House of Commons Journal Volume 4
9 February 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 9 February 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 432-435. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23615 Date accessed: 19 September 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 9 Februarii, 1645.

Prayers.

ORdered, That the Committee, formerly appointed to examine Mr. Musgrave, shall have Power to send for the said Mr. Musgrave, a Prisoner by Commitment of this House, for his Contempt, in refusing to answer at all such times as they shall have Occasion to examine him.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, for issuing a Writ for the Election of a Burgess to serve for the Borough of Dartmouth, in the room of Mr. Roger Mathewes, formerly chosen to serve for that Borough, and since disabled.

Upon Sir Robert Harley's Report, from the Committee of Privileges, of the Case concerning the Return of a Burgess to serve for the Borough of East-Greensted;

It is Resolved, &c. That the Election of Mr. Cole to be Bailiff of Est-Grinsteed in the County of Sussex is not good.

Resolved, &c. That the Return, by Mr. Cole, of Mr. Robert Pickering to be Burgess for East-Grinsteed, is void; and ought to be taken off the File.

Resolved, &c. That the Return of Mr. Bowyer, Bailiff of Est-Grinsteed, of John Baker Esquire to serve as a Burgess for that Borough, is a good Return.

Resolved, &c. That the Exceptions, presented to the Committee of Privileges against Mr. Robert Pickering, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Examinations; to proceed in the Examination thereof; and to report the whole Matter, and their Opinions upon it, to the House.

In pursuance of former Orders and Declarations of this House, for the free Discharge of the Wardships of the Heirs of such Persons, as shall happen to die, either in the military Service of the Parliament, or in their immediate Service elsewhere abroad;

It is Ordered, That William Wray Esquire, Son and Heir of Sir Christopher Wray Knight, deceased; who, having formerly had a Command of a Troop of Horse, was now, at the Time of his Death, one of the Commissioners appointed to reside in the Scotts Army before Newarke, from whence he was lately sent up to the Parliament, and was to return speedily again, had he not been prevented by Death, shall be freed and discharged of Wardship, and of and from all Fine and Composition for the same: And that an Ordinance be brought in for the Discharge thereof; and to authorize the Master and Council of the Court of Wards and Liveries to discharge the same, upon a Bill or Information to be exhibited there, setting forth the Premises; and likewise to grant the said Wardship to the Use of the said William Wray accordingly: And Sir Henry Vane junior, and Mr. Ellis, are to bring in this Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Words "or Bills" be added to the Order of 16 Decembris 1645, for the Discharge of the Wardships of such as have died in the Service of the Parliament.

In pursuance of former Orders and Declarations of this House, for the free Discharge of the Wardships of the Heirs of such Persons as shall happen to die, either in the military Service of the Parliament, or in their immediate Service elsewhere abroad;

It is Ordered, That William Oldfield Esquire, Son and Heir of Sir Samuel Oldfield Knight, deceased (who, being employed in the Service of the Parliament, for the Defence of the Town of Kingston upon Hull, died in that Service), shall be freed and discharged of Wardship, and of and from all Fine and Composition for the same: And that an Ordinance be brought in for the Discharge thereof; and to authorize the Master and Council of the Court of Wards and Liveries to discharge the same, upon a Bill or Information to be exhibited in the said Court, setting forth the Premises; and likewise to grant the said Wardship to the Use of the said William Oldfield accordingly: And Mr. John Goodwyn and Mr. Ellys are to bring in this Ordinance.

Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, the first Business, the Business concerning the Election and Return of Knights to serve for the County of Bucks be taken into Consideration.

Ordered, That, on Friday Morning next, the first Business after Mr. Speaker comes to the Chair, the Report from the Committee of Excise be made, concerning the whole State thereof.

Mr. Holles reports a Lift of the present Strength of Horse and Foot in the Province of Munster in Ireland, as appears by the Muster-Roll given in by the Lord President; viz. Horse, Eight hundred Forty-eight; Foot, Four thousand Three hundred Thirteen: The Pay of this present Strength of Horse and Foot, by the Establishment of Ireland, is Four hundred Twenty-nine Pounds Thirteen Shillings and Eight-pence per diem; per mensem, Twelve thousand Thirty-one Pounds Two Shillings and Eight-pence.

