Die Martis, 13 Octobris, 1646.
MR. Lane reports the Amendments to the Ordinance, sent from the Lords, concerning the Great
Seal: The which were twice read.
The Question being put, Whether these Words, "to
be chosen and returned to serve as a Member of the House
of Commons," should be added to the Amendments;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Sir John Hippesley,
||Tellers for the Noe:
||With the Noe,
||Tellers for the Yea:
|Mr. Henry Pelham,
||With the Yea,
So that the Question passed with the Negative.
The Clause concerning the Commissioners of the Great
Seal not to be Assistants, in Parliament, to the House of
Peers, was put to the Question; and, upon the Question,
And then the Amendments were put to the Question;
and, upon the Question, passed.
And then the Ordinance, so amended, passed, upon
the Question: And this House agreed unto the Ordinance,
as it was sent from the Lords, with these Amendments.
Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the
Lords, concerning the Ordinance, formerly sent from the
Lords, for appointing Commissioners for the Custody of
the Great Seal of England.
Sir Robert Pye is .. go to the Lords to desire this
Mr. Lane, Mr. Holles, Sir William Lewes, are appointed Managers.
Ordered, That Mr. Malbone be especially recommended,
from this House, to the Commissioners appointed to have
the Custody of the Great Seal of England, to be continued in the Place of Sealbearer.
Sir Robert Pye went to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted
Chamber, so soon as it might stand with their Lordships
Conveniency, concerning the Ordinance, formerly sent
from the Lords, for appointing Commissioners to have
the Custody of the Great Seal of England.
He carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the
Vote for Mr. Francis Pierpont to be Executor to the Earl
of Kingston: An Ordinance for a Pardon unto Wm. Burges,
Daniel Colwall, and Nicolas Horne, for their Delinquencies:
An Ordinance for a Pardon to Judith Clerke, for her Delinquency: An Ordinance for a Pardon to Mr. Thomas Carewe, for his Delinquency: An Order for appointing Colonel
Rous to be Governor of Silly: An Ordinance for a Pardon
to Mr. George Trevilian, for his Delinquency: An Ordinance for a Pardon to Henry Philpott, and Thomas Philpott,
for their Delinquencies: A Vote for no Committees to grant
any Offices: A Vote for Sir John Clotworthy to be one of the
Commissioners for the Province of Ulster: An Ordinance for
a Pardon to Sir Patricius Curwyn, for his Delinquency:
An Ordinance for a Pardon to Mr. Henry Hunlock, for
his Delinquency: An Ordinance for a Pardon to Mr.
Richard Thompson, for his Delinquency: An Ordinance
for Five hundred Pounds, out of the Excise, to Mr.
Westrowe: An Ordinance for the Payment of the Arrears
of the Garisons of Dover and Chatham: An Ordinance
for a Pardon to Mr. Westlydd, for his Delinquency:
An Order for Twenty Pounds to Two Messengers that
came from Ragland, out of Haberdashers-Hall: The Declaration concerning the Two hundred thousand Pounds to
be advanced upon the Credit of Bishops Lands: An Ordinance for Four hundred Pounds, with Interest, out of
the Excise, for the Relief of poor Irish Protestants: An
Ordinance for granting certain Lands in Reading to Sir
Francis Knollys: And an Order for Payment of Five hundred Pounds to the Officers employed at the Taking of
Mr. Sollicitor carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, an Ordinance for justifying the Proceedings of
Parliament: An Ordinance concerning the Peers of Parliament, and other Honours and Titles: An Ordinance
concerning, the Great Seal of England: An Ordinance concerning the Cessation of Arms in Ireland, and Grants
under the Great Seal of Ireland: And an Ordinance concerning the great Places and Offices in the Kingdoms of
England and Ireland.
The humble Petition of James Northfolke, Serjeant at
Arms, directed to the Lords and Commons, assembled
in Parliament, was this Day read; and ordered to be
taken into Consideration, together with the Petition of
Mr. Serjeant Middleton, on Saturday next.
