House of Commons Journal Volume 7
7 April 1659

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 7 April 1659', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 7: 1651-1660 (1802), pp. 627-631. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=24741&strquery=Debt Navy Date accessed: 25 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Thursday, the 7th of April, 1659.

Prayers.

Leave of Absence.

RESOLVED, &c. That Mr. Morris, one of the Members of this House, by reason of his Indisposition of Health, shall have Leave to go into the Country for one Month; notwithstanding the Order for Calling over of the House.

Invalid Soldiers.

The humble Petition of Two thousand Five hundred sick and maimed Soldiers, belonging to Ely-house, and the Savoy Hospital, on the Behalf of themselves, and above Four thousand Widows, and Orphans, who receive Pensions from thence, was this Day read: And was, to have the Arrears of their Pensions speedily satisfied; and the weekly Allowance, granted for their Relief and Maintenance, to be established, and duly paid.

Resolved, &c. That this Petition be referred to a Committee; to consider of it, and report their Opinion therein to the House.

Lord Fairfax, Colonel Whetham, Colonel Grosvenor, Mr. Rushworth, Colonel Gorge, Mr. Hugh Boscawen, Sir William Wheeller, Mr. Trenchard, Colonel Scroope, Major Burton, Sir John Copplestone, Mr. Lance, Sir Thomas Dicconson, Mr. Payler, Mr. Francis Gerard, Mr. Bayles, Captain Hatsell, Major-General Browne, Mr. Margetts, Colonel Birch, Sir Robert Goodwyn, Mr. Alsop, Sir Walter Earle, Mr. Searle, Captain Stone, Mr. Gilbert Gerard, Mr. Unton Croke, Mr. Hewley, Mr. Ralph Bankes, Colonel Bennett, Colonel Cox, Mr. Challoner, Colonel Clerke, Sir Wilfrid Lawson, Mr. Thomas Burton, Dr. Staines, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Scawen, Mr. Sherwyn, Mr. Jenkinson, are to consider of the aforesaid Petition of the sick and maimed Soldiers; and report their Opinion thereupon: And are to meet about the same, in the Star-Chamber, To-morrow, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon.

Publick Revenue.

Mr. Scawen reports from the Committee for the Inspection into the Accompts, and publick Revenue, A brief View of the publick Revenue, both certain and casual; with the ordinary Expence of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland, respectively, in the Three Nations, for one Year; together with a State of the Publick Debts, as the same appeared to the said Committee: The which was read; and was as followeth; that is to say;

A brief View of the Publick Revenue, both certain and casual; with the ordinary Expence of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland, respectively, in the Three Nations, for one Year; together with a State of the Publick Debts, as the same doth appear to the Committee appointed by the House of Commons, for the Inspection into the Accompts, and Publick Revenue, as followeth: That is to say,

The Income of England:
£. s. d.
By Assessments of 35,000 £. a Month 420,000
By Customs and Subsidies in the Ports of London, and the Out-Ports 391,630 17
By the Custom of Sea-Coal exported out of England and Scotland, in Farm to Mr. Noell, at 22,000 £. a Year; whereof, Mr. Noell affirms, 2,216£. 5s. 4d. is for the Coals of Scotland; and is hereafter charged in the Income of Scotland; and therefore to be here deducted: And the Remain is 19,783 14 8
By the Excise of Goods imported into the Port of London, and Out-Ports 196,783 12 7
By the Excise of inland Commodities of England and Scotland, in Farm to Mr. Noell, at 65,000£. a Year; whereof, Mr. Noell affirms, 1,674£. 9 s. 5 d. is for the inland Commodities of Scotland; and is hereafter charged as Part of the Income of Scotland; and is therefore here deducted: And so the Remain is 58,375 15 7
By the Excise of Beer and Ale in Farm 329,011
By Receivers-General, arising chiefly by Papists and Delinquents Estates 54,087 5 9
By Probate of Wills 7,993 18 3
By Postage of Letters, in Farm 14,000
By Fines for Alienations 4,883 13 4
By the Hanaper-Office 3,876 9 2
By the Duty of Sea-Coals, in Farm 1,838 12 6
By Wine-Licences 4,131 6 10
By Post Fines, in Farm 3,000
By the Issues of Jurors, in Farm 1,000
By the Green Wax, besides the Wages of the Justices of Peace 135 18

Publick Revenue.

