House of Commons Journal Volume 5
21 April 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 21 April 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 148-151. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25070 Date accessed: 02 October 2014.


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Die Mercurii, 21 Aprilis, 1647.

Prayers.

Earl of Warwick.

THE humble Petition of Robert Earl of Warwick was this Day read.

Lord Riche's Delinquency.

The humble Petition of Robert Lord Riche, directed to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, was this Day read.

The Question was propounded, That Robert Lord Riche be referred to the Commissioners at Goldsmiths Hall, to compound for his Delinquency:

And the Question being put, Whether this Addition should be made to the Question, "That the Committee shall report, before any Part of the Fine be paid in;"

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 59.
Sir Wm. Lewes, With the Yea,
Sir Richard Lucy, Tellers for the Noe: 68.
Sir Tho. Middleton, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That Robert Lord Riche be referred to the Commissioners at Goldsmiths Hall, to compound for his Delinquency.

Issue for Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That Arthur Anisly Esquire, Sir Robert Kinge, and Sir Robert Meredith Knights, Commissioners, appointed to receive Dublyn, or any Two of them, shall have Power to dispose and issue out Thirteen thousand Pounds, now at Chester, Part of the Five-and-thirty thousand Eight hundred Seventy-seven Pounds Fourteen Shillings and Nine-pence, appointed by the Three several Ordinances of Parliament, of the Three-and-twentieth of February, and Second of March last, to be paid out of the Receipts of Goldsmiths Hall for the Service of Dublyn, in such manner as the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House, have, by their Order, directed, or shall hereafter direct: And that Mr. Loftus, Deputy Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, or Mr. Walley, his Agent at Chester, do, for that Purpose, pay that Sum of thirteen thousand Pounds to those Commissioners, or such as they shall appoint to receive the same.

Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Part of the Thirty-five thousand Eight hundred Seventy-seven Pounds Fourteen Shillings Nine-pence, designed for the Service of Dublyn, is further remaining, and not yet disposed of, or applied to that Service, shall be issued by the Orders and Directions of the Committee of Lords and Commons at Derby House: And that Mr. Loftus, Deputy Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, or such others as have the Custody thereof, shall issue and pay the same accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Holles is appointed to carry to the Lords the Votes, that passed Yesterday, upon the Proposition for borrowing Two hundred thousand Pounds: The Return of the Common Council, concerning that Proposition upon which those Votes are grounded.

He likewise carried the Votes concerning the Issuing of Thirteen thousand Pounds to the Commissioners appointed to receive Dublyn; and to enable the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland to dispose and issue the Remainder of the Monies assigned for Dublyn: The Vote, in way of Declaration, concerning the Sale of Chapels belonging to Bishops Palaces, together with the Palaces: Order for Disposing of a Rent reserved, of Thirty Pounds per Annum, upon a Tenement in Derbyshire, payable to the Earl of Newcastle, now in Sequestration, unto Mr. Hallowes, a Member of this House: The Votes concerning the Removing some Obstructions in Church Government: The Vote for Addition of some Ministers, as Triers, in some Classes in the Province of London: The Ordinance for allowing a Salary to the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall: And is to desire the Lords, That the Committee of their House, appointed to judge of Scandal, may meet with the Committee of this House.

Buckingham Arrears.

An Ordinance for authorizing the collecting and levying, within the County of Bucks, the Monies appointed to be levied and collected by the Act of Four hundred thousand Pounds, although the same were not collected within the Time limited within the said Act, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Peck.

Ordered, &c. That the Report of the Business concerning Mr. Peck, a Member of this House, be made on Tuesday Morning next, the first Business.

Ly. Riche's Sequestration.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Samuell Browne do make Report of the Business that passed at the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, concerning the Sequestration of the Estate of the Lord Riche's Lady.

Propositions to the King.

Mr. Lisle reports the Instructions for the Commissioners at Holdenby to present the Propositions to the King; and to desire his Answer: The which were read.

Resolved, &c. That the Number of the Quorum, in these Instructions, shall be Five.

Propositions to the King.

Resolved, &c. That the Time that the Committee shall expect the King's Answer, shall be Ten Days.

The Instructions were, one by one, read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence; and were in hæc verba; viz.

Instructions for Philip Earl of Pembroke and Mountgomery, Basil Earl of Denbigh, Edward Lord Mountague, Sir John Holland Baronet, Sir Walter Erle, Sir John Cooke, Sir James Harrington, Knights, John Crew and Richard Browne Esquires, or any Five of them, appointed Committees of both Houses of the Parliament of England, to join with the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland, to present to the King's Majesty the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, and to receive his Majesty's Answer thereupon.

You are to observe the Instructions following:

YOU, or any Five of you, shall present to the King, at Holdenby, from the Lords and Commons, assembled in the Parliament of England, the Propositions, herewith sent unto you, for a safe and well-grounded Peace, agreed upon by the Two Houses of the Parliament of England, and by the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland.

