House of Commons Journal Volume 5
4 January 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 4 January 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 40-41. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=24985 Date accessed: 01 September 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 4 Januarii, 646.

Prayers.

Leave of Absence.

ORDERED, That Mr. Wastall shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Chester Militia, &c.

Mr. Ashurst reports the Amendments and Alterations to the Ordinance concerning regulating, establishing, and maintaining the Forces and Militia of Chester and Cheshire; and settling the Civil Government of that County: The which Amendments and Alterations were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And then the Ordinance, with the Amendments, upon the Question, passed: And it is ordered, so amended, to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Colonel Booth is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Great Seal.

Resolved, &c. That the Great Seal of England shall continue in the Custody of the Commissioners unto whom the same is now committed, for Ten Days longer, after the Expiration of the Time for which it was last continued: And also that the Commission for Hearing of Causes be, in like manner, continued, during the said Time.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Samuel Browne is appointed to carry it to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Lay Preachers.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed, on Thursday last, to receive Complaints against such as preach, not being ordained, do meet this Afternoon at Two of Clock, in the Queen's-Court.

It is further Ordered, That the whole Matter concerning the Complaints against Robert Goffe and Thomas *, be referred to the Examination of this Committee: Who are to meet upon it this Afternoon.

Irish Affairs.

Upon Mr. Robert Goodwin's Report from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland,

It is Resolved, &c. That there be a Sword prepared to be carried before the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; it having always been an Ensign and Authority belonging to all those who have had that Place.

Mr. Robert Goodwyn further reported Instructions for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland: The which were first read all over together; and then one-by-one: The Third and Fourth are respited.

Resolved, &c. That an Ordinance be forthwith prepared, and brought in, for Establishing and Settling the same Form of Church Government in the Kingdom of Ireland, as is or shall be established in the Kingdom of England.

Mr. Crew, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Tate, Mr. Bainton, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Grimston;

This Committee is appointed to prepare, and forthwith to bring in, an Ordinance for Establishing and Settling the same Form of Church Government in the Kingdom of Ireland, as is or shall be established in the Kingdom of England. They are further to consider of some fit Ways and Means for the Advancing and Maintaining a Preaching Ministry in the Kingdom of Ireland: And they, or any Three of them, are appointed to meet this Afternoon at Two of Clock, in the Duchy Chamber.

Resolved, &c. That the Ordinances of Excise and Sequestrations do stand in the Seventh Article of the Instructions for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That what concerns the Fifth and Twentieth Part, shall be left out of the Seventh Article of the Instructions for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That these Words, "and to lay Taxes and Assessments, in a reasonable and moderate Proportion," be added at the End of the Seventh Article of the Instructions for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

Message to Lords.

Sir Wm. Lewes is appointed to acquaint the Lords, That Sir Peter Killegrew is stayed by Order of this House, upon some Matter of Importance, which they will acquaint their Lordships with in convenient time.

The King.

Resolved, &c. That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the House do take into Consideration the Business concerning the King, according to the former Order made on Saturday last, touching that Business: And that no other Business do intervene.

Irish Affairs.

Sir Wm. Lewes reports from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, sitting at Derby House, the Names of sundry Persons to be Privy Counsellors for Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Adam Loftus shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir John Temple shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Wm. Parsons shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir John Borlas shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Valencia shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Robert Meredeth shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir George Shirley shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Inchiquin, Lord President of Munster, shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland: and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Charles Coote, Lord President of Connaght, shall be a Counsellor of State for the Kingdom of Ireland; and shall take such Oath, for the Discharge of that Trust, as shall be approved of by both Houses of the Parliament of England.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Irish Affairs, at Derby House, to consider of, and bring in an Oath, to be approved of by both Houses, to be taken by the Council of State for the Kingdom of Ireland.

Ordered, That out of the Fifteen hundred Pounds of the Irish Monies which came back from Dublyn, and other Monies designed for Ireland, and remaining in the Hands or Disposal of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, the Sum of Three hundred Pounds apiece be paid and advanced to Sir Adam Loftus, Sir John Temple, Sir Wm. Parsons, Sir John Borlas, the Lord Valencia, Sir Robert Meredith, and Sir George Shirley; in case they shall now go over into Ireland; or otherwise, to such of them only as shall go over with the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, to be of the Council of State of the said Kingdom; the said Three hundred Pounds apiece to be for the present Subsistence of such of the said Persons before-named, as shall go over in the said Service.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Wm. Parsons shall have Three hundred Pounds forthwith paid unto him, for the Relief of his present Necessities, out of the Monies remaining of the Five thousand Pounds lately designed for Dublyn: and out of such other Monies appointed for Ireland, as are remaining with the Committee at Derby House.