£. s. d.
By Sheriffs in the Pipe, and by Minute-Rents vested in Trustees for the Sale of Fee-farm Rents; and for Lands extended; for Outlawries, and Debts let to Farm 1,542 14 3
By Seizures in the Pipe 844 5 11
By Sheriffs, for Debts of several Natures 498 1 3
By the Butlerage, in Farm 500
By the Profits of Liberties 81 9 2
By the Forest of Deane, in several Sorts of Iron Shot delivered into the publick Stores of the Office of the Ordnance 1,575 14
By the Mint 3 5 9
By the Aulnage, a Rent of 997 £. 1 s. 11 d. is in Charge; but for Twelve Years last past, it hath been ill paid, and sometimes very little; in the Year 1657 was answered 997 1 11
The Tenths and First-Fruits Nil.

Note, That we find, in a Report made by a Grand Committee for the publick Revenue, in the Year 1654, a yearly Income set upon the Particulars following; that is to say,

Upon the Forest of Deane 4,000
The Islands of Garnesey and Jersey 2,000
The Coinage of Tin 2,000

But nothing answered for any of those, save the Sum of 1,575 £. 14 s. 7 d. out of the Forest of Deane, in Iron Shot, as before is expressed.

Note also, That, the last Year, there was answered in the Exchequer the several Sums of Money hereafter mentioned; that is to say,

For Deans and Chapters Lands, sold 3,433 11 7
For Fee-farm Rents, sold 1,134 15 4
For Compositions for new Buildings 30,229 19
For Prize-Goods 3,770
For Fines of Delinquents, at 3,565 15 9
For Fines in Star-Chamber
From the Commissioners of sequestred Estates 160
From the Treasurers at Drury-House 400
Forestalled Debts 603 6 8
From the Collectors of the 400,000 £. Subsidy 111 19 10½
For the Duty of One per Cent. 4,382 9 11
For Fines of Leases 26 4
For Goods forfeited for Treason 215
For Lands seized and extended 221 16 1
For Rent of Lands 1,511 1 4
For the Plymouth Duty 500
For Sale of Woods 58 10
For the Duchy of Lancaster 649 8 —½
For the Yorkeshire Engagement 400

These Duties are casual; and many of them are expired, and the rest are declining; and, though some Money may be raised and gotten in upon them, towards the Payment of the Publick Debts, yet are not to be reckoned or relied upon, as an annual Income.

£. s. d.
And so the whole annual Income of England is 1,517,274 17 1
The Income of Scotland.
By Assessments of 6,000 £. a Month 72,000
By Property and constant Rent, payable into the Exchequer 5,324 18
By Casualty and uncertain Rent, received by Sheriffs, and accounted for in the Exchequer 576 3 5
By Composition of Signatories in the Exchequer 929 6
By Customs Inward and Outward, and by the Excise of Goods imported, in Farm to Mr. Noell 12,500
By the Customs of Sea-Coal, in Farm to Mr. Noell, with the Customs of Sea-Coal in England, at the Rent of 22,000 £. a Year; and for which Mr. Noell affirms, that the Sum of 2,216 £. 5 s. 4d. is paid for the Coals of Scotland, and is therefore deducted out of that Rent in the Income of England before-mentioned; and is here to be charged as Part of the Income of Scotland 2,216 5 4
By the Excise of Foreign Salt, 550 £. a Year; and, by the Excise of Inland Salt, 1,124 £. 9 s. 5 d.; in all, 1,674 £. 9 s. 5 d. which Commodities are in Farm to Mr. Noell, with the Excise of the Inland Commodities of England, under the yearly Rent of 65,000 £. And is therefore deducted out of that Rent in the Income of England before-mentioned; and is here to be charged as Part of the Income of Scotland 1,674 9 5
By the Excise of Beer, Ale, and Aqua-vitæ 47,444 13 4
By Forfeiture of Goods uncustomed and unexcised 595 10 11½
By the Interest of Money set apart for the Judges Salaries 391 5
And so the whole annual Income of Scotland is 143,652 11 11
The Income of Ireland.
By the Assessments of 9,000 £. a Month 108,000
By the Customs and Excise, in Farm 70,000
By Rents of Lands, Houses, &c. 20,679
By Rents of Impropriations, &c. 7,611
By Sheriffs Accompts; the Hanaper-Accompt, with Fines and Amerciaments 1,500
And so the whole annual Income of Ireland is 207,790

