House of Commons Journal Volume 5
30 March 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 30 March 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 129-131. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25057 Date accessed: 31 August 2014.


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Die Martis, 30 Martii, 1647.

Prayers.

Wingfield's Delinquency.

AN Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Sir Richard Wingfield, of Tickenwate in the County of Rutland, Knight, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Halford's Delinquency.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Sir Richard Halford of Wistow, in the County of Leicester, Knight and Baronet, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Thorold's Delinquency.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Sir Robert Thorold, of Barrowby in the County of Lincoln, Knight, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Newton's Delinquency.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto John Newton, of Haver, in the County of Lincoln, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Audley's Delinquency.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Wheathill Audley, of Woodhurst in the County of Huntingdon, Gentleman, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Dr. Williams Delinquency.

Mr. Recorder reported an Ordinance, for granting a Pardon unto John Williams, Doctor of Divinity, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate: The which was read: And this Clause; videlicet, "and the Allotment of Forty Pounds per Annum, out of the Impropriation of Hartford in the County of Huntington;" being added; the Ordinance was, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Capture by Pirates.

A Paper from St. Malo, of 26 Martii, 1647, informing, That those of Jersey have taken a Fly Boat, sent from the Parliament for Ireland, wherein were Fifty great Bales of Drapery, and Habits for Six thousand Men, was read.

Ordered, That Mr. Green and Sir John Clotworthy do forthwith withdraw, and prepare a Letter to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent from the Parliament to the French King, for Stay and Release of the Fly Boat, sent by the Parliament towards Ireland; and of the Ammunition, Soldiers Cloaths, and Cloth, therein laden: Which said Ship, Soldiers, and Cloth, as is informed, hath been taken at Sea, by some Pirates of Jersey, carried away, and at present remains within the Dominions of the French King.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Irish Affairs, or any Four of them, to examine the whole Business concerning the Loss of the Fly Boat, sent with Ammunition and Cloth towards Ireland: And to inquire and find out, Whether there were any Practice, or Combination, with the Master, or any other Person, for the Betraying of the said Vessel.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Admiralty, to take care that Shipping may attend the Coast of Wales, and the Passage between Bristoll and Ireland, to prevent the taking of Merchants Ships, and other Ships, trading in those Seas.

Jersey.

Ordered, That the Report concerning the Island of Jersey be made on this Day Sevennight, at Ten of the Clock: And that the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do bring in the Report concerning Jersey, formerly referred to their Consideration, on the same Day.

Letter read.

A Letter from Salisbury, from Colonel Thistlethwayte, Mr. Ditton, and Mr. Robert Good, directed to Mr Holles, dated the 27th of March, 1647, was this Day read; and was, concerning a printed Petition, directed "To the Right honourable and supreme Authority of this Nation the Commons, in Parliament assembled;" to which Hands were endeavoured to be gotten.

Conference desired with Lords.

Sir Robert Harley went to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, as soon as it may stand with the Lords Conveniency, concerning some Informations, of very great Consequence, which this House hath received concerning the Army; and some Votes thereupon made; and also some Votes concerning Ireland; which they desire to communicate unto them.

London Militia.

An Ordinance, sent from the Lords, for enabling the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council, of the City of London, to nominate such Persons as they shall think fit, once every Year, for the Militia of the City of London, and Liberties thereof, was this Day read the First and Second time.

Conference.

Mr. Holles, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir Wm. Lewes, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Embassy from Holland.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Serjeant Finch and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords sent you, the last Week, a Letter, and a Desire of the Dutch Ambassador's: They agreed to it; and desire your Concurrence in it: They desire you will take it into speedy Consideration, if it may stand with your Occasions.

Ordered, That the Letter and Desires of the Dutch Ambassador, sent from the Lords the last Week, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of foreign Affairs; who are to report their Opinions thereupon on Friday Morning next.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message; and will take the same into speedy Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Harley brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Particulars of the Message carried unto them Yesterday, except the Two Orders for pardoning the Delinquency, and taking off the Sequestrations of the Estates, Real and Personal, of Mr. Rodd and Dr. Aldern: And, as to the Message this Day carried by him concerning a Conference, the Lords do agree unto it, as is desired.

Raising Money.

Resolved, &c. That the Grand Committee of the whole House; appointed to take into Consideration the Ordinance for raising the monthly Sum of Sixty thousand Pounds, for the Service of England and Ireland, do meet this Afternoon at Two of Clock.

London Militia.

Resolved, &c. That, on Thursday Morning next, after the Business of Ireland, if it may be, the Debate of the Ordinance concerning the Militia of the City of London, now read the First and Second time, be resumed: If it cannot then be, That the Debate of this Ordinance be resumed on Friday Morning next, the first Business: And that nothing do intervene.

House to return.

Resolved, That this House do return, after the Conference.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That they do concur with you in the Declaration, and in the several Votes and Orders delivered to them at the last Conference. They desire you to consider of and give some Answer to a former Conference which their Lordships had with you, concerning the Army. They have sent you a Minute of a Letter to the General: Whereunto the Concurrence of this House is desired; and that it may be signed by the Speakers of both Houses.

The Minute of the Letter was read.

And the Question being put, For agreeing with the Lords in the said Letter;

It passed with the Negative.

Answer.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the Minute of the Letter, and the giving Answer to the Particulars of the former Conference with the Lords, concerning the Army, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Loan from the City.

Resolved, &c. That Two hundred thousand Pounds be forthwith borrowed, for the Service of England and Ireland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That a Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to treat with the City of London, for the Borrowing of this Two hundred thousand Pounds.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir John Clotworthy is to carry these Votes to the Lords, on Thursday Morning next.

Votes, &c. communicated to Lords.

Memorandum, That these Votes, Informations, and Declaration, were communicated unto the Lords at the last Conference; videlicet, being the Heads, as followeth,

1. Votes of the 6th of March, 1647.

2. The Result at Walden, of 21 Martii, 1646.

3. The Result of 22 Martii 1646.

4. Engagement of the Officers for Ireland.

5. The Petition.

6. Colonel Harlie's Letter.

7. Colonel Rosseter's Letter.

8. Letter from the Speaker to the General.

9. Declaration of both Houses.

10. Vote to draw out, into a Body, the Forces that shall be willing to go for Ireland; and the rest to be quartered wider.

11. For Major General Skippon to come to the Army.

12. Ten Pounds to Colonel Rosseter's Messenger.