Die Lunæ, 29 Martii, 1647.
Leave of Absence.
ORDERED, &c. That Sir Thomas Wroth, a Member
of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.
Resolved, &c. That all the Foot of the Northern Association, excepting such as are appointed to be retained in
the Garisons, be forthwith disbanded.
Resolved, &c. That all the Foot throughout the Kingdom of England, and Dominion of Wales, except such as
are to be kept in the Garisons, and are to be employed in
the Service of Ireland, be forthwith disbanded.
Message from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you a
Minute of a Letter to the King, in Answer of his: They
desire the Concurrence of this House; and that it may be
signed by the Speakers of both Houses: An Ordinance to
enable the Committee of the Northern Association to put
in Execution the Ordinances for Sequestrations: It moved
from this House; and the Lords have agreed to it, with
The Lords desire to put you in mind of an Ordinance
they sent unto you, for putting down all Country Committees; that it hath lain long with this House; and they
desire they will take it into Consideration: They have sent
an Ordinance for Discovery of those that do clip and falsify
Monies and Coins; and desire the Concurrence of this
House: A Petition of the Viscount Hereford: He hath
suffered much for his good Affection to the Parliament;
therefore they do especially recommend it to this House.
They desire to put the House in mind of an Ordinance to
restrain the Killing of Flesh: And likewise of an Ordinance
concerning the Power of the Commissioners for the Chancellorship of the Duchy of Lancaster: of the Lord
Morley's Petition: Of Captain Thompson's Petition.
The Lords have sent unto you a Report from the Committee of the Revenue, for appointing Mr. John Nelthorpe,
a Member of this House, to be Steward of the Manors
of Barton and Barrow in the County of Lincolne: The
Lords have agreed to it; and desire the Concurrence of
this House: An Ordinance for the Settling of a Maintenance for Two Ministers in the City of Bathe: An Ordinance for appointing Mr. Jelenger to be Vicar of Southbrent in the County of Devon: An Ordinance for Mr.
Ameredith, to be Rector of the Church of Landulph in the
County of Cornewall: A Petition of William Johanns, a
Merchant of London; which they especially recommend
unto this House.
The Alterations, sent from the Lords, to the Ordinance
to enable the Committee of the Northern Association to
put in Execution the Ordinances for Sequestrations, were
this Day read; and nothing more done upon them at
Answer to Lords.
Resolved, &c. That, to all the Particulars of this
Message, the Answer shall be, That this House will send
Answer by Messengers of their own.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That, this
House hath considered their Lordships Message; and will
send Answer to all the Particulars of it by Messengers of
Ordered, &c. That the Ordinance concerning the Settling of Preaching Ministers in the City of Bathe, and
all the other Particulars of this Message, be read, and
taken into Consideration on Friday next come Sevennight,
the first Business.
An Ordinance for charging the Sum of Eight hundred
Fifty-seven Pounds Four Shillings Eight-pence upon the
Receipts of the Excise, in Course; and for paying the
same to Colonel John Birch, or his Assignee, with Interest for the same, for the Forbearance thereof, being for
a Month's Pay for Two Troops of Horse, contracted to
be transported by him for the Service of Ireland, was this
Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered
to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ordered, upon the Question, That Colonel John Birch,
a Member of this House, be referred to the Committee
for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom, to take,
state, and certify his Accompts: And herein they may
advise and receive Information from the Knights of the
Shire and Burgesses that serve for Herefordshire, the City,
and Boroughs there.
Resolved, &c. That no Monies be charged upon the
Receipts of the Excise, until the Report of the State of
those Accompts be made; and that the House take further Order; to the end the Monies, coming in upon
those Receipts, may be reserved, to be employed for the
publick Service of the Kingdom of England and Ireland.
Ordered, &c. That, on Wednesday next come Sevennight, the first Business, the whole Business of the Excise
be reported, stated, and taken into Consideration.
According to former Order, the House proceeded to
the Consideration of the Business concerning the Horse,
that is to be kept up in the Kingdom of England.
The Question was propounded, That these Three Regiments, Colonel Poynts', Colonel Bethell's, and Colonel
Copleye's shall be Part of the Five thousand Four hundred
Horse, voted to be kept up in the Kingdom of England.
And the Question being put, Whether this Question
shall be now put;
It passed with the Affirmative.
The Question being put, Whether these three Regiments, Colonel Poynts' Colonel Bethell's, and Colonel
Copleye's, shall be Part of the Five thousand Four hundred Horse, voted to be kept up in the Kingdom of
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
||Tellers for the Yea:
||With the Yea,
||Tellers for the Noe:
||With the Noe,
So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.
Resolved, &c. That these Three Regiments, Colonel
Poynts', Colonel Bethell's, and Colonel Copleye's, shall
be Part of the Five thousand Four hundred Horse, voted
to be kept up in the Kingdom of England.
Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of
the Northern Association, to complete the Regiments,
now voted, out of the Forces, not disbanded, of the Four
Northern Counties, Nottinghamshire, and the adjacent
Counties, in such manner as shall be most for the Service
of the Kingdom: And are to take especial Care, that the
Officers and Soldiers of these Regiments, be such as are
according to the Qualifications: And it is especially referred to this Committee, to take care that these Regiments consist only of English. And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Robinson.