The Issues of England.

In Pay of the Army of England, at 29,301 £. 18 s. 10 d. by the Month, according to the Establishment hereafter following; that is to say;

By the Month. By the Year.
£. s. d. £. s. d.
To the General Officers of the Army 639 11 4 380,925 4 10
To Nine Regiments of Horse, each Regiment consisting of Six Troops, and each Troop of Forty-eight Soldiers 11,709 12
To the Life-Guard of One hundred and Six Soldiers 1,080 16
To Eight Regiments and Two Companies of Foot; each Regiment consisting of Ten Companies, and each Company of Eighty Soldiers 9,415 6 4
To the Train of Artillery 44 12 6
To divers Garisons in several Places 6,422 8
In Part of the Pay of the Army in Scotland, out of the Assessments 11,400 148,200
In Part of the Pay of the Army in Ireland, out of the Assessments 8,000 104,000
In Pay of the Forces in Jamaica, consisting of One thousand Five hundred and Ninety-seven Soldiers, with Officers 4,153 2 53,990 6

Publick Revenue.

In the Pay of the Forces in Flanders, at 5,951 £. 5 s. by the Month, according to the Establishment hereafter following; that is to say,

By the Month. By the Year.
£. s. d. £. s. d.
To a Regiment of Horse, consisting of Six Troops; and each Troop of Ninety-five Troopers 2,269 1 77,366 5 8
To Three Regiments of Foot; each Regiment consisting of Ten Companies, and each Company of Ninety Soldiers 3,357 4
To Two Majors; one for Dunkirke, and one for Mardike 9 6 8
To the Train of Artillery 266 14
For Contingencies 49
To a Minister per Annum 200
The whole Pay of the Army and Forces for a Year £. 764,481 15 10

Besides an Allowance of Cloaths to the Non-Commission-Officers and Foot Soldiers in Flanders.

In the Pay of the ordinary Guards and Fleets at Sea, and Building of Ships, by way of Estimate yearly, as followeth; that is to say;