An Ordinance for the laying an Assessment upon the
Counties of Somersett, Wiltes, and Gloucester, for and towards the Maintenance of the Garison of Bristoll, was this
Day read the First time; and ordered to be read the Second time on Friday Morning next.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of
Gloucester, and the Committee of the West, to consider
how the Garison of Bristoll may be settled; and of an
Establishment for it, at the least Charge to the Commonwealth, and for the best Advancement of Trade.
Mr. Sollicitor brings Answer, That the Lords will send
Answer to the several Ordinances, carried by him to their
Lordships, by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That the Reports concerning the Articles of
Oxford, the Articles of Truro, and other Garisons, be
made upon Friday Morning next, the first Business: And
Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind hereof.
Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That, as to the Declaration concerning the Two hundred thousand Pounds, to
be advanced upon the Credit of the Sale of Bishops
Lands; the Vote for no Committee to grant any Offices;
and the Vote for appointing Sir John Clotworthy to be one
of the Commissioners for the Province of Ulster; they do
agree: And, as to the Granting of a Conference upon the
Ordinance for appointing Commissioners for the Custody
of the Great Seal; and the rest of the Messages carried
by him to their Lordships; they will send Answer by
Messengers of their own.
An Ordinance for the Payment of the Army, under the
Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax Knight, for Six Months,
from the First Day of October 1646, by a monthly Assessment, was this Day read the First and Second time.
A Letter from the Committee of Duresme, of 17
Septembris 1646, read 13 Octobris 1646.
The House being informed, That some Divines of the
Assembly were at the Door;
They were called in: And Mr. Marshall acquainted the
House, That the Assembly having received an Order from
this House, of 9 Octobris 1646, they did humbly return this Answer; and do desire, that they may know
the further Pleasure of this House thereupon.
The Divines being withdrawn, the Answer was read.
Resolved, &c. That Five hundred Copies of the Consession of Faith be forthwith printed, for the Service of
the Houses, without the Annexing of the Texts of Scripture, for the present: Yet, notwithstanding, the House
does expect, that the Divines should send in the Texts of
Scripture with all convenient Speed.
The Divines were again called in: And Mr. Speaker
acquainted them with this Order.
Ordered, That the Ordinance for Maintenance of the
Ministers at Chichester be read the Second time, on Friday
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords have appointed the Conference for the Great
Seal, which you desired, To-morrow Morning at Ten of
the Clock, in the Painted Chamber, by a Committee of
both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency of
this House. They have commanded us to acquaint you,
That they have received Letters from the Lieutenant and
Council of Ireland; and they have referred them, and
the Messengers, to the Members of both Houses that are
of the Committee of both Kingdoms; and they have
appointed their Members to meet this Afternoon at Four
of the Clock; and desire, that you will appoint your
Members to meet then likewise, if it may stand with
your Conveniency: And likewise to put you in mind of
the Lady Marchioness of Winchester's Petition.
Resolved, That this House doth agree, That the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, concerning the Letters from the Lieutenant and Council of
Resolved, &c. That, to the Petition of the Lady Marchioness of Winchester, this House will send Answer by
Messengers of their own.
Answer returned by the same Messengers;
The House has considered their Lordships Message:
And, as to the Time of the Conference, and the Meeting
of their Members that are of the Committee of both
Kingdoms, as is desired, they do agree: And, as to the
Petition of the Lady Marchioness of Winchester, they will
send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Resolved, &c. That the monthly Sum of Fifty-three
thousand Four hundred Thirty-six Pounds and Six-pence
shall be assessed, for the Maintenance of the Army under
the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax.
Resolved, &c. That this Ordinance for the Payment of
the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax
Knight, for Six Months, from the First Day of October
1646, by a monthly Assessment, be committed to a Committee of the whole House: And the Committee is to meet
upon it To-morrow at Two of Clock in the Afternoon;
It is Resolved, &c. That this Committee shall have
Power to consider, Whether any Counties are sit to be
exempted from the Payment of this Sum, assigned for the
Payment of the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas
Fairfax: They have further Power to consider of any other
Way for the Raising of this Money, or any Part thereof.