He further reported, a Lift of such Horse and Foot as are already designed and ordered for the Province of Munster, though not yet gone over; viz. Colonel Jeptson's Regiment of Horse, Officers and Troopers, Five hundred Seventy; Colonel Sterling's Regiment of Foot, in Ten Companies, Officers and common Soldiers, One thousand One hundred and Seven: The Pay of the Horse and Foot thus designed, and already ordered, per diem, One hundred Thirty-seven Pounds Twelve Shillings Sixpence; per mensem, Three thousand Eight hundred Fiftythree Pounds Ten Shillings.

He further reported, a List of such Horse and Foot as are desired by the Lord President of Munster, to be added to those already in that Province; and those that are designed, and not carried over; viz. Five hundred Horse in a Regiment, Two thousand Foot for Recruits: The Pay of these Horse and Foot desired, maketh, per diem, One hundred Fifty-one Pounds Nine Shillings Six-pence; per mensem, Four thousand Two hundred Forty-one Pounds Six Shillings.

He further reported, a Note of the Charge estimated for raising the additional Forces for Munster, now desired, and for some Necessaries, amounting to Twenty-seven thousand Two hundred and Fifty Pounds, besides Two hundred Barrels of Powder, with Match and Bullet proportionable, Artillery for Field-Service, and One hundred Carriages at the least.

There is further desired, an Assignation of constant Pay, in Money, for the above-mentioned Forces, and those that are already there, and are desired for that Province, at the Rate of Two thousand Pounds per Week.

He further reported, a Relation, delivered in to that Committee, in pursuance of an Order of this House by the Lord Inchiquin, Lord President of Munster, of the past Condition, and present State, of the Province of Munster; and the Lord President's Desires for the future Relief and Support thereof.

Ulster. He further reported, a List of the present Strength of Horse and Foot in the Provinces of Ulster and Connaght, as they have been given in by the Gentlemen of those Provinces; viz. British Troops of Horse in Ulster, Officers and Troopers, in Seventeen Troops, One thousand Fifty-four; British Regiments of Foot, in toto, Officers and Foot, in Ten Regiments, Eight thousand Five hundred Seventy: In Connaght, Horse, Officers, and Troopers, in Four Troops, Two hundred Eighty-eight; Foot, in Connaght, Officers and common Soldiers, Two thousand Four hundred Sixtyfour. In both Provinces, Total of Horse, One thousand Three hundred Forty-two. Total of the Foot, Eleven thousand Thirty-four. Total of Horse and Foot, Twelve thousand Three hundred Seventy-six. The Pay of this present Strength of Horse and Foot in these Two Provinces, by the Establishment of Ireland, is, per diem, Seven hundred Sixty-one Pounds Eighteen Shillings and Eight-pence; per mensem, Twenty thousand Three hundred Thirty-four Pounds Two Shillings and Eight-pence.

He likewise reported, a List of such Horse and Foot as are desired by the Gentlemen of Ulster and Connaght, to be added to those already in those Provinces; viz. Horse-Recruits for the Seventeen Troops, at the Proportion of Twenty Horse for each Troop, which will require Three hundred Forty Horse: Addition is likewise desired, for those Provinces, of One thousand Horse in Two Regiments. Horse, in toto, One thousand Three hundred and Forty. Addition of Foot for these Two Provinces, Three thousand Foot for Recruits. The Pay of these additional Forces of Horse and Foot, in these Two Provinces, will be, per diem, Three hundred Three Pounds Twelve Shillings Four-pence; per mensem, Eight thousand Five hundred One Pounds Five Shillings Fourpence.

