House of Commons Journal Volume 7
11 December 1656

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 11 December 1656', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 7: 1651-1660 (1802), pp. 466-467. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=24523 Date accessed: 31 July 2014.


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Thursday, the 11th of December, 1656.

Deane's, &c. Nat.

A BILL for Naturalizing of Martha Deane, Peter Richier, David Griell, James de la Port, Saloman le Marchand, Frederick Houpert, Daniel Tripier, Cornelius Vanbomell, Nathaniell Johnson, Phebe Blakiston, Abigall Johnson, and Sarah Johnson, was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, passed.

Ordered, That the Lord Protector's Consent be desired to this Bill.

Rooms belonging to the House.

Colonel Shapcott reports from the Committee, to whom it was referred to consider of the Patent of Mr. Whynyard, the State of the Matter of Fact, touching the Rooms called the Lords House, the Painted Chamber, the Prince's Chamber, and the Princess' Chamber; with the Opinion of the Committee therein: Which was read; and, upon the Question, agreed.

The Report was in these Words; viz.

Mr. Whynyard's Title to the Lords House, &c.

THE late King, by Letters Patents, dated 19 March, in the Tenth Year of his Reign, for the Consideration of Service done by one John Wynyard, Father of the present Patentee John Wynyard the Son, did grant the Custody of the Royal Place of Westminster, during the Term of his natural Life, with the Fee of Six-pence per diem, to be paid out of the Exchequer, and with the same Profits and Advantages as formerly were enjoyed by other Patentees.

12th of December 1650, we find 22£. 16s. 3d. paid in Part of the Arrears of the Salary aforesaid; and that the said John Wynyard the Father, deceased, by the like Patent granted unto him, did, for divers Years, by virtue thereof, keep those Rooms commonly called the Lords House, the Painted Chamber, the Prince's Chamber, the Princess' Chamber, and Eight or Nine Rooms adjoining, next to the Water-side.

The Claim of Mr. Hull:

That he is a Servant unto the Serjeant at Arms, and by him appointed to keep those Rooms in time of Parliament, for the Service of the Parliament; and, when no Parliament, for the Service of my Lord Protector.

We find, that those Rooms have, Time out of Mind, been used as publick Rooms for the Service of the State.

That by several Orders of Parliament, and of his Highness, the Serjeant at Arms is commanded to take care, that these Rooms be provided and fitted for publick Use.

Upon Consideration of the Whole, the Committee are of Opinion, That neither the Serjeant at Arms, or Mr. Hull his Deputy, ought to be sued or molested by Wynyard; they having done nothing but by the Command of the Supreme Authority; who have had the Disposing of those Rooms at their Pleasure.

Resolved, upon the Question, by the Parliament, That neither the Serjeant at Arms, nor Mr. Wm. Hull his Deputy, ought to be sued or molested by the said Wynyard; they having done nothing but by the Command of the Supreme Authority; who have had the Disposing of those Rooms at their Pleasure.

Resolved, That it be referred to the same Committee, to consider of and examine the Title of the said Wynyard, and his Patent; and also what Benefit and Advantages he hath and receiveth by reason of the said Patent; and report the same to the House.

Colonel Shapcott also reports, a Paper containing the Desire of the Serjeant at Arms for an Allowance of Monies for Fire, Candle, and other Necessaries, used in the Parliament House, and Committee-Rooms, and for Fourteen Servants attending the House and Committee.

Nayler's Blasphemies.

Mr. Bampfeild reports from the Committee, to whom the Business of James Nayler was referred, a Bill of Charges in bringing up Naylor, and the rest of the Quakers, from Bristoll.

Ditto.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Commissioners for the Treasury, to consider of these Bills; and to put the same into a Way, that they may be satisfied.

Rooms over the House.

Ordered, That the Keys of the Rooms over the Parliament-House be forthwith delivered into the Hands of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, to be by him kept: And that the Person or Persons, who have the Keys, be required to deliver them over to the Serjeant at Arms, accordingly.

Nayler's Blasphemies.

The House, according to former Order, resumed the Debate upon the Report touching James Nayler.

The Question being put, That the House adjourn for Two Hours;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Rich. Pigott, Tellers for the Yeas: 84.
Mr. Barington, With the Yeas,
Major-General Howard, Tellers for the Noes: 87.
Sir John Hobart, With the Noes,

So it passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That this Debate touching James Naylor be adjourned till To-morrow Morning; and nothing to intervene.