A Letter from Walden, of 27 Martii, 1647, directed
to Colonel Harley, was twice read.
Resolved, &c. That a Letter be sent to the General,
containing the Substance of this Information.
The Question being put, Whether the Second Part of
this Letter, now read by Mr. Speaker, shall be sent to the
It passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That, in this Letter, the General be desired to give Order, That Lieutenant Colonel Pride do
attend this House.
Petitioning by the Army.
A Letter directed to Colonel Rosseter, of 28 Martii,
at Noon, signed H. with a Paper inclosed, styled, "The
Heads of a Petition, endeavoured to be obtruded, as the
Sense of the Army, delivered in to Colonel Rosseter," was
this Day read.
Resolved, &c. That Thanks be given to Colonel Rosseter and Colonel Harley, for these timely Informations.
Mr. Speaker accordingly did give them Thanks.
Ordered, &c. That Colonel Rosseter do send his Major
down to his Regiment; and acquaint them, That this
House takes well the Carriage of the Officers and Soldiers,
in not engaging in the Petition; but gave Notice of their
Dislike thereof: And that he inform them, the Sense this
House has of that Petition; and the Order they have
taken for stopping any further Proceedings upon the
Petition in the Army.
Resolved, &c. That the General be desired to give Order, That Colonel Hammond, Lieutenant General Hamond,
Colonel Lilbourne, and Lieutenant Colonel Grimes, do
attend the House.
Resolved, &c. That the Serjeant do give Notice to
Colonel Riche, that he do attend the Committee appointed to examine the Proceedings upon the Petition
informed to be carrying on in the Army.
Ordered, &c. That the Committee for the Petition, informed to be carrying on in the Army, shall have Power
to examine Commissary General Ireton.
Mr. Holles, Mr. Tate, Mr. Swinfen, Col. Birch, are
appointed to prepare a Declaration, upon the Debate now
had in the House; and to present it to the House Tomorrow Morning.
Resolved, &c. That the Informations given to the
House, concerning the Petition that is carrying on in the
Army, and the Votes and Proceedings thereupon, be communicated to the Lords, at a Conference, To-morrow
Morning: And Sir Robert Harley is appointed to go to
the Lords, to desire the Conference.
Resolved, &c. That Serjeant Major General Skippon be
sent to, forthwith to come up to the Army: And it is left
to Serjeant Major General Skippon to depute one in his
Place, to take the Charge of Newcastle and Tynmouth,
until both Houses take further Order.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That the Monies in the Hands of Mr.
Berry, Treasurer for the County of Lincolne, that are
levied, and such as are to be levied in that County, upon
any of the Ordinances of Parliament, except the Monies
for Ireland, be, by the said Mr. Berry, paid over to Colonel Rossitour's Regiment, upon Muster, towards Satisfaction of the Arrears of that Regiment, and other Troops,
late under his Command, and Pay of Quarters for Man
Person to attend.
Resolved, &c. That Lieutenant Griffith Lloyd be forthwith sent for to attend this House.
Army for Ireland.
Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for
the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to draw out such of
the Army as shall engage to go for Ireland, from the rest
of the Army, into a Body, as they shall think fit: And
that Direction be given to the General, That the other
Regiments of the Army may be laid further asunder, for
the Ease of the Country: And that a Stop may be given
to such Regiments as are ordered to march nearer to the
Petitioning by the Army.
Ordered, &c. That the General, in the Letter appointed
to be sent unto him, be acquainted with the Substance
of the Information given to the House, in the Letter of
Resolved, &c. That Ten Pounds be bestowed upon
the Messenger that brought the Letter to Colonel Rossiter, from his Regiment; and paid by the Treasurers at
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, &c. That Sir Charles Egerton, a Member of
this House shall have Leave to go into the Country.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Knightley, a Member of this
House shall have Leave to go into the Country.
Dispatch of Letters, &c.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Walter Frost, Secretary to the
Committee at Derby House, do dispatch away all such
Letters and Dispatches as shall be ordered to be signed
by Mr. Speaker, by such Messengers as belong to that
Resolved, &c. That the Declaration appointed to be
prepared, and now brought in, shall be now read.
Mr. Holles reported the Declaration: The which was
first read by himself, and then by the Clerk; and, upon
the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto
the Lords for their Concurrence.
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Message to Lords.
Sir Robert Harley carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order for charging the Sum of Six thousand Seven hundred and Forty Pounds upon the Receipts
at Goldsmiths Hall, for the discharging and transporting
Colonel Birche's Foot, and Two Troops of his Horse,
into Ireland: An Order for charging upon the Receipts
of the Excise the Sum of Eight hundred Fifty-seven
Pounds Four Shillings and Eight-pence upon the Receipts
of the Excise, for a Month's Pay for Colonel Birche's
Troops, after they shall be on Shipboard: An Order for
charging the Sum of Five hundred Pounds upon Goldsmiths Hall, in Course, to be paid to Major Samuel Birche,
in Part of his Arrears: An Order for Pardon of the Delinquency, and taking off the Sequestration, of Sir John
Bridges' Estate, Real and Personal: An Order for Pardon of the Delinquency, and taking off the Sequestration,
of Dr. Aldern's Estate, Real and Personal: An Order for
Pardon of the Delinquency, and taking off the Sequestration, of Mr. Rodd's Estate, Real and Personal.