He likewise reported the full Pay of all the Forces in the Provinces of Munster, Ulster, and Connaght, as they are at present, as additional Strength is already designed, and as further Supplies of Strength are desired; with their respective Charge of Pay, and per diem, per mensem. Total of Horse and Foot for Munster, Nine thousand Four hundred and Eight Men; their Pay, Seven hundred Eighteen Pounds Fifteen Shillings and Eight-pence per diem; Twenty thousand One hundred Twenty-five Pounds Eighteen Shillings and Eight-pence per mensem. Total of Horse and Foot for Ulster and Connaght, Sixteen thousand Seven hundred Sixteen Men; their Pay, per diem, One thousand Sixty-five Pounds Eleven Shillings; per mensem, Twenty-eight thousand Eight hundred Thirty-five Pounds Eight Shillings, Total of the Horse and Foot, in all the Provinces, Twenty-six thousand One hundred Twenty-four Men; their Pay, per diem, One thousand Seven hundred Eighty-four Pounds Six Shillings and Eight-pence; per mensem, Forty-eight thousand Nine hundred Sixty-one Pounds Six Shillings and Eight-pence; pro sex mensibus, Two hundred Ninety-three thousand Seven hundred and Sixty-eight Pounds.

He then reported a Note, of what Monies and Provisions have been applied to the Forces in Munster, since July One thousand Six hundred Forty-four, when they declared last for the Parliament; viz. The Total, Seventy-five thousand Seven hundred Eleven Pounds Sixteen Shillings and One Peny: A Note of what Monies and Provisions have been applied to the Forces in Ulster, since August One thousand Six hundred Forty-four; viz. The Total, Fifty-four thousand Eight hundred Sixty-seven Pounds and Twelve Shillings: A like Note for Connaght; viz. The Total, Twelve thousand Two hundred Twenty-eight Pounds Six Shillings and Eight-pence.

He then reported an Account, how the Monies to be raised by the Ordinance of Parliament, of the Fifteenth of August last, by the Assessment for Ireland, are disposed of, by way of Anticipation, for the Supply of the Forces in the several Provinces, and carrying on the War from that time; viz. The Total, Thirty-seven thousand Six hundred Sixty-nine Pounds and Four Shillings.

Whereof, out of this Ordinance, £ £ s. d.
To the Province of Munster, 27850 37669 4 0
To the Province of Ulster, 7100
To the Province of Connaght, 500
For Occasions here at home, 219 4 0

All which Monies being taken up, in Expectation of Repayments from the Ordinance of the Fifteenth of August 1645, are already applied for the Services mentioned in those Orders, except the Six thousand Nine hundred Pounds for the Committee to carry to the Army in Munster; and the One thousand Eight hundred and Fifty Pounds for the Committees Allowances, and the Allowances of the Chaplain, Secretary, and Mustermaster; which had also been disposed of, if the Money could have been borrowed upon the Credit of that Ordinance.

The House being informed. That the Lord Inchiquin, Lord President of the Province of Munster; was at the Door;

He was called in; and had a Chair brought in, set with the Back of the Chair even with the Post whereon the Bar useth to lie. And Mr. Speaker acquainted him, That the House, being informed of his being in the Town, and that he did attend the House, were desirous he should come in. He further acquainted him, That the House had heard much of his gallant Actions in Ireland, and of his Faithfulness in his later Services; and likewise of those great Streights he had been in, when that Kingdom was generally revolted from the Parliament, at which time nevertheless he had appeared for them; and that, for his good Service herein, the House did give him Thanks.

Mr. Speaker further acquainted him, That the House had been informed, He had something to impart to them; and that they were willing to hear him therein.

The Lord Inchiquin made Answer, That he did account it a very great Happiness, that this House did make such an Interpretation of his mean Endeavours to serve them: And, as touching the present Condition of Ireland, That although Provisions and Supplies were in preparing here, yet the Seasonableness of the Sending of those Supplies was as much, as the Supplies themselves: And that, for Munster, he did believe, that, at present, there was not, in those Garisons, above Eight Days Provisions: And, that the Garisons there, except Youghall, may be so blocked up, that Provisions cannot come to them without an Army for Convoy: And that therefore, because it may be long ere the whole Provisions for that Province can be ready, such as are in a Readiness, and can be speedily provided, may be sent away to them; otherwise, That which may be now easily preserved, will not, if it be neglected, be regained without much Expence and Blood. He further made it his particular Suit, That those Petitions and Reports, which concern the Officers in Ireland, may be heard at the best Conveniency of the House.

