House of Commons Journal Volume 4
9 January 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 9 January 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 400-401. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23591 Date accessed: 02 August 2014.


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Die Veneris, 9 Januarii, 1645.

Prayers.

REsolved, &c. That Serjeant Birkhead shall, upon the Death of Serjeant Hunt, attend this House; and receive and enjoy all Profits and Advantages thereunto belonging, in as ample Manner as Serjeant Hunt, or any other, hath, or ought to have enjoyed the said Office: And that Mr. Rigby do prepare and bring in an Ordinance, for granting the same to him, accordingly.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Broad and Mr. Vernon, to state the several Cases of the poor Widows and Soldiers Wives, and of the Waggoners, and such as have been employed in the Train of Artillery, and of their Wives and Widows, who do claim any Monies or Pay, as due to their Husbands, for any Service to the Parliament; and to represent their several Cases immediately to the House.

Ordered, That a Warrant shall issue forth, under Mr. Speaker's Hand, directed to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, to issue forth a Writ, under the Great Seal, for the Election of Two Burgesses for the Borough of Great Bedwyn in the County of Wiltes, in the places of Sir Walter Smith and Sir Richard Harding, disabled, by Judgment of this House, to sit or serve as a Member in this present Parliament.

Upon the Report from the Committee for Foreign Affairs, sent from the Lords 26 Decembris 1645, desiring the Concurrence of this House thereunto;

It is Ordered, That the Committee of this House for Powder, Match, and Bullet, do make Payment of Nine hundred Ninety-four Pounds and Twelve Shillings due to David Heempsen and John Simpkinsen, Merchant-Strangers, for Powder furnished by them for the Service of the State, as appears by several Orders directed to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, for present Payment: Which notwithstanding, they are yet unpaid the said Sum, out of the Ordinance of Five thousand Pounds, due the First of July next, appropriate for that Use.

A Letter to be sent to the Committees in the Country, for Sending up of Witnesses against Mr. David Jenkins, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

The Amendments, returned in a Message from the Lords, to the Ordinance for taxing Glamorganshire, and other Counties in Wales, were this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have returned this Ordinance, for the Treasurers at Wars: It moved first from this House; and the Lords do agree to it; with these Amendments, to which they desire your Concurrence. They desire your Concurrence likewise in the Making of a Sheriff for Cumberland. They commanded us to put you in mind of an Order concerning Sir Trevour Williams and Mr. Morgan; and of the Ordinance concerning Mr. Mortimer: Which they desire may be expedited.

The Lords Amendments to the Ordinance for continuing the Committee for the Army, and Treasurers at Wars, were this Day read: And, as to the First, Second, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments, which make the Quorum in the Ordinance to be One Peer, and Two Members of the House of Commons, they do adhere to the Ordinance, as it went from hence: As to the rest, they do agree.

Ordered, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords, concerning the Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Ordinance for continuing the Committee of the Army, and Treasurers at Wars: And are to prepare Reasons, Why this House cannot agree to those Amendments which make the Quorum.

Mr. Scawen, Mr. Pury, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Recorder, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered your Message: And, as to all the Particulars thereof, will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Speaker, according to former Order, told Sir Henry Vane, That the House had taken notice of his great Service done to the Parliament, in his late Employment in Scotland: And doth give you Thanks for it.

Ordered, &c. That the Business concerning Ireland be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning: And that Mr. Speaker do put the House in mind hereof.

The House being acquainted, That divers of the Common-Council of the City of London were at the Door;

They were called in: And Mr. Alderman Fowke, in the Name of the City, for the better enabling them to pay their Arrears due for the Fortifications; and to maintain their Guards for the Security of the Parliament, and of the City, and whole Kingdom; did desire, That Twenty thousand Pounds may be charged upon the Excise, in Course, and Two thousand Pounds per mensem, for Six Months, upon the said Receipts, or out of any Treasure; or, if that be not convenient, That then the whole Thirty-two thousand Pounds may be charged upon the Excise, in Course, with Interest, to be employed for the Purposes aforesaid.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Thirty-two thousand Pounds, together with Interest for the same, be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, by Ordinance of 11 Septembris 1643, in Course, after other Sums already ordered to be charged upon the said Receipts for the Use of the Army, are first satisfied; and shall be employed for the Use of the City of London: And that an Ordinance be brought in, for the Payment of the same, accordingly.

Sir Henry Mildemay went to the Lords to desire a Conference, concerning the Rules and Directions to be observed by such as come in to the Parliament; and upon the Alterations to the Ordinance for the Continuance of the Treasurers at War: And

Brings Answer, That, as to the Granting of a present Conference, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir Henry Mildemay went to the Lords, to acquaint them, That, by reason of some important Business Yesterday, this House could not meet the Lords at the Conference: But they are ready to give them a Conference upon these Particulars, when the Lords shall desire it.

