House of Commons Journal Volume 5
14 December 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 14 December 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 12. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=24967 Date accessed: 24 July 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 14 Decembris, 1646.

Prayers.

Countess of Essex.

ORDERED, That the Ordinance concerning the Thirteen hundred Pounds per Annum, settled by the late Earl of Essex upon the Countess of Essex, be read To-morrow Morning.

Grant for Scotch Army, &c.

According to former Order, made on Saturday last, the House took into Consideration the Paper from the Commissioners of Scotland, reported on Saturday last by Sir Henry Vane junior, concerning the Security of Publick Faith, given to our Brethren of Scotland, for the Payment of the last Two hundred thousand Pounds; concerning the Assistance desired to be given to our Brethren of Scotland, against the Invasion of Scotland by the Irish; and concerning the Payment of their Quarters upon their Marches, and Removes; and the Ease of the Country, upon the Removal of their Forces.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to their former Vote for giving the Publick Faith for Security for Payment of the last Two hundred thousand Pounds to our Brethren of Scotland, according to the Times limited by former Votes.

Mr. Samuel Browne, Mr. Holles, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Sir Arthur Heselrige, Sir Henry Vane junior, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Henry Marten, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Nathaniell Fiennes, Sir William Lewes, Mr. Stephens;

This Committee is appointed to consider of the Scotts Paper concerning the Publick Faith, &c. for Security for Payment of the last Two hundred thousand Pounds; and to consider of the Treaty insisted upon; and to prepare an Answer to the Paper; and to give Reasons for the Houses Adhering; and to shew that by the Treaty, the Parliament of England is not obliged to a further or more particular Security; and that they cannot give a better or greater Security: And that they are to meet when and where they please; and report their Answer with all convenient Speed.

The Second Clause of the Scotts Paper, concerning the Assistance desired by the Scotts Commissioners in the Case of the Invasion of the Kingdom of Scotland by Irish Rebels, was read; and likewise the Clause of the large Treaty, concerning mutual Assistance in Cases of the like Nature; and the Tenth Article of the Treaty, concerning the Assistance demanded of our Brethren of Scotland.

The Question being put, Whether this Clause of the Scotts Paper, concerning the Assistance demanded by them to be given to the Kingdom of Scotland, shall be committed; to consider of the Treaties, and of the Matter of Fact;-Upon the Consideration thereof;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 80.
Sir Walter Erle, With the Yea,
Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wiltes, Tellers for the Noe: 88.
Sir Arth. Haselrige, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the House do take into Consideration, the first Business To-morrow Morning, the Remainder of the Paper from the Scotts Commissioners, reported on Saturday last by Sir Henry Vane junior: And that no other Business whatsoever do intervene.