accessed: 16 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Sabbati, 3 Januarii, 1645.

Prayers.

THE Grand Committee of the House met, to take into Consideration the Business of Propositions to be sent to his Majesty, for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

Sir Thomas Widdrington in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Upon Sir Thomas Widdrington's Report from the Grand Committee;

It is Resolved, &c. That the Twelfth, now Thirteenth, Proposition shall stand thus; viz. "That an Act be passed in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms, respectively, for Confirmation of the Treaties passed betwixt the Two Kingdoms; viz. the large Treaty, the late Treaty for the Coming of the Scotts Army into England, and the Settling of the Garison of Berwick, of the Nine-and-twentieth of November 1643; and the Treaty concerning Ireland, of the Sixth of August 1642, for the bringing of Ten thousand Scotts into the Province of Ulster in Ireland; with all other Ordinances and Proceedings passed betwixt the Two Kingdoms, and whereunto they are obliged by the aforesaid Treaties."

Resolved, &c. That the Thirteenth, now Fourteenth, Proposition shall stand thus; viz. "That an Act of Parliament be passed, to declare and make void the Cessation of Ireland, and all Treaties, and Conclusions of Peace, or any Articles thereupon, with the Rebels, without Consent of both Houses of Parliament; and to settle the Prosecution of the War of Ireland in both Houses of the Parliament of England, to be managed by them; and the King to assist, and to do no Act to discountenance or molest them therein: And that the King do give his Royal Assent to such Bill or Bills, as shall be passed by both Houses of the Parliament of England, for the Establishment of the true Reformed Protestant Religion throughout the whole Kingdom of Ireland, and the utter Abolition of Popery there: And that the Chief Governor or Governors of Ireland shall not obey or proceed according to any other Orders, Commissions, Directions, or Instructions, than such as shall be, from time to time, assented unto by both the Houses of the Parliament of England."

Ordered, &c. That all the Propositions passed this House be prepared and delivered unto the Lords, at a Conference, on Monday Morning next.

Ordered, &c. That, on Tuesday next, Mr. Corbett do make Report of the Proposition concerning the Militia of London, and the Suburbs: And that then Mr. Reynolds do report the Bill for Extirpation of Popery out of the Kingdom of Ireland.

Ordered, &c. That, on Monday next, a Conference be desired with the Lords, touching the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace: And that Sir Thomas Widdrington and Mr. Reynolds do manage the said Conference: And that Sir Robert Pye do desire this Conference.

Sir Robert Harley carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Orders for a Day of Humiliation on Wednesday Sevennight; and for Mr. Whittacre and Mr. Marshall to preach that Day: The Order for Two hundred Pounds for Colonel Thompson, out of the Sequestrations of Bedfordshire: The Order for One hundred and Fifty Pounds to be allowed out of the Lands of the Dean and Chapter of Yorke, for the Maintenance of a Minister at Hull: And the Vote of the 14 Augusti 1644, for Approving of the Articles upon the Rendition of Wareham.

He was also to acquaint the Lords, That this House had agreed with the Lords in the Ordinance for Mr. Bond to be Master of the Hospital of the Savoy.

Ordered, &c. That the Serjeant at Arms attending this House do give notice to Colonel Longe and Mr. Francis Allen, Two of the Members of this House, to attend the House at the first Sitting on Monday Morning next.

Ordered, &c. That the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall do, out of the Treasury in their Hands, pay the Sum of Two hundred and Forty Pounds unto Mr. Thomas Rands, to be employed for the Pay of the Convoy, and the Waggoners, and for the Hire of the Waggons that are to carry the Ammunition, Match, Bullet, and other Provisions, to the Forces before Newarke.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Letter to his Majesty: They have agreed to it; and desire your Concurrence therein. They commanded us to acquaint you, That they do agree to the Fast on Wednesday Sevennight, to be at Nine of the Clock in the Morning; and the same to be at St. Martin's Church in the Fields. They have sent you these Two Petitions, of Mr. Vaughan and Mr. Jones, for Two Prothonotaries Places; to which they desire your Concurrence:-The Petition of the Inhabitants of Wooburne; which they especially recommend unto you:-An Ordinance for Mr. Gee to be Rector of Eccleston; to which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance concerning Winwick; to which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance for Mr. Paul Latham to be Rector of Standish; to which they desire your Concurrence:-The Petition of divers distressed Irish Women; which is especially recommended. They desire to put the House of Commons in mind of some Particulars, sent formerly from the Lords, which their Lordships received from the Committee of the Admiralty; which are contained in this Paper.

The Letter to be sent the King was read: And

Resolved, &c. That this House will, as to that Letter, send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir Robert Pye went to the Lordss, to desire they would sit awhile.

He carried with him, for their Concurrence, the Vote for Sir Edward Monings Baronet to be High-Sheriff of Kent; and the Vote for Mr. Stronge to be added to the Assembly of Divines.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer from the Lords, That the Lords will sit awhile: And, as to the Votes for the Sheriff of Kent, and for Mr. Stronge to be added to the Assembly of Divines, they do agree.

Sir Philip Stapleton presents, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, a Letter to be sent unto his Majesty, in Answer to the King's Two last Letters of the Twentysixth and Twenty-ninth of December last: The which was read; and, upon the Question, re-committed to the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, with the Addition of Mr. Rouse, Mr. Sallwey, Mr. Gourdon, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Stephens, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Rigby, Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir Henry Mildmay.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Caryll be desired to preach before the Commons House, at St. Margaret's, Westminster, the next Fast-Day, in the place of Mr. Burgesse: And that Mr. Holland do give him notice hereof.

