House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 11 November 1652

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 7, 1651-1660. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 11 November 1652', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 7, 1651-1660, (London, 1802) pp. 213-214. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol7/pp213-214 [accessed 18 April 2024]

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Thursday, the 11th of November, 1652.

Prayers.

Letter, &c. read.

A LETTER from the Commissioners of the Parliament in Ireland, dated at Kilkenny the 22th of October 1652, was this Day read.

Proposals, humbly offered by a General Council of Officers to the General and Commissioners of Parliament; which they humbly pray may be presented to the Parliament of the Commonwealth of England; were this Day read.

Adventurers in Ireland.

Ordered, That this Letter and Proposals be referred to the Committee, touching the Adventurers in Ireland: With Power to confer with all Parties interested or concerned; and to consider of these Proposals, and what may conduce to the publick Advantage; and present their Opinion therein to the House with all convenient Speed: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and so de die in diem.

Persons thanked.

The House being informed, that Sir Hardres Waller, Colonel Lawrence, and the Judge Advocate in Ireland, were at the Door, they were ordered to be called in.

Resolved, That Mr. Speaker do, from the Parliament, let them know, That the Parliament doth take Notice of their eminent and faithful Service for this Commonwealth; and return to them the hearty Thanks of the Parliament; and likewise to the rest of the Officers and Soldiers there; and to acquaint them what the Parliament hath done in reference to the said Letter and Proposals.

They were called in, accordingly:

And being come to the Bar, Mr. Speaker did, according to the Order of the House, acquaint them, That the Parliament did take especial Notice of their eminent and faithful Service, and likewise of the rest of the Officers and Soldiers in Ireland; and did give unto them, and, by them, unto the rest of the Officers and Soldiers there, for their faithful and eminent Service, the hearty Thanks of the Parliament: And did likewise acquaint them with the former Vote of the Parliament, touching the Letters and Proposals.

And thereupon those Gentlemen withdrew.

Probates of Wills, &c.

Mr. Hill reports from the Committee, Amendments to the Bill touching Wills and Administrations, Legacies, Marriages and Divorces: Which were twice read.

Resolved, That this Bill be re-committed to the Committee who hath Power to receive the Reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the Inconveniences of the Law: With Power to this Committee to consider of what lies before them, or shall be presented to them, to that Purpose: And to send for and confer with any other Persons they shall think fit: And to bring in the Report on this Day Sevennight: And all that come to have Voices.

The Question being propounded, That these Words, "the Committee appointed to consider of the Inconveniences of the Law, or," be added to the former Vote;

And the Question being put, That that Question be now put;

It passed in the Affirmative.

And the main Question being put; It was

Resolved, That these Words, "the Committee appointed to consider of the Inconveniences of the Law, or" be added to the former Vote. And so it was

Resolved, That this Bill be re-committed to the Committee who have Power to receive the Reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the Inconveniences of the Law: With Power to this Committee to consider of what lies before them, or shall be presented to them, to this Purpose: And to send for and confer with the Committee appointed to consider of the Inconveniences of the Law, or any other Persons they shall think fit: And to bring in the Report on this Day Sevennight: And all that come to have Voices: And the Committee are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber, at Two of the Clock; and so de die in diem.

The humble Petition of the Doctors of the Civil Law, whose Names are thereunder subscribed, on Behalf of themselves and their Profession; was this Day read.

Ordered, That this Petition be referred to the Committee to whom the Bill aforesaid is re-committed; with Power to hear the Petitioners, and present their Opinions therein to the House.

Registering Conveyances.

Ordered, That the same Committee do consider of the Bill presented unto them, touching the Registering of Conveyances; and present a Bill to the House on this Day Sevennight.

Scotch Affairs.

A Letter from Major-General Deane, from Dalkeith, dated 2 Novembris 1652, was this Day read; with the Copies of several Orders, made by the Commissioners of Parliament for Ordering and Managing the Affairs of Scotland, dated the Third of March 1652, the 13th of April 1653, and 28th of April 1652.

Resolved, That Major General Deane be authorized to give Order, for the Issuing out of what Monies are to be issued for the Administration of Justice in Scotland, and paying of Officers Salaries there, until the First of May next.

Resolved, That all the publick Revenue of Scotland, arising by way of Assessment, Custom, late King's Revenue, Sequestrations, or otherwise, shall be issued forth by Warrant, under the Hand of the Commander in Chief in Scotland, until the First of May next.

Resolved, That the said Revenue shall be by him issued, for the Making of such Fortifications as are needful in Scotland, not exceeding Two thousand Pounds by the Month; as also by way of Loan upon Account, for Supply of the Army and Forces, for the preventing Free Quarter, and for carrying on other Necessaries and publick Services in Scotland; and the Remainder to be applied for Payment of the Forces in Scotland.

The Question being put, That the Order for not Sitting Saturdays and Mondays be suspended till the last of December.

And the Question being put, That that Question be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Lord Viscount Lisle, Tellers for the Noes: 35.
Major-Gen. Harrison, With the Noes,
Sir Henry Vane, junior, Tellers for the Yeas: 37.
Colonel Fuller, With the Yeas,

So it passed with the Affirmative.

And the main Question being put;

The House was again divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Henry Vane, Tellers for the Yeas: 36.
Sir Wm. Masham, With the Yeas,
Sir Arthure Hesilrig, Tellers for the Noes: 38.
Alderman Allein, With the Noes,

So it passed with the Negative.