The Lord Inchiquin withdrew; and was again called in: And Mr. Speaker, by Command of the House, desired him to sit down; and acquainted him, That the House had heard what Information he had given them concerning Ireland, and what the Necessities were of speedy Supplies there: That the House had this Morning heard the Reports concerning Ireland; and have resolved to take the Condition of that Kingdom into speedy Consideration; and did dispense with his further Attendance on the House, for the present.

Ordered, That the Committee, appointed to examine Mr. William Murray, do go this Afternoon to the Tower; to examine him: And that the Letters from Mr. Robert Wright, from Paris, be delivered to the said Committee.

An Order of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, of Wednesday, Januarii 17 1645, was this Day read; recommending it to all well-affected Persons, within the Lines of Communication, to contribute their Benevolence for the Raising of a Party or Troop of Horse to be transported into Munster, under the Command of Cornet John Love, Cornet of the Lord President's of Munster's Troop.

Resolved, &c. That no Person or Persons whatsoever, shall grant any Brief or Warrant for any Collection without the Directions and Authority of Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That Three Months Provisions of Victual, Cloaths, and Ammunition, be forthwith provided, and sent over into Munster in Ireland, for Supply and Support of the Forces there.

Resolved, &c. That it be recommended to the Committee of the Army, to supply the Province of Munster with Victuals, to be forthwith sent into that Province, to the Value of One thousand Pounds, or thereabouts.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to whom formerly the Lord Lisle, Governor of Ireland, was referred to make his Propositions concerning Ireland, to take the whole Matter of this Report, this Day made by Mr. Holles, into Consideration; and, in the first place, to take into Consideration the Supply of the present Necessities of Munster, in regard the House is informed, that there is very few Days of Subsistence left to the Garisons in that Province: They are further to take into Consideration, the carrying on the whole War of Ireland, for this next Summer; and to bring in the lowest Estimate of the Charge that will be necessary for the Service of those Affairs; and their Opinion of the Way for the Raising of it: And that they do prepare a Report, to be made certainly on Monday next.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of Accompts for the Kingdom, to return to this House the State of the Accompts for the Monies that have been raised and dispended for the Service of Ireland.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Ashburst do bring into this House such Certificates concerning Monies raised and issued for Ireland, as he hath received from any Committees.

Ordered, &c. That, on Monday next, the Reports concerning Ireland be made: And that, for the future, every Monday be appointed to receive and consider of the Reports concerning Ireland.

Ordered, &c. That, To-morrow, Mr. Crew make Report of the Papers from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning the King's Letters.

Ordered, &c. That, on Wednesday next, Mr. Thelloall do make Report of the Business concerning South-Wales.

Ordered, &c. That, To-morrow, the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland do bring in an Ordinance for continuing the Ordinance formerly granted to the Commissioners in Ulster, for Six Months longer.

Ordered, &c. That the Sum of Three hundred Pounds be charged upon the Ordinance for raising Monies for Maintenance of the War in Ireland, and paid unto Andrew Love, Donald Campbell, and James Marshall, in Part of Satisfaction of the Debt due to them from the Parliament, for Provisions delivered by them in Ireland: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Irish Affairs do take care for the speedy Payment thereof. And

It is further Ordered, That the said Parties shall have the Publick Faith for the Remainder of the said Debt, due to them for the said Provisions.

Post Meridiem.

ORdered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of Sequestrations in the County of Middlesex, and the said Committee are hereby authorized, to make a Lease of the House and Land of Mr. George Bynion, now called Sir George Bynion, at Muswell-Hill in the said County, for the Term of Seven Years; the House being informed, that the said House is so much out of Repair, that the yearly Rent of the same, and his other Estate there, will not repair it.

Resolved, &c. That Martin De Lazon be declared to be Proprietor of Six thousand Nine hundred Pieces of Eight, and of Seventy-one Arroanes of Cochineal, which were in the Ship Clare, which arrived at the Port of Southampton about the Month of August 1642: And that it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to bring in an Ordinance to declare the same, and to grant him the Publick Faith, for the Value thereof, accordingly.

