House of Commons Journal Volume 5
13 April 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 13 April 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 139-141. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25065 Date accessed: 03 September 2014.


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Die Martis, 13 Aprilis, 1647.

Prayers.

Loan for reducing Newcastle.

ORDERED, by the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, That all such Persons as have lent the Sum of Six thousand Three hundred Sixty-eight Pounds One Shilling and One Peny, upon the Ordinance and Propositions for the reducing the Town of Newcastle to the Obedience of the Parliament, and are not yet reimbursed the same, be paid and satisfied what they have so disbursed and lent, with Interest, at Eight Pounds per Cent. for so long time as the same hath been, or shall be, forborn, in Course, out of the Receipts of Fines and Compositions of Delinquents, made and to be made at Goldsmiths Hall: And the Commissioners there have hereby Power, and are ordered, to issue their Warrants to the Treasurers to pay the same, from time to time, accordingly.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Thanks from both Houses be rendered to Alderman Adams, Treasurer, appointed for receiving and issuing the Monies brought in upon the Propositions for reducing Newcastle, for his Pains in that Service.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Four Shillings by the Chaldron, laid upon Newcastle Coals, and Sunderland, and other Members belonging to the Port of Newcastle, for such Coals as are transported from Port to Port in the Kingdom, be clearly discharged, from the Five-and-twentieth of March last: And is hereby taken off, and clearly discharged.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Wm. Roe and Mr. John Peutenger be referred to the Auditors of the Prests, to state and certify their several Accompts, about the Monies raised upon the Coals vended at Sunderland, to the Committee of the Revenue, and to the Committee of the Navy: Who are to consider of the same; and to report them to the House.

Conference.

Ordered, That Mr. Rous and Mr. Wheeler do report the late Conference with the Lords, concerning the Ordinance for settling the University of Oxon; and the taking away the Country Committees; the first Business, To-morrow Morning.

Irish Affairs.

A Letter from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, from Cork, of 12 Martii 1646; a Brief of the Proceedings of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, in the Settling of the Province of Munster, after his Arrival there; delivered by Sir Arthur Loftus to Mr. Speaker, as Mr. Speaker informed the House; and likewise a Letter from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, from Corke, of 5 Aprilis 1647; were all this Day read.

Ordered, That these Letters from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; the Paper delivered to Mr. Speaker by Sir Arthur Loftus; the Propositions tendered by Colonel Jephson; and the Informations concerning the Forces that lie grievous and burdensome upon the Countries; be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House: Who are to report their Opinions to the House: And likewise to inform the House of such Obstructions as they shall meet with in the Dispatch of the Affairs referred unto them.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Sallway carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, an Ordinance for Reimbursement . . such Persons, as have advanced any Monies for Reducing of Newcastle: Order for Three hundred Pounds out of Haberdashers Hall, to the Gentlemen sent out of Ireland to this Parliament; And was to desire the Lords to concur, that the Members of both Houses that are of That Committee, do take care that the said Order may be forthwith complied with: The Qualifications for such Officers as are to command in the Forces that are to be kept up in England: The several Regiments of Horse to be continued: The Garisons to be continued: the Commanders of the Garisons: The Garisons to be slighted.

He was further to desire the Lords to concur, That Thanks be returned to Alderman Adams, appointed Treasurer for the Monies upon the Propositions for reducing Newcastle: And was to desire the Lords to sit awhile.

Irish Affairs.

Resolved, &c. That the Report from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House shall be now made.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Sallwey brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for reimbursing such as have lent any Monies upon the Propositions for reducing Newcastle; and that Alderman Adams, appointed Treasurer for those Monies, have the Thanks of both Houses for his Service therein: To the Order for Three hundred Pounds for the Gentlemen that came from Ireland, they do agree; and that the Committee do presently pay it: To the rest they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Design against Parliament.

Ordered, That Sir Walter Erle, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Pury, and Mr. Gourdon, do presently go forth to examine an Information that is given, concerning some Design against the Parliament.

Navy Commissioner.

Ordered, That, at the next Message, the Lords be desired to expedite their Answer, concerning Mr. John Bence, being a Commissioner of the Navy.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylet;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you these Three Reports from the Committee for Irish Affairs, sitting at Derby House: One, that Colonel Sheffield offers himself, with his Regiment, to go into Ireland; which the Lords have agreed unto; and desire the Concurrence of this House: The Second, for Coats to be provided for the Foot Soldiers of the Army that are to go into Ireland; which the Lords refer to the Consideration of this House: The Third, concerning Captain Howard, who offers himself likewise to go into Ireland; and the Lords think fit, in respect of his good Services, that he should have a Regiment of Horse; and desire the Concurrence of this House:-An Ordinance for the Payment of Four thousand Pounds to the Mayor and Burgesses of Gloucester: It moved first from this House; and the Lords have agreed unto it, with one Addition.

The Lords desire to put this House in mind of the Ordinance, concerning the Militia of London; and desire this House to take it into Consideration.

The Lords are resolved to fit this Afternoon at Four of Clock; with which they thought fit to acquaint this House.

Col. Sheffield.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords, in approving and accepting Colonel Sheffield's Offer to go himself in Person, with his Regiment, in the Service of Ireland.

Capt. Howard.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords, That, in respect of the good Services of Captain Howard, that he shall have a Regiment of Horse in the Service of Ireland.

Gloucester.

