House of Commons Journal Volume 4
25 September 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 25 September 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 675-677. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23783 Date accessed: 21 October 2014.


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Die Veneris, 25 Septembris, 1646.

Prayers.

UPON the Report from the Committee of the West, That the Accompts of Colonel Massie's Disbursments for the Service of the West had been examined, reviewed, and allowed, by the said Committee; and that, upon the said Accompts, the Sum of Nine hundred Fortyfour Pounds Six Shillings and Two-pence is due to him;

It is Ordered, That an Ordinance be brought in, for the Payment of the Sum of Nine hundred Forty-four Pounds Six Shillings and Two-pence, with Interest for the same, out of the Receipts of the Excise, in Course, unto Colonel Edward Massie, in Satisfaction of so much Monies disbursed by him for the Service of the Western Association.

An Ordinance for the Payment of the Sum of Nine hundred Forty-four Pounds Six Shillings and Two-pence, with Interest for the same, out of the Receipts of the Excise, in Course, unto Colonel Edward Massie, or his Assigns, in Satisfaction of so much Monies disbursed by him for the Service of the Western Association, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That Colonel Hunt, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Mr. William Stephens, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Mr. Broxholme, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Colonel Ludlowe, a Member of this House, be referred to the Committee of Accompts; to have his Accompts stated and certified.

Upon a Report from the Committee of the West;

The humble Petition of Sir Walter Erle Knight, a Member of this House, was read; and was, for Satisfaction for his Losses, and Payment of Monies disbursed by him, and due to him, for his Entertainment, as Captain of a Troop of Horse, in the Service of the Parliament, and otherwise.

The Report likewise concerning the said Petition was read. And

It is thereupon Ordered, That, out of the first Monies, that shall be raised out of the Fines or Compositions of Sir George Vaughan, and Major John Helliar, the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall do pay unto Sir Walter Erle Knight, a Member of this House, or his Assigns, the Sum of Fifteen hundred Pounds, upon Account, for and towards the Payment and Satisfaction to him of such Monies as have been disbursed by him, and other Charges, for the Service of the Parliament, and Arrears of his Pay: And that the Acquittance or Acquittances of the said Sir Walter Erle, or his Assigns, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Committee, and to the Treasurers there, for the Payment of the said Fifteen hundred Pounds accordingly.

The humble Petition of the Governor and Company of Merchants, trading the Levant Seas, was this Day read; and was, to desire the House, not only to hasten the Dispatches from both Houses; but that their Proceedings may receive a favourable Construction, if they shall endeavour some other Means also for Revocation of Sir Sackvile Crowe from his Agency in Turkey; and nothing done upon it.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Regulation of the University of Oxford be read on this Day Sevennight, the first Business.

An Establishment for the Garison of Wallingford-Castle, agreed on by the Committee of Oxon, Bucks, and Berks, was this Day read; and nothing done upon it.

Ordered, That Wallingford-Castle be supplied and secured with Forces out of the Forces of the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax: And that it be referred to the General, to take Order, that the said Garison be garisoned with convenient Forces accordingly, under the same Governor appointed by this House: And that it be referred to the Committee of the Three Counties of Oxon, Bucks, and Berks, to appoint an Establishment for his personal Entertainment; and to take Order for the Payment thereof, and of the extraordinary Charges incident to the said Garison.

Sir Henry Vane brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Vote concerning the Meeting of the Committee touching the Disposal of the King's Person, as it was returned from this House.

Resolved, &c. That the Business of the Army shall be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning next.

Ordered, That the Ordinance and Establishment for the Garison of Bristoll be read on Tuesday Morning next.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Reformado-Officers, under Colonel Sanderson, be read on Tuesday Morning next.

The Question being put, That, at the Rising of the House this Day, the House shall be adjourned until Tuesday Morning next, at Eight of the Clock;

The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.

Sir John Clotworthy, Tellers for the Yea: 87.
Sir Michael Livesey, With the Yea,
Sir Wm. Allenson, Tellers for the Noe: 73.
Alderman Atkyn, With the Noe,

So as the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Upon Sir John Temple's Report from the Committee of the Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland;

Resolved, &c. That, seeing Forces are immediately to be sent over to the Provinces of Munster and Ulster; and that there are Advertisements given, that the Enemy is withdrawn from those Parts; that Power be granted to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, or such as they shall employ therein, to offer and give Conditions to Towns, Forts, and Persons, as may best conduce for the Good of that Service: This Power to continue for Three Months.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired herein (fn. [a]) .

Resolved, &c. That the Power of the Commissioners in Ulster be continued until the last of November next: And that they may have Power to act alone, in case the Scotts Commissioners shall not join with them.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Knightley is appointed to carry this Vote to the Lords: And likewise the Vote for granting Power to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, or such as they shall appoint, to offer Conditions to Towns, Forts, and Persons.

Sir John Clotworthy reports, from the Committee of Irish Affairs, the humble Petition of the Gentlemen of Ulster and Connaght, and of the Agents from the Brittish Forces there, to the said Committee.

The which was read.

He further reported the Opinion of the said Committee and their Resolutions thereupon. And

It is thereupon Ordered, and Resolved, &c. That Recruits of Foot, not exceeding the Numbers of Four thousand, be forthwith provided and sent for the Regiments and Forces in the Provinces of Munster, Ulster, and Connaght, in such manner as shall be hereafter thought fit: And that it be especially recommended to the Knights and Burgesses of the several Counties and Places of this Kingdom, to use their best Endeavours for the speedy Raising and Sending over of the said Four thousand Foot, for the Recruits of the Forces of the said Three Provinces.