Ordered, &c. That the humble Petition of the Fellows of Trinity-Hall in the University of Cambridge be referred to the Committee for the said University of Cambridge: Who are to meet thereupon upon Thursday in the Afternoon; and to consider thereof, and of the Certificate sent therewithal from the Lords; and to report their Opinions, upon the whole Matter, to the House.

Ordered, &c. That the Sub-Committee of the Committee for Excise do sit this Afternoon, notwithstanding the Sitting of the House.

Ordered, &c. That the Ordinance concerning the Settlement of Hereford, and the Affairs of that County, be read on this Day Sevennight in the Afternoon, the first Business.

An Ordinance to charge Five Shillings per Centum upon all Commodities exported out of this Kingdom into France, and Six-pence per Ton upon all Wines of the Growth of France, to be imported into this Kingdom; to be employed for the Freeing of any Seizures of the Goods of the Merchants of this Kingdom, to be made by the French King; was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed to the Committee of the Navy; all the Merchants of the House, and the Burgesses of the Out-Ports, being added to the said Committee, as to this Business.

Ordered, &c. That the Committee of the Tower do presently withdraw, and go to the Tower, to examine Mr. Murray: And that if they do not perfect their Examinations this Afternoon, that then they do meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock.

The humble Petition of the Sub-Committees of the Militia of the Hamlets of the Tower, of Westminster, and of the Borough of Southwark, in the Behalf of Sir James Harrington, to have the Place of Lieutenant of the Ordnance conferred upon him, was this Day read. And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, That they will continue the Place of Lieutenantship of the Ordnance, in the same Way that it is now settled and managed.

Resolved, &c. That the Allowance of Four Pounds per Week, be allowed unto Sir James Harrington, for his present Support, to commence from the First of January 1645: And that this Allowance be charged upon the Receipts of the Committee of Lords and Commons at Haberdashers-Hall.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, &c. That, on Tuesday next come Sevennight, peremptorily, the House do take into Consideration the Repealing of the several Ordinances passed for the constituting the Committee for Advance of Monies, sitting at Haberdashers-Hall; and for repealing all other Ordinances concerning that Committee, and enabling them to the better Performance of that Service: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Ordered, &c. That the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant unto Colonel John Nedham, Governor of Leicester, and so appointed by Sir Thomas Fairefaxe, a Commission for the said Place of Governor: And that they likewise grant a Commission to Owen Cambridge, to be Major to the said Governor.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Speaker do issue forth his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, for issuing a Writ for the Electing of a Burgess to serve for the Town of Plympton in the County of Devon, in the place of Sir Nicolas Slany, formerly elected to serve for that Borough, and since slain in Arms against the Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That Three thousand Pounds be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid in Intervals, or in Course, which shall first happen, after other Monies already charged are first satisfied; to be employed for the Pay of the poor Women that attend at the Door of the House: And that an Ordinance be brought in accordingly, by Mr. Nicholl; whereby the Committee of Accompts are to be enabled to receive and pay the same, in such manner as is directed for One thousand Pounds formerly ordered to be paid to them, for the Trains of Artillery of the Earl of Essex, and Sir Wm. Waller.

Ordered, &c. That Thomas Jenkins, John Simpson, Francis Cooper, and Frances White, Widow of Miles White, Gentleman of the Ordnance, slain at Naseby Fight, shall have their Proportion paid to them by the Committee of Accompts, out of the Three thousand Pounds charged upon the Excise for the Pay of the poor Women and Waggoners.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Lane do make his Report, concerning Colonel Sanderson's Regiment of Reformadoes, To-morrow Morning.

Mr. Lisle reports the Certificate of the Accompts of the Lord Fairefaxe.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Lisle hath the Chair; to consider of, and find out, Lands to the Value of Ten thousand Pounds, to be settled upon the Lord Fairefax and his Heirs.

Ordered, &c. That the Report this Day made by Mr. Lisle, concerning Sir Wm. Waller, be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Sevennight.

An Ordinance for the securing and reimbursing, out of the Receipts of the Excise, One thousand Pounds, to be employed towards the Payment of Colonel Mitton's Regiment, with Consideration of Eight per Centum, for the Forbearance thereof, to such as shall advance the same, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.