Die Jovis, 15 Aprilis, 1647.
Prayers.
Ordinances to be read.
ORDERED, &c. That the Ordinance in the Hands
of Mr. Lisle, concerning Lieutenant General Cromwell;
and the Ordinance in the Hand of Mr. Whitelocke, concerning the Officers of the Court of Wards; be read on
Tuesday Morning next, the first Business.
Castles in Wales.
Ordered, &c. That the Letter appointed to be sent from
the House, and signed by Mr. Speaker, concerning the
Slighting and Demolishing of the Castles of North Wales,
be prepared by Mr. Recorder: And that Sir Wm. Middleton, the present Governor of Denbigh Castle, shall have
the Materials of the Works about the Castle, and of the
Buildings and Castle, to be slighted and demolished, upon
Account, towards the Satisfaction of the Arrears due
upon his Entertainment.
Letter to be read.
Resolved, &c. That the Letter from Major General
Skippon, shall be read To-day at Eleven of Clock.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Barrow, a Member of this
House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.
Oxford University, &c.
Mr. Wheeler reports the Conference had with the Lords
on Friday last, concerning the Ordinance for regulating the
University of Oxon, and concerning Country Committees: That the Earl of Manchester said, That the Lords
out of a Desire to concur with the House of Commons,
and for the Speeding of this Ordinance, do recede from
all Additions, but only the Names: The Reason is, because otherwise, there would bean Inequality: And whereas
there is a different Number in Committees, in them the
Voting is apart; each House voting for itself, and the
one not binding the other.
As to that Part concerning Country Committees, the
Earl of Manchester said, viz.
The Lords have long since desired your Concurrence,
for the taking away of the Committees now settled in the
several Counties: To the which they are now pressed further to urge your speedy Agreement; in regard of the
great Cries that come to their Ears from all Parts of the
Kingdom, where divers Persons lie under very great
Pressures, by reason of the Partiality and Injustice that is
used by those Committees: They are very sensible of the
great Odium that this hath brought upon the Parliament;
and how far it may alienate the Hearts of the Generality
of the Kingdom from them, if such an arbitrary Power
shall be still continued; from which the Hope of being
delivered, hath been one of the chiefest Motives for the
Engaging of their Lives and Fortunes in this dangerous
and expensive War: And it would be now the more grievous unto the Kingdom, because that which was submitted
unto in Time of War, as necessary, will now appear to
be a continued Pressure; only the Benefit of some private Persons, without any considerable Advantage to the
State: The Lords having offered a Means, which they
conceive will be of more Advantage to the Parliament,
and more satisfactory to the Kingdom; they desire your
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to their
former Vote, concerning the Addition of Names, in the Ordinance concerning the regulating the University of Oxon.
Mr. Selden, Mr. Rouse, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Wheeler,
Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Whitlocke, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Scotts, Mr.
Hoskins;
This Committee, or any Three of them, are appointed
to prepare Reasons to be offered to the Lords at a free
Conference, for adhering to their Vote, concerning their
Addition of Names, in the Ordinance for regulating the
University of Oxon: And are to bring them in To-morrow
Morning. And a Conference is to be desired To-morrow
Morning, upon the Business.
Mr. Strode is appointed to desire this Conference.
Universities.
Ordered, &c. That the Committee formerly appointed
for the University of Oxon be revived; and do meet this
Afternoon at Two of Clock, in the usual Place: And
that they do consider of a fit and competent Maintenance,
for the Heads and Masters of the Colleges and Halls of
both the Universities of this Kingdom: And where and
how such a settled competent Maintenance may be raised;
and report their Opinions to this House.
Monuments at Oxford.
Resolved, &c. That the Monuments erected in Christ
Church in Oxon, for Sir Wm. Penyman and Sir Henry
Gage, be defaced and demolished; and likewise all other
Monuments erected in the University or City of Oxon,
that are any ways scandalous or reproachful to the Parliament, or the Proceedings thereof: And the Proctors of
the University of Oxon are hereby required and enjoined,
to see all such Monuments of Scandal and Reproach to the
Parliament . . . . . . . . And the Burgesses that serve
for the University of Oxon, are ordered to send this
Order to the Proctors of the University, accordingly.
