House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 12 May 1628

Lunae, 12 Maii

Subsidies.

L. 1a. AN Act for the Grant of Five intire Subsidies, granted by the Temporalty.

Curates.

L. 2a. An Act for a better Allowance of preaching Curates, and to redress the Neglect of preaching and catechizing:-Committed to Sir Edw. Coke, Mr. Whitaker, Sir Edw. Ascoughe, Sir A. Ingram, Sir Francis Glanvyle, Mr. Hampden, Sir Wm. Twisden, Sir Tho. Thynn, Mr. Packer, Mr. Rowse, Sir Wm. Boulstrode, Sir Nath. Barnadiston, Sir Wm. Spring, Sir Jo. Danvers: - This Afternoon. Two Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Prisoner discharged, &c.

A Petition, from Pecke, read. Discharged of his Contempt, bringing in the Patent, Registry, &c.

Bills.

The ingrossed Bills to be read To-morrow, Nine Clock.

Arms.

Committee for Arms, - To-morrow, Four Clock in the Afternoon, in the Inner Temple Hall.

Beacons, &c.

This Committee to take Consideration of the Watching of Beacons, and other Watches upon the Sea-coasts.

Timber.

Knights of the Shire of Gloucestershyre, Herefordshyre, and Huntingdonshyre, added to the Committee for Preservation of Timber.

Freeze's, &c. Nat.

Mr. Freeze and Mr. Al. Leviston's Bill, - To-morrow Morning, Seven Clock, in the former Place.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Jo. Franklyn licensed to depart, for a few Days, in respect of the Sickness of his Father-in-law.

Salt peter.

Bill for Salt-peter, - To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the Inner Temple Hall, Three Clock.

River Medway.

L. 2a. An Act for the Making of the River of Meadway navigable for Barges, Boats, and Lighters, from the Town of Maidstone to the Town of Penshurst, in the County of Kent: - Committed to Knights and Burgesses of Kent and Sussex, Barons of the Cinque Ports, Mr. Coriton, Mr. Coke, Citizens of London, Captain Brett, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Ro. Cotton, Sir Wm. Bulstrode, Sir J. Perrott, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir O. Luke, Sir Geor. Fane, Mr. Alford, Mr. Pymme, Mr. Valentyne, Sir A. Ingram, Sir Gerv. Clifton, Sir Wm. Walter, Sir Ro. Maunsell, Mr. Selden, Sir Wm. Twisden, Knights of Hertfordshyre, Oxfordshyre, and Essex, and Surrey, Sir Ro. Pye, Mr. Hatcher, Sir Edw. Dennys, Sir Rich. Buller: - To-morrow sevennight. Two Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber. The Parties to have Notice; and Counsel to be heard if they will bring any.

Cornewayle Election.

Sir Ro. Cotton reporteth from the Committee, for Examination of the Letters of the Gentlemen of Cornewayle, sent for. -

Three Courses by them, to prejudice the free Election: 1. Power: Taking upon them to be the Governors of the County. 2ly, An Assembly by them; wherein they elected Mr. Mohun and Sir Rich. Edgecombe, and stile this a laudable Custom of the Country; where no such Custom ; and, if any, unlawful. 3ly, Their Employing the King's Posts in carrying Letters.

2ly, Scandal: - Against Two Gentlemen of this House; Sir Jo. Ellyott, and Sir. Coriton: That they were unquiet Persons, in Disfavour with the King, &c,

3ly, Menace; particular, against Mr. Coriton, to join against him with all their Force, if he would not desist. The Captains of the Trained Band summoned to appear at the Election. - General to the Country. -

Which the Committee took to be a strange Presumption in them, to take upon them to know his Majesty's Mind [a]. -

That they found their Petition a high Contempt to the House : In the Direction : In their appointing their own Time, and neglecting the Time appointed by the House: In their Excuse for not coming up; to stay to hang One by martial Law; to bind Alehouse-keepers, &c. Conceived to be but a Scorn to the House.

A Petition from Sir Wm. Wray, and the Three other, read: The Substance, to have Counsel assigned them.

Much Debate about it, whether, in this Case, Counsel to be assigned, the Matters, charged upon them, being only Matters of Fact.

Upon Question, Resolved, First to call them in One by One, and to demand of them to answer, what Counsel, Advice, or Help, they had, in drawing the Letters, or Petition. -

Person standing in the Entry.