ENGLAND.
£. s. d.
For the Charge of Seven thousand Five hundred Men, to be employed in Fifty Ships, for a Summer's Guard for seven Months, at Four Pounds a Man by the Month 210,000
For the Charge of Five thousand Two hundred and Fifty Men, to be employed in Thirty-five Ships, for a Winter's Guard for Seven Months, at Four Pounds a Man by the Month 147,000
For Building of Ships yearly 40,000
In the Pay of the Commissioners of the Admiralty, and the Commissioners of the Navy, and the Treasurers of the Navy 7,744
In the Pay of the Standing-Officers belonging to the Yards, and of Ships in Harbours 3,628 6 10
In the Pay of the Officers and Seamen employed in the Looking-to of Ships in Docks, and otherwise unemployed 45,613 13 9
The whole Charge of the Navy by the Year 453,986 7
In Interest paid for Two hundred Sixty-eight thousand and Forty-seven Pounds Nineteen Shillings and Six-pence, charged upon the Receipt of the Excise by Acts and Ordinances of Parliament for a Year 20,585 13 7
In Expence of his Highness' Houshold yearly 100,000
In Repair of his Highness' Houses yearly 5,650
In Monies advanced to the Treasurer of his Highness' publick Contingencies 23,496 6 8
In Allowances to publick Ministers, employed abroad 11,089 11 2
In Gifts and Rewards 2,262 12 2
In Payments of sundry Natures, as by a Particular 11,734 12
In Liberaties of the Courts at the Receipt of the Exchequer; and for a Defalcation upon Sea-Coal 582 16
In Allowances, Fees, and Salaries, paid out of the Exchequer 24,674 7
In Pensions and Annuities paid out of the Exchequer 5,897
In Salaries to Judges in England and Wales; and a Pension of Five hundred Pounds yearly, paid out of the Customs to the Earl of Nottingham 16,286 13 4
In Salaries, Fees, and Charges, incident and extraordinary in managing the Excise yearly 28,178 3 11
In the like, for managing the Customs yearly 42,714 3 5
In the like, for collecting the monthly Assessments of 35,000 £. a Month, the Sum of 7,000 £.; and for the Charges and Salaries of the Committee of the Army, and Treasurers at Wars, 8,279 £. 9s. 2d.; in all 15,279 9 2
In the like, for the Committee of Appeals 1,800
In the like, for the Judges and other Officers employed in the Probate of Wills, and incident Charges 2,584 10
In the like, paid by, and allowed to, the Clerk of the Hanaper in ordinary, 751 £. 7 s. 4 d. and of extraordinary Payments, 3,123£. 19s. 7 d. in all 3,875 6 11
In the like Fees and Allowances to the Receiver, &c. of the Office of Alienations 1,044 17
In Fees to the Officers of the Mint, with their Diet, and incident Charges 1,154 19 5
In Officers Salaries, Rent, and other Charges of the Office of WineLicences, by Estimate 600
In Fees and Allowances to the Auditors and Receivers of the Revenue 4,287 10 4
In Allowances in the Pipe, upon Sheriffs Accompts, by Warrant from the Commissioners of the Treasury, and Judgment of the Court of Exchequer; that is to say, For casual Necessaries of several Natures, 2,498£. 14s. 10d.; For Apprehending of Felons, 945£.; and, in Fees in Passing of Sheriffs Accompts, 2,098 £.; in all 5,541 14 10
The Sum is 329,320 8
The whole Issues of England for a Year £. 1,547,788 4

In Pay of the Army in Scotland, at 20,818 £. 14 s. 2 d. by the Month, according to the Establishment hereafter following; that is to say,

The Issues of Scotland. By the Month. By the Year.
To the General Officers of the Army £. 343 14
To Five Regiments of Horse; each Regiment consisting of Six Troops, and each Troop of Forty-eight Soldiers 6,505 6 8
To Eleven Regiments and One Company of Foot; each Regiment consisting of Ten Companies, and each Company of Seventy Soldiers 11,900 2 4

Publick Revenue.

By the Month. By the Year.
£. s. d. £. s. d.
To Four Companies of Dragoons; each Company consisting of Forty-eight Dragoons 630 18 8 270,643 4 2
To the Train of Artillery 50 19 2
To divers Garisons in several Places 288 3 4
To defray Contingencies 1,100
In Salaries to the Counsel, and their Officers £. 9,410 11
In contingent Charges of the Counsel 350
In Salaries to the Court of Exchequer, 1,833 4 2
In the contingent Charges of the Exchequer 80 10
In Salaries to the Courts of Justice, 4,246 4
In contingent Charges of the Courts of Justice 485 12
In Salaries to the Commissioners of the Customs and of the Excise 4,177 9 6
In the contingent Charges of the said Commissioners 771 9 4
In Salaries to the Court of Admiralty, and their Officers 304 8 8
In the contingent Charges of the Admiralty 167 14 1
In Charges of an Hospital 587 10 6
In Fire and Candles to Soldiers for Guards, &c. 5,297 19 4
In Pensions, and other temporary Contingencies 8,915 15 9
The whole Issues of Scotland for a Year 307,271 12