Resolved, &c. That One Month's Pay, in Cloaths, be provided for the Officers and Troopers of the Forces in the Provinces of Ulster and Connaght: And that this Month's Pay be charged upon, and raised out of, the Twenty thousand Pounds per Annum, of excepted Delinquents Estates, appointed by former Order to be sold for the carrying on the War of Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Cottington's Estate shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Capell's Estate shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Worcester's Estate shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Marquis of Winchester's Estate shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Wm. Shelden, of Beely, shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Charles Smyth, of Warwickshire, shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of George Strode shall be sold.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Henry Beddingfield, and of his Son, shall be sold.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Irish Affairs, to prepare, and bring in, an Ordinance for the Selling of the Estates of the several Persons before-mentioned.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army, and the Committee of Irish Affairs, do meet; and consider of, and take care of, the Disposal of such Ammunition, and other Provisions, belonging to the Army, as are at Barnstable, Lyme, and Ragland-Castle, for the Service of Ireland.

Ordered, That the Committee of the West, and the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, do meet; and consider what Ammunitions, and other Provisions, may be spared in any of the Western Garisons, to be disposed and employed for the Service of Ireland.

The Question was put, That this House should agree with the Committee, That Five-and-twenty thousand Pounds be granted, in Course, out of the Receipts of the Excise, and Fifteen thousand Pounds more raised upon the Credit of the Ordinances for the Assessments for Ireland, for the Furnishing of Provisions to the Value of Forty thousand Pounds for the Armies in that Kingdom; and that the said Five-and-twenty thousand Pounds be made good again to the Excise, out of the Sale of the Twenty thousand Pounds per Annum, of excepted Delinquents Estates:

The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 51.
Sir Phil. Stapilton, With the Yea,
Mr. Pierepoint, Tellers for the Noe: 56.
Sir Wm. Armyn, With the Noe,

So as the Question passed with the Negative.

Ordered, That this Proposition be re-committed: And that it be referred to the said Committee, to consider of, and find out, some other fit Way or Means for the speedy Raising of the said Monies, for the Making of the said Provisions; and to report the same to the House.

The Question was propounded, That a General Officer be appointed to take the Charge and Command both of the Forces going over, and of all the Brittish Forces already in Ulster:

The Question was put, That this Question should be now put: And

It passed with the Negative.

The humble Petition of Colonel Leonard Lidcott was this Day read: Also an Order of this House, of 12 Martii 1643, for the Payment of him of Five hundred Pounds, in Part of his Arrears, out of such Estates of Delinquents as he should discover, and should be proved to be Delinquents, before the Committee of Examinations.

It is Ordered, That the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall do pay unto the said Colonel Leonard Lydcott, or his Assigns, the said Sum of Five hundred Pounds, upon Account, in Part of the Payment of the Arrears due to him for his Entertainment in the Service of the Parliament: And that the said Order, of 12 Martii 1643, be revoked, and made void: The said Five hundred Pounds to be paid out of the Receipts at Goldsmiths-Hall aforesaid, in Course, after other Payments, already ordered to be paid by the said Committee, shall be satisfied: And the Acquittance or Acquittances of the said Colonel Leonard Lydcott, or his Assigns, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, and the Treasurers there, for the Payment of the said Five hundred Pounds accordingly.

Ordered, That the Committee for the County of Monmouth, and the Commissioners for the Army, do forthwith make Sale of the Goods, and personal Estate, at Ragland-Castle, belonging to the Earl of Worcester.

The House being informed, That some of the Divines of the Assembly were at the Door;

They were called in: And Dr. Burgesse acquainted the House, That, according to the Order of this House to expedite the Confession of Faith, and send in the same to this House, or so much thereof as was finished, the Assembly had diligently pursued that Order; and had commanded them to deliver in so much thereof, as is already done: Which was Nineteen Heads.

The which he presented to the House: And

It is Ordered, That these Propositions, or Heads, this Day presented from the Assembly of Divines, be read on Friday Morning next, the first Business: And that Mr. Speaker come to the Chair for the Reading of the said Nineteen Propositions.

Whereas, by Order of 4 Novembris 1645, the Sum of Three hundred Pounds was ordered to be paid to Captain Hercules Huncks, out of such Delinquents Estates as he should discover to the Committee at Haberdashers-Hall, not then discovered or sequestred: It is this Day Ordered, That the said Order, of 4 Novembris 1645, be revoked, and made void: And that the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall do pay unto the said Hercules Huncks, or his Assigns, the Sum of Three hundred Pounds, in Course, after all the Sums already charged to be paid out of the Receipts at Goldsmiths-Hall aforesaid shall be first satisfied: And that the Acquittance or Acquittances of the said Hercules Huncks, or his Assigns, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Committee, and the Treasurers there, for the Payment of the said Three hundred Pounds accordingly.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Payment of Fifty-five thousand Pounds, out of the Ordinances for the Assessments for Ireland, for the Payment for Victuals, Cloaths, Arms, Ammunition, and other Provisions for that Kingdom, be read on Tuesday Morning next.

According to the Resolution of the House this Day, the House was adjourned until Tuesday Morning at Eight of the Clock.

Footnotes

[a] In the Margin is wrote, "Vide the Amendment to this Order, and the Order at large, 3 Octobris 1646."