Country Committees.
Resolved, &c. That the next Day after that the Time
allotted for the Business of the Church shall be expired,
That the Report and Business concerning Country Committees be taken into Consideration.
Late Bishops.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee formerly appointed
to consider of Maintenance for the late Bishops, or any
Five of them, do meet this Afternoon at Two of the
Clock, in the usual Place; and so de die in diem, till they
have dispatched: And that they do consider from whence,
and how, this Maintenance shall be raised: And they are
to report their Opinions concerning all the late Bishops
together: And are to report with all convenient Speed.
London Militia.
Mr. Gott reports from the Committee the Additions
and Amendments to the Ordinance concerning the Militia of the City of London, formerly sent from the
Lords: The which were twice read.
The Question being put, Whether these Words, "And
all other Places within the Line of Communication and
weekly Bills of Mortality," shall be added in this Ordinance;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
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Sir Phillip Stapleton, |
Tellers for the Yea: |
81. |
| Mr. Recorder, |
With the Yea, |
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Sir John Danvers, |
Tellers for the Noe: |
61. |
| Sir Arth. Haselrige, |
With the Noe, |
So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.
The Amendments were put to the Question; and,
upon the Question, assented unto.
A Proviso was tendered to be added unto this Ordinance, for the Powers granted by this Ordinance not to
be put in Execution, until the Five-and-twentieth Day of
December next: The which was read the First time.
And the Question being put, for reading it the Second
time;
It passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the
Lords in this Ordinance thus amended: And that this
Concurrence with the Lords in this Ordinance be communicated to the Lords at the Conference To-morrow
Morning.
Mr. Recorder, Mr. Gott, Sir John Maynard, Colonel
Harvey, are appointed Managers of this Conference.
Irish Affairs.
Ordered, upon the Question, That the Members of this
House, that are of the Committee for the Affairs of
Ireland, sitting in . . . Star Chamber, do sign such Warrants
for issuing Monies for the Service of Dublyn, as are or
shall be ordered by the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland sitting at Derby House: And that the Lords be desired to give the like Power and Injunction to the Members
of their House, that are of the said Committee for the
Affairs of Ireland, in the Star Chamber.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Hollis is appointed to go to the Lords with this
Message; and to desire a Conference concerning the
Ordinance for the Militia of the City of London.
Proceedings against Devereux.
The House being informed, That a Gentleman, one
Mr. George Devereux, sat and voted in the House, against
whom there were great and grievous Charges; and that
he had taken the Lord Capell's Protestation and Oath;
And Copies of the Depositions of Richard Morris, of
Poole in the County of Mountgomery, Gentleman, aged
about Forty-three Years, sworn and examined at Redd
Castle, 11 Novembris 1646; of Lloyd Pierce Esquire,
of Edward Lloyd, of Trefuant in the County of Mountgomery, Esquire, taken before the Committee at Redd
Castle; 13 Novembris 1646; the Deposition of the Lord
Powis; the Deposition of Wm. Edwards, of Llanhangell,
taken before the Committee at Redd Castle, 16 Novembris; were all read: And likewise, a Copy of the Lord
Capell's Protestation and Oath.
It was further informed, That the said Mr. George
Devereux stands actually sequestered.
Resolved, &c. That the Examination of this whole Business be referred to the Committee formerly appointed for
the Business concerning Mr. Vaughan: And they are to
examine and Report this Business, and likewise the Business
concerning Mr. Vaughan, on Tuesday next.
The Question was propounded, That Mr. George Devereux be suspended from the House, till the Report of
this Business be made.
And the Question being put, Whether this Question
shall be now put;
It passed with the Affirmative.
The Question being put, Whether Mr. George Devereux shall be suspended from the House, till the Report
of this Business be made;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
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Mr. Holles, |
Tellers for the Noe: |
45. |
| Sir Edward Hungerford, |
With the Noe, |
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Sir Wm. Brereton, |
Tellers for the Yea: |
60. |
| Sir Henry Mildemay, |
With the Yea, |
So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.