House of Commons Journal Volume 4
1 September 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 1 September 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 658-659. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23769 Date accessed: 01 August 2014.


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Die Martis, 1 Septembris, 1646.

Prayers.

THE humble Petition of Sir John Hele Knight was this Day read.

The Question was propounded, Whether this House will accept of Two thousand Pounds, to be paid in Hand by Sir John Hele, in Part of the Fine of Six thousand Pounds set upon him for his Delinquency; and that the other Four thousand Pounds be paid at Two thousand Pounds and Two thousand Pounds, at Three Months and Three Months; and the Sequestration of his Estate taken off, upon the Payment of the First Two thousand Pounds; and his Estate to remain in Security for the Payment of the other Four thousand Pounds at the Times prefixed: That if the said Four thousand Pounds shall not be paid accordingly, that then the said Estate be re-seized and re-sequestred:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And then the Question being put;

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of Two thousand Pounds, to be paid in Hand by Sir John Hele, in Part of the Fine of Six thousand Pounds set upon him for his Delinquency: And that the other Four thousand Pounds be paid at Two thousand Pounds and Two thousand Pounds, at Three Months and Three Months; and the Sequestration of his Estate taken off, upon the Payment of the First Two thousand Pounds; and his Estate to remain in Security for the Payment of the other Four thousand Pounds at the Times prefixed: That, if the said Four thousand Pounds shall not be paid accordingly, that then the said Estate be re-seized and re-sequestred.

Ordered, That the Committee of the West be injoined forthwith to send down the Monies appointed for the sending away Colonel-General Massie's Horse, according to the former Directions and Instructions given to that Committee.

Ordered, That the Ordinances, and whole Business, concerning Trade, and in particular concerning Wool, Woolfells, and Fullers-Earth, be taken into Consideration on Friday come Sevennight, peremptorily.

Upon the humble Desire of the Mayor and Aldermen of the Town of Lyme-Regis in the County of Norfolke, That this House would dispence with the Attendance of Thomas Toll Esquire, a Member of this House, serving as Burgess for the said Town; and that he might have Leave to go down into the Country, being chosen Mayor there: And whereas the said Thomas Toll, being a Member of this House, ought not to have been chosen Mayor without the Leave of this House: Yet, considering the present Condition of that Town, and the Necessity of that Service;

It is Ordered, That the said Mr. Toll shall have Leave to go down into the Country, and to settle the Affairs of the said Town to the best Advantage of the Kingdom; and shall have Liberty to substitute a Deputy in his Absence.

The humble Petition of Edward Scott, of Scottshall in the County of Kent, Esquire, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, referred unto the Consideration and Examination of Sir Henry Cholmeley, Sir Henry Heyman, Mr. Oxenden, Mr. Westrowe, Mr. Stapley, Mr. Lisle, Sir Thomas Wroth, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Boys, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Miles Corbett, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Francis Allen, Sir Thomas Parker, Sir Edward Aiscough, Colonel Venn, Sir Tho. Pelham, Mr. Broxholme, Mr. Bond, Mr. Scott, Mr. Walker, Mr. Sollicitor, Sir Simon D'Ewes, Mr. Gerard, Sir Robert Pye, Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Bossevile, Mr. Robert Goodwyn, Sir John Hippesley, Sir Wm. Playter, Mr. Scawen, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Purefoy, Mr Rich, Mr. Holles, Mr. Anth. Nicoll, Mr. Recorder, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Rous, Mr. Alderman Atkyn, Mr. Henry Martyn, Sir Ralph Ashton, Mr. Heveningham, Mr. Erle, and to the Burgesses for the Counties of Kent and Sussex: Who are to meet upon it in the Duchy-Chamber, To-morrow in the Afternoon at Two of the Clock: And have Power to send for Parties, Papers, Witnesses, Records, &c.; and to report the same with all convenient Speed.

Ordered, That the Report of Mr. Staveley's Business be made at the same time when the Report upon Mr. Edward Scott's Petition shall be made.