Resolved, &c. That Sir George Shirley, Sir John Borlas, and Sir Robert Meredith, shall have Three hundred Pounds apiece forthwith paid unto them, out of the Remaider of the Fines and Compositions of the Delinquents this Day presented to the House for Security of the Thirty-one thousand Pounds, borrowed for the Affairs of Ireland, and lent and advanced by the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, after that the said Thirty-one thousand Pounds shall, out of the said Fines, be fully satisfied and paid unto the Committee, so advanced and lent, as aforesaid.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, in case Five of the Persons named to be of the Council of State for the Kingdom of Ireland shall not now go over with the Lord Lieutenant into Ireland, to consider of other fitting Persons to make them up Five, to be of the Council of State there; and to present their Names to this House.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That out of the Fines or Compositions of the Duke of Richmond, Marquis Hertford, Viscount Campden, Sir Wm. Button, Sir Robert Rainsford, Sir Allen Appesley, Sir Wm. Parkhurst, Godfrey Copley, Angell Grey, Sir Edmond Py, Michaell Wharton, Esquire, Wm. Pooley, Esquire, Ralph Eure, Esquire, Sir Paul Neale, and the Lord Seymor of Trobridge, or out of so much of the said Fines or Compositions, as are not, by former Order, disposed of, as well the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds formerly charged upon the Receipts at Goldsmiths Hall, as the Sum of One-and-twenty thousand Pounds sithence charged upon the said Receipts, for the Service of Ireland, shall be secured, and paid to such well-affected Person or Persons, as either already have advanced and lent the said First Ten thousand Pounds, or any Part thereof; or shall advance or lend the same; or likewise the said Sum of One-and-twenty thousand Pounds, or any Part thereof, together with Interest for the same, until every such Sums of Money already advanced, or to be advanced, shall be repaid to the Lenders thereof: And that the said Fines or Compositions of the respective Persons aforesaid, or such Part thereof as is not by former Order already disposed of, as aforesaid, shall not be diverted, or otherwise disposed of, until the said several Sums of Ten thousand Pounds and One-and-twenty thousand Pounds, with Interest for the same, shall be satisfied and paid to such Person and Persons as shall advance and lend the same, or any Part thereof, according to the true Intent and Meaning hereof.

The Question being put, For passing the Instruction, concerning giving Power to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to make Sale of the Rebels Houses within the walled Towns of Ireland;

It passed with the Negative.

All the Instructions reported by Mr. Goodwyn, except those that are respited, and laid aside, with the Alterations and Addititons aforesaid, passed, upon the Question; and were in hæc verba; viz.

Ordered, That such of the Persons named to be of the Council of State for the Kingdom of Ireland, as shall go from hence with the Lord Lieutenant, and be employed there in that Kingdom, shall have the Allowance of Five hundred Pounds per Annum to each of them, for their Subsistence in that Service, until such time as they shall be possessed of their own Estates in that Kingdom.

Waller's Arrears.

The humble Petition of Sir Hardres Waller was this Day read.

A Letter from Sir Thomas Fairfax General, from Oxford, of July 1646, recommending Sir Hardres Waller to the Consideration of the House, was this Day read.

Ordered, That the Sum of Two thousand Pounds be paid by the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, unto Sir Hardres Waller, upon Account, in Part of his Arrears, out of the Fines or Compositions of such Delinquents, not yet disposed of, as he shall nominate to the said Committee: And that the Acquittance of the said Sir Hardres Waller shall be a good Discharge unto the said Committee and Treasurers there, for the Payment of the said Two thousand Pounds accordingly.

Grant to Sidney.

Ordered, That the Sum of Two thousand Pounds be paid to Colonel Sidney, by the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, upon Account, out of the Fines or Compositions of such Delinquents, not yet disposed of, as he shall nominate to the said Committee: And that the Acquittance of the said Colonel Sidney shall be a good Discharge to the said Committee, and the Treasnrers there, for the Payment of the said Two thousand Pounds accordingly.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That the Reports concerning Ulster, and the other Business concerning Ireland, be taken into Consideration on Monday next, the first Business.