The Saving, sent from the Lords, to the Ordinance, concerning Four thousand Pounds for Gloucester, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do approve of Colonel Sheffield's Offer: do agree that Captain Howard be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse in the Service of Ireland; and to the Saving sent to the Ordinance, concerning the Four thousand Pounds for Gloucester: Do take Notice of the Lords Sitting this Afternoon at Four of Clock: To the rest they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Army for Ireland.

Upon Mr. Holles' Reports from the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House, for the Affairs of Ireland;

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of Colonel Sheffield's Offer of his Regiment, for the Service of Ireland, and to go with them himself in Person to that Service.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Committee, That the Establishment for the Officers and Soldiers now in Ireland, and to go over thither, shall be the same with that of Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army: And that the same Proportion of Pay, which was respited, upon the Publick Faith, to Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army, shall now also be respited for the present, and made good unto them out of the Rebels Lands, by English Measure, according to the Rates and Proportions settled by Act of Parliament, upon the Finishing of the War, after Satisfaction shall be first given to the Adventurers.

Resolved, &c. That Coats and Knapsacks shall be provided, over and above their Pay, for the Foot Soldiers of the Army that are to go for Ireland, for their better Encouragement.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve and accept of Captain Howard's Offer, to go in the Service for Ireland, with as many of the Regiment he served in, as he can get, to go with him.

Resolved, &c. That the Proportions following are fit Proportions of Pay for the Officers of Horse that are to continue in this Kingdom.

£. s. d. per diem.
Colonel, As Colonel, - 12 - £. s. d.
Four Horses, - 8 - 1 10 -
As Captain, - 10 -
Major, As Major, - 5 -
Three Horses, - 6 - 1 1 -
As Captain, - 10 -
Captain, - 10 - - 14 -
Two Horses, - 4 -
Lieutenant, - 5 4 - 9 4
Two Horses, - 4 -
Cornet, - 4 -
Two Horses, - 4 - - 8 -
Two Horses, - 4 -
Quartermaster, - 4 - - 6 -
One Horse, - 2 -
Provost Marshal, - 3 4 - 7 4
Two Men, - 4 -
Corporals and Trumpets, each - 2 6 - 5 -

Resolved, &c. That the Proportions following are fit Proportions for the Officers of Foot, that are to continue in this Kingdom:

per diem, s. d.
Captains, - 8 -
Lieutenants, - 4 -
Ensigns, - 2 6
Serjeants, - - 12
Drummers, - - 12
Corporals, - - 12

Resolved, &c. That there shall be no Officer within any Garison above a Captain, but only the Governor.

Resolved, &c. That there shall be no Company in any Garison under the Number of One hundred, where there is above one Company in that Garison.

Resolved, &c. That the Governors of Pendennis, Chester, Plymouth, Hull, Gloucester, Leverpoole, Lyn, Newcastle, Portesmouth, shall have, for their Pay, Twelve Shillings as Governor, and Eight Shillings as Captain.

Resolved, &c. That the Governors of Weymouth, Tynmouth Castle, the Castle and great Fort of Bristoll, shall have each of them Seven Shillings as Governor, Eight Shillings as Captain.

Resolved, &c. That all such Garisons as have Fifty Foot and under, their Governors to have Five Shillings per diem only: The rest of the Garisons not named, that have above Fifty, the Governor to have Ten Shillings per diem as Governor and Captain.

Resolved, &c. That as many of the Dragoons of the Army as can be persuaded to go for the Service of Ireland may receive Order for that Purpose.

Resolved, &c. That the Officers that shall go for Ireland, may have their Debentures for their Arrears: And that their Accompts shall be made up, according to their Musters, in their Absence.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to consider of, prepare, and bring in, an Establishment for every of the Garisons, particularly, that are to be continued in this Kingdom.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Whereas Three hundred Men are, by the former Vote, said to be continued in Portland: It is Ordered, That Five hundred Men only shall be continued there.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the House do take into Consideration the Business concerning the Propositions, according to the former Orders in that Business.

London Petition.

Ordered, That on Thursday Morning next, the House do take into Consideration the Petition from divers Citizens of London, with the Certificate annexed, to the Committee where Colonel Leigh has the Chair.

Message to Lords.

Ordered, That Mr. Holles do carry to the Lords, this Afternoon at Four of Clock, the Message he was appointed to carry this Day: And is likewise to put the Lords in mind of an Ordinance, formerly sent from this House, concerning Mr. John Bence, to be one of the Commissioners of the Navy.

Redemption of Captives.

A Letter from Three of the Scotts Commissioners, from Worcester House, dated 13 Aprilis 1647, was this Day read; and was concerning such of the Scotts Nation as are Captives in Algier. And

It is thereupon Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to take care for the Redemption of such of the Scotts Nation as are Captives in Algier, and were taken in the Service of English Merchants.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to treat with the Scotts Commissioners concerning the Redemption of such of the Scotts Nation as are Captives in Algier, and were not taken in the Service of any English Merchants; and to acquaint them, That Instructions shall be given to the Agent employed thither from the Kingdom of England, to negotiate that Business also.

Williams' Petition.

Upon Mr. Holles' Report from the Committee for Irish Affairs, at Derby House, of the Petition of one Captain Reeve Williams;

It is Ordered, That the said Petition, and the Paper annexed, be referred back to the said Committee; to consider of, and settle the Petitioner's Desires, therein contained, in such manner as they shall think fit.