In Pay of the Army in Ireland, at 23,967 £. 17s. 4d. by the Month, according to the Establishment hereafter following; that is to say,

The Issues of Ireland.
By the Month. By the Year.
To the General Officers of the Army 657 17 4 311,582 5 4
To Eleven Regiments and Ten Companies of Foot 11,473
To Six Regiments and Three Troops of Horse 9,293 19 4
To a Regiment of Dragoons 1,162 4 8
To the Life-Guard of Horse 277 18
To a Foot-Guard 155 8
To an Hospital 279 4
To Reparations of Garisons 500
In the Entertainment of the Lord Lieutenant 3,864 8 11
In Allowances to the Counsel, and the Clerks of the Counsel, and their Clerks and Attendants 7,600
In Allowances to the Lord Chancellor, and the Officers of the Chancery 2,258
In Allowances to the Lord Chief-Justice of the Upper-Bench, and Two Judges and Clerks of the Crown 1,167 10
In Allowances to the Lord Chief-Justice of the Common-Pleas, and Two Judges, and the Prothonotary 1,007 10
In Allowances to the Chancellor, Chief-Baron, and Two Barons of the Exchequer, with other Officers and Payments by Liberats 1,991 15
In Pay and Allowances to the Justices of Assize, in Five Circuits 1,000
In Pay to the Lord President of Connaught, and Two Provost Marshals of Lemster and Munster 1,887
In Pay to the Overseers of the Hospital of Dublyn, Nine Muster-Masters, Five Commissaries of Stores to the Overseers of the State's Houses; with an Allowance to the Provosts and Fellows of Trinity College 1,807 8 4
In Pay of Eight Receivers of the Revenue 165
In Pay to Twenty-eight Comptrollers and Searchers of the Customs 1,150
In Pensions to maimed Soldiers, and Widows and Orphans of Soldiers, 3,000
In Allowances and Contingencies, extraordinary Gratuities, and other casual Issues 8,000
The whole Issues of Ireland for a Year 346,480 18 3
The annual Income of England is, 1,517,274 17 1
The annual Issues and Expences of England are 1,547,788 4
The Balance is 30,513 17
The annual Income of Scotland is, 143,652 11 11
The annual Issues and Expences of Scotland 307,271 12
The Balance is 163,619
The annual Income of Ireland is, 207,790
The annual Issues and Expences of Ireland 346,480 18 3
The Balance is 138,690 18 3
The annual Income of England, Scotland, and Ireland, is 1,868,717 9
The annual Issues and Expences of England, Scotland, and Ireland, are 2,201,540 15 4
The Balance is 332,823 6 4

