Die Veneris, 16 Octobris, 1646.
AN Ordinance made for the due Printing of the Holy
Bible, and some other Books; and for the publishing, in Print, the Old Testament in Greek (commonly
called the Septuagint Translation), out of a very ancient
Copy in the Hands of Patrick Yonge Esquire; was this
Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Whittacre, Sir William Allenson, Mr.
Dennis Bond, Sir Walter Erle, Mr. Yonge, Mr. Selden,
Mr. Holland, Mr. Venn, Mr. Bacon, Sir John Evelyn of
Surrey, Sir Dudley North, Sir Thomas Dacres, Mr. Lane,
Sir Richard Onslowe, Mr. Pury, Mr. Challoner, Sir John
D'Anvers, Sir Henry Vane, Sir Robert Pye, Mr. Liegh,
Mr. Corbett, Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Sandys, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Boys, Sir Edward
Partherich, Mr. Hill, Mr. Tate, Sir Richard Skevington,
Mr. Knightley, Sir Simmonds D'Ewes, Mr. Oldesworth,
Mr. Lucas, Mr. Stephens, Mr. Harrington, Mr. Lisle, Mr.
Kirkham, Mr. Nathanael Fiennes, Sir John Burgoine, Mr.
Abbott; and the Committee formerly named for the University of Cambridge; and the Committee lately named for
the University of Oxford: And they are to meet upon it
To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the
Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records.
And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Selden.
Ordered, That Mr. Oldesworth be added to the Committee for the Regulation of the University of Oxford.
Mr. Greene reports the Amendments to the Ordinance
concerning Foreign Plantations: The which were twice
The Proviso, being put to the Question, amended, was
assented unto, upon the Question.
The Amendments were assented unto, upon the Question.
Then the Ordinance, with the Amendments and Proviso, upon the Question, passed; and is ordered to be
carried to the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ordered, That the Letter from the Grand Assembly in
Virginia, of 17 Martii 1645, be referred to the Committee for Foreign Plantations: Who are to give an Answer thereunto, if they shall see Cause; or report it to the
Ordered, That the Ordinance for Sale of the Bishops
Lands, upon the Loan of the Two hundred thousand
Pounds, be brought in on Monday Morning next: And
that the House do take the said Ordinance into Consideration, the first Business: And Mr. Speaker is to put the
House in mind hereof.
Mr. Greene reports the Amendments to the Ordinance
for upholding the Trade, and settling the Government,
of the Fellowship of the Merchants of London trading
to the East-Indies: The which were twice read.
Mr. Lisle reports Heads of a Conference to be had with
the Lords, concerning the Printing of some Passages and
Speeches of the Lord Lowden's, delivered at the late Conferences between the Committee of both Houses and the
Scotts Commissioners: The which were read; and, upon
the Question, approved of; and were as followeth; viz.
That the House having received Information, on the
Fourteenth, of October instant, That several Speeches and
Passages, delivered at the last Conference between a Committee of both Houses and the Scotts Commissioners, in
the Painted Chamber, were sent to the Press, to be forthwith printed and published;
That the Report of that Conference having not yet
been made to the Houses; but deferred, upon the Desires
of the Scotts Commissioners; they having earnestly desired,
That Report might not be made, until they have sent in
a Paper to the Houses, which should clearly represent their
Sense concerning the same;
That the House of Commons, having received these
Informations; considering what Misinformations have been
formerly printed and published to asperse the Parliament,
and to disaffect the People; to prevent Designs of such
dangerous Consequence, in Matters of so great Importance
as were contained in that Conference, sent both for the Papers and Printers; and, upon Examination, found the
Matter of Fact to be thus;
That Laurence Chapman, the Bookseller, produced a
Warrant, under the Lord Chancellor's Hand, dated the
Thirteenth of this Month; which Warrant is to be read:
That the Warrant beareth Date the Thirteenth of this instant October; and directeth the Printers not to publish,
or give out, any of those Speeches, being printed, until
further Order from the Lord Lowden: But, when this
Warrant was dated, and when written; and when
these Speeches, with the Preface, were to be published;
will appear by the following Examinations:
And then to read the Examinations of Laurence Chapman,
Samuel Peck, and Anne Griffyth:
That the House received the Information on the Fourteenth of this Month, about Ten of the Clock in the Morning: Summoned the Printers about Twelve: The Printers confess, That they were to be published the next Day:
But, about One of the Clock that Day, the Lord Chancellor gave him a Warrant, written the Fourteenth Day, but
dated the Thirteenth Day, of this Month, not to publish
them until further Order:
That the Preface, as it appears, by Chapman's Examination, to be printed with these Speeches, was delivered him
by the Lord Chancellor's own Hand:
That these Observations be made upon it:
1. To have Arguments held forth to the Kingdom,
against the Judgment of Parliament, in Matters of this
Importance, is not for the Good of the Kingdom.
2. To have Arguments printed, all of the one Side,
and none of the other, is not to deal fairly with the Kingdom.
3. To desire the Lords, That a Committee may be
appointed to join with a Committee of this House; and
to consider of some way of righting the Houses, and to
prevent Inconveniences of the like Nature for the future.
Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, at such
Time as their Lordships shall think fit, concerning Printing of several Speeches and Passages of late Conferences
between Committees of both Houses and the Scotts Commissioners.
Ordered, &c. That, so soon as the House shall return
from the Conference, that they do proceed to the Consideration of the Ordinance concerning the East-India Company, now reported, and in Debate whereof the House
was, before their going to the Conference.
Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords will
send Answer by Messengers of their own.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords have appointed to give you a present Conference, concerning the Scotts Papers, as is desired, in
the Painted Chamber, by Committees of both Houses;
and do desire, That, at the same Conference, they may
communicate something touching the Matter of the last
Conference concerning the Great Seal.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree, That the
Lords may, at this Conference, communicate what they
desire concerning the Great Seal.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House hath considered their Lordships Message; and do
agree, That, at this Conference, they may communicate
what they desire concerning the Great Seal.
Ordered, &c. That, on Monday Morning next, after the
Ordinance for the Loan of Two hundred thousand Pounds,
upon the Credit of the Sale of Bishops Lands, Sir Robert
Harley do present the Petition in his Hands, concerning
Ordered, &c. That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the Reports concerning Ireland be made: And that,
immediately after those Reports, the House do proceed to
the Consideration of private Petitions, and no other Business.
Ordered, &c. That, on Tuesday next, the first Business, the Reports concerning any Violations of the Articles of Oxon, Exon, and Truro, be made.
Mr. Lisle, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Nath.
Fiennis, Mr. Morley, Mr. Abbott, are appointed Managers and Reporters of this Conference.