Ordered, &c. That the Lord President of Munster do give an Account to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Irish Affairs, of the State of the Kingdom of Ireland, and the Occasion of his coming over.

That the Houses do agree unto the last Alteration of the Scotts Commissioners in the Letter to be sent to the King, with the Addition of these Words, "being assented unto by your Majesty."

And then the Alteration will run thus; "Which, being assented unto by your Majesty, we conceive will be the only Way whereby your Majesty can give Satisfaction and Security to your Kingdoms."

And it is referred to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to communicate This to the Scotts Commissioners; and to confer with them thereupon; and to offer them Reasons for their assenting to this Alteration: And, if they shall assent unto the Letter, so altered, that then they send it away, accordingly, as was formerly appointed: And if they shall not assent unto it, that then they shall have Power to alter the whole last Part of the Letter; and to advise with the Scotts Commissioners thereupon; and to report it to the House.

An humble Petition of the Gentlemen and Freeholders of the County of Somersett was this Day delivered in to the House, concerning the Election of their Knights of the Shire. And, in regard the House had received former Petitions of the like Nature, nothing was done upon it.

Reasons to be given, Why this House cannot agree to the Amendments, from the Lords, to the Ordinance for Continuance of the Treasurers of the Army, were read; and assented unto.

Mr. Browne carried to the Lords the Order concerning the Reference to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, touching the Letter to be sent to his Majesty.

Ordered, &c. That the Letters and Papers from the Commissioners at Newarke be read To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the Northern Association, to consider, What is fit to be offered to the Consideration of the House, for the Good and Safety of those Counties; and to propound it to the House: And that the Members of the Counties within that Association, that are come into the House upon late Elections, be added to this Committee.

Mr. Samuel Browne brings Answer from the Lords, That they do agree fully and in every Particular, with this House, concerning the Papers from the Scotts Commissioners, touching the Answer to be returned to the King's Letter; and for referring the said Answer and Paper to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Ordered, &c. That Sir Henry Vane be heard to make his Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, the first Business, To-morrow Morning.

Sir Henry Mildmay brings Answer from the Lords, That they are ready for a Conference, touching the Business for which the Conference was appointed Yesterday.

Several Letters from Tiverton, of the Fourth and Fifth of this instant January; with a Copy of a Proclamation set forth by the Prince of Wales; were this Day read.

Ordered, &c. That, on Tuesday next, the House take into Consideration the Business of the Prince's being in the Head of an Army against the Parliament.

Ordered, &c. That the Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning Hurst-Castle, be reported To-morrow Morning, the Second Business.

Ordered, &c. That Leave be given to Mr. Hallowes, a Member of this House, and the rest of the Members of that County, to be examined at the Committee of Examinations, in the Cause concerning Sir John Gell.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Heath and Mr. Page;

The Lords are willing, that at this Conference, if this House see Cause, the Particulars for which a Conference was this Day desired, may be imparted.

An Ordinance for the Payment of Five hundred Pounds, out of the Receipts of the Excise, unto Mr. John Whitchcote, the Governor of Windsor, for the Use of the said Garison, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Ordinance: It is to prevent Suits against such as come in to the Parliament: To which they desire your Concurrence:-A Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms; with a Letter from Colonel Dalbyer: Which they desire you to take into your serious and speedy Consideration:-A Petition from divers Hertforshire Gentlemen; and an Order to make Colonel Harley General of the Horse for that Shire, and Radnorshire: To which they desire your Concurrence. - The Lords understand, that the Lady Marquisse of Winchester is restrained by the Committee of Examinations: And they have commanded us to let you know, That, besides that she is a Peeress of this Realm, she had a Pass to come to this Town, from the Lords: And they have now thought fit to commit her to the Gentleman-Usher of their House; and desire she may be delivered to him, accordingly: - The Petition of Widow Gardner; and the Petition of Major Christo. Mathewes; both which they refer to your Consideration.

Ordered, &c. That the several Particulars of this Message be taken into Consideration on Tuesday next.

The First Messengers were called in: And the House returned this Answer; That this House doth agree, that those Things for which a Conference was this Day desired, may be imparted at this Conference.

Ordered, &c. That the Examination of the Information of the Business this Day given to the House, concerning some Design against the Parliament, be referred to the Committee for Whitehall.

The Second Messengers were called in: And the House returned this Answer; That they had taken the Particulars of their Message into Consideration; and will send Answer to them, by Messengers of their own.