The State of the Debts of the Commonwealth; that is to say,

To the Navy, unto the First of November 1658, as the same is certified by the Commissioners of the Admiralty, and of the Navy, by way of Estimate 541,465 14 7
To the Army in England, to the Twenty-ninth of March 1659, as the same is certified by the Committee of the Army 223,747 8
To the Army in Scotland, to the Twenty-ninth of March 1659, as the same is certified by the Auditor of Scotland 93,827 13 —¾
£. s. d.
More for the Citadel at Leithe 1,800
To the Army in Ireland, to the Twentieth of December, as the same is certified by the Council of Ireland 299,225 5 4
More to pay up that Army, to the Twenty-ninth of March 1659, by Estimate 71,903 12
To the Forces in Jamaica, to the First of February 1657, 103,045£. 18s. 11d. as by a Certificate from the Treasurer for that Service; one Third-Part whereof being abated for Provisions, there is due 68,697£. 5s. 11d. ⅓. And for the said Forces, from the said First of February 1657, to the Twenty-sixth of March 1659, at 4,153£. 2s. per Month, for Fifteen Months, 62,296£. 18s. Out of which, One Third-Part being abated, for Provisions, as before, there is due, in the whole 110,228 11 3⅓;
To several Persons, for Provisions for the Forces in Flanders, as by a Certificate from the Commissioners of the Treasury 13,153 6 1
To several Persons, for Monies charged by Acts and Ordinances of Parliament, as by the Accompt of the Commissioners of Excise appears 268,047 19 6
To several Persons, charged upon the Exchequer, as the same is certified by the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury 124,184 15 6
The whole Debt at present is £. 1,747,584 5 9
Besides which, there is a growing Debt incurring for the Navy, for this present Year's Service, determining the First of November 1659, over and above the Sum of 143,292£. 19s. 8½d. which is already received towards this Service; and the Sum of 466,243£. 0s. 7d. allowed for the ordinary Charge of the Fleet, as in the Issues of this Year appears, the Sum of 393,882 8
And further, Whereas the Issues and Expences of England, Scotland, and Ireland, exceed the Income 332,823£. 6s. 4d. as by the Balance of the Three Nations is before declared, That Sum is a growing Debt on the Commonwealth, and will be due before the End of the Year 332,823 6 4
The whole Debt of the Publick, at present, and before the Year end, is, and will be 2,474,290
That is to say, In the present Debts before-mentioned 1,747,584 5 9
In the growing Debt of the Navy for this present Year 393,882 8
In the Issues this Year, more than the Income 332,823 6 4

Besides what may be due to the Forces in Flanders; of which there is no Account to be had.

Mr. Scawen further reported, That sithence the Stating and Drawing up of this Report, the Committee had received some Papers from Flanders, concerning the Arrears due to the Forces there; which the Committee conceive, upon what they have seen of them, may amount to between Eight and Ten thousand Pounds; which is to be added to the Debt depending upon the Foot of the Accompt now reported.

The House taking notice of the great Pains taken by the Committee who brought in this Report, and of their Faithfulness and Exactness in the Stating of this Accompt; It was

Resolved, &c. That the Thanks of this House be given to Mr. Scawen, and to the rest of the Members of this House of the said Committee, for their great Pains, Care, and Faithfulness in this Service.

Mr. Speaker gave the Thanks of the House to Mr. Scawen, and to the rest of the Members of the House that are of this Committee, they standing up in their Places, respectively.

Resolved, &c. That the Debate, upon this Report, be adjourned until Saturday Morning next; and then taken up again; and that nothing else do then intervene.

Privilege.

The House being informed, That notwithstanding a Protection granted under the Hand and Seal of Mr. Speaker, by special Order of this House, to one Joseph Drew, to appear before the Committee of this House, for Inspection into the Accompts and Publick Revenue; the said Joseph Drew had, in Contempt of the said Protection, been arrested by one Thomas Boulron, one of the Bailiffs to the Sheriff of the County of Middlesex, upon a Bill of Middlesex, at the Suit of one Josiah Ricroft; and was carried Prisoner, by the said Bailiff, to Newgate; and, by colour of the said Arrest, is detained there a Prisoner, by the Keeper of Newgate.

Resolved, &c. That the Keeper of Newgate do bring the Body of Joseph Drew, now Prisoner in his Custody, to the Bar of this House, To-morrow Morning; together with the Causes of his Imprisonment and Detainer.

Resolved, &c. That Thomas Boulron, one of the Bailiffs of the Sheriff of Middlesex, be sent for, in safe Custody, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, for his Contempt, in arresting of Joseph Drew, contrary to the Protection granted to him the said Joseph: And that Mr. Speaker do sign a Warrant, for the Apprehending of the said Thomas Boulron, accordingly.