Sir Robert Harley carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, an Ordinance for continuing the Committee of Lords and Commons, and Treasurers at Wars, and their Powers, for Six Months longer: An Ordinance for a Pardon to Mr. John Tregonnell, for his Delinquency: An Ordinance for Payment of Five thousand Pounds to Mr. Nathan Wright, out of the Excise: An Ordinance for Mr. Porter to be Judge of the Admiralty in the County of Cornewall: An Order for the Payment of Forty Pounds to Captain Cupid, out of Haberdashers-Hall: An Order for Thirty Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, to the Messenger that brought the News of the Taking of Flynt-Castle.

He was to put the Lords in mind of passing the Ordinance for granting the Moiety of the Excise of the Western Associated Counties to the said Counties; and of passing the Ordinance for granting the Moiety of the Excise of Yorkeshire to the Use of the said County.

Ordered, That, on Thursday come Sevennight, Mr. Sandys do make Report, from the Committee appointed, concerning such Members as hold any Offices, or Places of Profit, &c.

Resolved, &c. That, on this Day Fortnight, the House do take into Consideration the Debate concerning the Disposing of the Great Seal, and the Power of the Chancery: And that Mr. Speaker do put the House in mind hereof: And that no other Business do then intervene.

The Question was propounded, Whether the Great Seal shall be continued in the Hands of the present Commissioners till the Twentieth of December next:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 101.
Sir John Franklyn, With the Noe,
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Tellers for the Yea: 86.
Sir John D'Anvers, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the Great Seal shall be continued in the Hands of the present Commissioners of the Great Seal for One Month longer.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir Robert Harley brings Answer, That, as to the Order for Forty Pounds to Captain Cupid, and the Order for Thirty Pounds for the Messenger from Flynt-Castle, out of Haberdashers-Hall, and the Ordinance for Mr. Porter to be Judge of the Admiralty for Cornewall, they do agree: And, as to the rest of the Particulars of the Message, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the Report concerning Mr. Staveley be made To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Sir Gilbert Gerard reports, from the Commissioners of Scotland, Two Papers: The which were read: The First was in Answer to the Exceptions and Estimate communicated by this House to the Commissioners of Scotland: The Second Paper was in Answer to the Sum of Three hundred thousand Pounds offered by this House: The which was twice read.

The Question was put, That the House do, at this Present, take into Consideration the Matter of the Second Paper, this Day reported from the Scotts Commissioners:

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Arthur Hasilrig, Tellers for the Noe: 106.
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Noe:
Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea, 129.
Sir Phil. Stapilton, With the Yea:

So as the Question passed with the Affirmative.

The Question was propounded, Whether One hundred thousand Pounds more shall be added to the Three hundred thousand Pounds formerly voted to be paid to the Kingdom of Scotland:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And that Question being put;

The House was divided: And

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 140.
Sir Phil. Stapilton, With the Yea,
Sir Arthur Hesilrig, Tellers for the Noe: 101.
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Noe:

So that it is Resolved, &c. That One hundred thousand Pounds more shall be added to the Three hundred thousand Pounds formerly voted to be paid to the Kingdom of Scotland.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, That they do adhere to their former Votes, as to the Time and Manner of the Payment of the Three hundred thousand Pounds formerly voted to be paid to the Kingdom of Scotland.

Resolved, &c. That the Time for the Payment of this last Hundred thousand Pounds, now voted, shall be at the End of Twelve Months, to be accounted from the Time assigned for the Payment of the last Hundred thousand Pounds of the Three hundred thousand Pounds formerly voted.

Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, or any Four of them, do communicate unto the Commissioners of Scotland these Votes, now passed; and desire their Answer; and report it To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That the Second Paper, this Day reported from the Commissioners of Scotland, be taken into further Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Harley do go to the Lords To-morrow, and put them . . mind, and earnestly press them, to pass the Order for the Moiety of the Excise of the Western Counties, for the Maintenance of their Garisons; and likewise to pass the like Order for the Moiety of the Excise for the Northern Association; the Ordinance for the Five thousand Pounds advanced by Mr. Nathan Wright: And is to carry the Vote for the Continuance of the Commissioners of the Great Seal.