One standing in the Entry, none of the House, called in to the Bar, and kneeling, asked, whether of the House; and answering, no (called Ro. Barbor) confesseth, it was through Ignorance: And there being good Testimony of him, for his Religion, and otherwise, pardoned by the House. -

Cornewayle Election.

When they are severally examined, they are to be kept apart by the Serjeant, and not suffered to speak one with another.

Sir Wm. Wray, called in, and, kneeling, demanded the Question aforesaid, saith, he came not to the Company, till the Letter written, and then, required, set his Hand to it; nor knoweth not by whose Direction written: So for the Petition.

Mr. Jo. Trelawney, called in, and, kneeling, asked the same Questions, - knoweth not certainly, who drew the Letters, but drawn by some of the Company; nor by whose Directions done, but written by one Peter Henden, Clerk to the Lord Mohun: Knoweth not certainly who wrote the Petition. - That Sir Reginald Mohun first subscribed it.

Mr. Langdon, called, and asked the same Questions, - that the Heads agreed upon among them, and delivered them to a Clerk, to draw into Form; and that then they read them, and approved them. That he himself drew the Petition. The Error, in the Direction, of mere Ignorance, he having never been a Parliament-man.

Mr. Edw. Trelawney, called in, and asked these Questions, answereth, he knoweth not who drew them: At their Meeting about the King's Service, Letters tendered to them: which subscribed: Nor knoweth who drew the Petition; but sent to him, and he signed it. -

House to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ashley and Serjeant Ayloffe; That the Lords desire, this House will sit a convenient Time, because, they think, they shall have Occasion to send to us again this Morning; but, if their Debate shall hold so long, as, in convenient Time, they cannot send, they will give us Knowlege of it.

Answer returned by the same Messengers: This House will sit a convenient Time, as is desired, -

Privilege.

Upon Question, these Four Gentlemen to be allowed Counsel, and to be heard by their Counsel.

2ly, That they shall be heard at the Committee this Afternoon, at Two of the Clock; and the Committee to report their Opinion to the House.

Conference.

A Message from the Lords, by Lord Chief Justice and Justice Yelverton; That the Lords desire a present Conference, between a Committee of this whole House, and a Committee of that House, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, about the great and weighty Affairs depending in both Houses.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House will give a present Meeting to their Lordships, as is desired.

Resolved, Only to hear and not to speak.

Sir Edw. Coke, Mr. Selden, Sir D. Digges, Mr. Glanvyle, to be the Reporters.

Ordered, All the Gentlemen to give Room to the Reporters.

Mr. Speaker to stay here, till hear from the Conference.

The Committee .....

Recusants.

Sir Nat. Bainton, Mr. Whitakers, Sir Tho. Cannon, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Rob. Barrington, Sir Row. Cotton, Sir Gervase Clifton, Sir Rob. Harley, Sir Jo. Hotham, Sir Tho. Fanshaw, Sir Mi. Fleetwood, Sir Fra. Onslowe, M. Ersfeild, Sir Will. Alford, Sir Rob. Crane, Sir Raphe Hopton, added to the Committee for preparing the

Presentments of Recusants: And are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the former Place.

Burgesse's Petition.

Mr. Burgesse sendeth in a Petition; but it being not signed, the House signified to him, that brought it, by the Serjeant, that they would not meddle with it in that respect.

Complaint against Burgesse.

Upon Question, the Complaint, and Accusations, against Burgesse, to be presented by the House to the Lords.

These Complaints, and Accusations, to be drawn into the Form of a parliamentary Charge. -

Sir Nath. Rich, Mr. Pymme, Sir W. Earle, Mr. Rowse, Mr. Sherland, Mr. Whitakers: - This Afternoon, in the Duchy Chamber, at Five of the Clock.

Treasurers of Subsidies.

A Petition, from the Treasurers of the Subsidies and Fifteens, granted 21o Jac. read. - Respited.

Conference.

Sir Edw. Coke reporteth from the Conference with the Lords, the Effect of the Lord Keeper's Speech, and Proceeding, about this half Conference.

King's Letter.

A Copy of his Majesty's Letter to the Lords, sent us; and read. And the Alterations, propounded by the Lords, delivered also in Writing: Which read.

Copies of these Alterations, and of the Letter: And then this Business to be debated To-morrow, Nine Clock.