Ordered, &c. That, on Thursday next, the Ordinances, this Day sent from the Lords, be taken into Consideration; and likewise the Petition of the Inhabitants of Little-Chart: The Business concerning Wooburne, and the Ordinance concerning Layton-Buzard, likewise sent from the Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered your Message: And, as for the Time and Place of the Fast, they do concurr: And, as to all the rest of the Particulars of the Message, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir Robert Harley brings Answer from the Lords, That, as to the Vote for a Fast on Wednesday Sevennight, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: And, as to the rest of the Particulars, they do agree.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That they do intend to sit this Afternoon at Five of the Clock; and they desire this House would do the like, if they have any thing to send to them.

Resolved, &c. That this House do sit this Afternoon at Five of the Clock.

Ordered, &c. That the Serjeant at Arms attending this House do provide Torches for the Service of the House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered of your Message; and doth resolve to sit at Five of Clock, as is desired.

Resolved, &c. That this House thinks it unfit to send one and the same Messenger with several Letters to the King; and doth therefore Order, That the Messenger be changed, and some other fit Messenger appointed for the Carrying of this Letter.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Lisle shall now make his Report of the Ordinance concerning Martial Law; notwithstanding former Orders for making Report of the said Ordinance between the Hours of Ten and Twelve.

Mr. Lisle reports the Amendments to the Ordinance concerning Martial Law: The which were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

The Question being then put, Whether it should be ingrossed, or not;

It passed with the Negative:

And then the Question being put, For passing;

It passed with the Affirmative; and was ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Lisle is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Sir John Evelyn reports the Amendments to the Answer to be returned unto his Majesty's Letters of the Twenty-sixth and Twenty-ninth of December last: The which were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto. And then the Answer, so amended, upon the Question, passed; and assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, so amended; and their Concurrence desired therein, so amended.

Sir John Evelyn is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Post Meridiem.

SIR John Evelyn carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Answer to be returned unto his Majesty's Letters of the Twenty-sixth and Twenty-ninth of December last.

Ordered, &c. That the Sum of Five hundred Pounds be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, by Ordinance of the Eleventh September 1643, for the Use of the Garison of Windsour: And that an Ordinance be brought in for the Payment thereof out of the Intervals of the said Receipts, or in Course.

Ordered, &c. That this House doth declare, That the Sum of Five hundred Pounds, Part of the Sum of Two thousand Five hundred Pounds formerly ordered for the Pay of the Reformadoes under the Command of Colonel Sanderson, shall be paid, and ought to be employed for the Pay of Captain Denton and Captain Hanson's Troops, upon Account; and doth order the same accordingly.

Ordered, &c. That Sir Robert Harley do bring in the Ordinance concerning Hereford, and the County of Hereford, on Tuesday Morning next.

Ordered, &c. That Colonel Edward Harley be recommended to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to have some Command or Employment worthy of him in the County of Hereford, for the better Settling of the Affairs of that County.

A Letter from Colonel Morgan, of 30 Decembris 1645, from Gloucester, and a List of divers Prisoners taken at Hereford, was this Day read.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Tompkins, late a Member of this House, and now a Prisoner in the Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, be brought to the Bar on Monday Morning next.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Richard Seabourne be disabled to sit or serve as a Member in this House during this Parliament.

BE it Ordained, and it is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That Colonel Thomas Morgan, Governor of Gloucester, calling unto him Field-Officers, and others, according to the Course of War, shall have Power, and is hereby authorized, to execute Martial Law within the County of Gloucester, and within the City of Gloucester, and County thereof, according to the Articles published, and now used in the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefaxe.

BE it Ordained, and it is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That Colonel John Birch, Governor of Hereford, calling unto him Field-Officers, and others, according to the Course of War, shall have Power, and is hereby authorized, to execute Martial Law within the City and Garison of Hereford, according to the Articles published, and now used, in the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefaxe.

Ordered, &c. That the Bishop of Hereford, Lord Brudnell, all the Knights, Mr. David Jenkins, and Mr. Richard Seabourne, which were taken at Hereford, and are now Prisoners at Gloucester, be forthwith sent up Prisoners, in safe Custody, to the Parliament, by Colonel Thomas Morgan.

Mr. Ashurst reported a Clause, by way of Amendment, instead of another Clause left out, to be added to the Ordinance for the Payment of Two thousand Pounds, the Remainder of Four thousand Pounds, charged by Order of this House, of the Twenty-seventh of February last, for the Use of the Garison of Shrewsbury: Which was this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And then the Ordinance, with the said Amendment, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir John Evelyn brings Answer from the Lords; That the Lords have agreed to the Letter, carried by him to their Lordships, to be sent to the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That they have agreed, that the Letter to be sent to his Majesty be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners by the Members of both Houses of the Committee of both Kingdoms; and that in case they shall agree to it, then that the Committee of both Kingdoms send it forthwith, by a Trumpeter, to his Majesty; And herein their Lordships desire the Concurrence of this House.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That the Letter to be sent to his Majesty be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms; and that in case they shall agree to it, that then the Committee of both Kingdoms send it forthwith, by a Trumpeter, to his Majesty.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered your Message; and do agree with the Lords in their Desire concerning the Letter to be sent to the King.