You, or any Five of you, are to desire from the King his positive Answer and Consent to the said Propositions.

You are to repair, with all Diligence and Speed, to the Parliament at Westminster, as soon as you shall have received the said Answer from his Majesty: In Expectation of the said Answer, you are not to make Stay, above the Space of Ten Days, next after you shall receive these Instructions: But the said Time of Ten Days being expired, you are forthwith, without any Delay, to repair to the Parliament of England, to give them an Account of your Proceedings.

Mr. Lisle further reported an Addition to be made to the Propositions to be presented to the King, concerning the Sale and Disposal of the Bishops Lands: The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and was in hæc verba; viz.

That the several Ordinances, the one intituled, An Ordinance of Parliament for abolishing of Archbishops and Bishops within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales; and for Setting of their Lands and Possessions upon Trustees for the Use of the Commonwealth; the other intituled, An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, for appointing the Sale of the Bishops Lands for the Use of the Commonwealth; be confirmed by Act of Parliament.

The Lords Concurrence . . be desired herein.

Ordered, &c. That the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do confer with the Commissioners of Scotland, concerning their joining with the Committees appointed by both Houses, for the procuring the King's Answer to the Propositions, according to the former Resolutions.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Bishops Lands.

Mr. Holles is appointed to carry to the Lords the Instructions, and the additional Proposition, concerning the Sale of the Bishops Lands.

Ordered, &c. That, the Committee to whom the Instructions for the Committees at Holdenby to procure the King's Answer was referred, do prepare and bring in the Propositions, and the Ordinances concerning the Sale of the Bishops Lands, on Friday Morning next.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Orders for the Disposing of the Sum of Thirty-five thousand Eight hundred Seventy-seven Pounds Fourteen Shillings Nine-pence, designed by several Ordinances for the Service of Dublyn, by the Committee at Derby House for the Affairs of Ireland: To the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, &c. That, Sir Christopher Yelverton, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Reports, &c. deferred.

Ordered, &c. That the Reports concerning the Ships to Algier be made To-morrow Morning, the first Business: And that the whole Business of the Excise. according to the Order for this Day, be then taken into Consideration peremptorily.

Steward's Claims.

An Ordinance for reimbursing to William Steward Esquire Monies borrowed of him, out of the Receipts of the Grand Excise, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Messengers Arrears.

The humble Petition of the Messengers attending the Committee of both Kingdoms; subscribed Edward Newman, Robert Hanbery, John Preistley, John Arnold, Theodore Jennings, John Crips, William Binding, Robert Sherwood, Thomas Bulmer; was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Committee of the Revenue do forthwith pay unto the Petitioners their several and respective Arrears, as shall appear to be due unto them respectively: And it is recommended unto the said Committee to make timely Payment of the said Arrears, in respect of their good Services and Necessities.

Ordered, &c. That the Arrears due to John Tarrant Waterman, and Messenger to the Army, who, as the House has been informed, has done very notable good Service to the Parliament, whose Name is omitted in the Petition preferred from the Messengers attending the Committee of both Kingdoms, have his Arrears likewise paid him by the Committee of the Revenue.

It is further Ordered, That, over and above his Arrears, in Acknowledgment of his very good Service, that the Sum of One hundred Pounds be bestowed upon him, and paid out of the remaining Surplusage of the Arrears upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds, uncollected in the County of Bucks (the Gentlemen of the County of Bucks being first paid the Six thousand Pounds by them lent to the Parliament); to be paid out of the first Monies raised in that County upon the Act aforementioned.

It is further Ordered, That the Sum of Fifty Pounds apiece be bestowed upon each of the Petitioners abovesaid, in Acknowledgment of their good Services; and paid likewise out of the Arrears upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds in the County of Bucks, if it may be there had: And that what cannot be there had shall be charged upon the Receipts at Haberdashers Hall, and paid by Order of that Committee: And that this Business, as to the Arrears in the County of Bucks, be referred to the Care of Mr. West: Who is to prepare and bring in an Ordinance for the Discharge of the Treasurers, upon the paying in of the said Arrears.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Foxe's Delinquency.

It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That the Delinquency of Somersett Foxe Esquire be pardoned; and the Sequestration of his Estate, Personal and Real, taken off and discharged, according to a former Engagement of Colonel John Birch: And his Delinquency is hereby pardoned, and the Sequestration of his Estate, Real and Personal, taken off and discharged: And all Committees, Sequestrators, and other Officers, whom it do or may concern, are hereby required to take Notice hereof, and to yield a ready Obedience hereunto.

Articles of Truro.

Ordered, &c. That the Report concerning Articles of Truro be made on Friday next.

Sir E. Pye:

Ordered, &c. That the Petition of Sir Edmond Pye Knight be read on Friday Morning next, after the Articles of Truro.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, &c. That Sir Robert Binlosse, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Grant to Castle.

Whereas Fifty Pounds was by former Order bestowed upon one Richard Castle, a Messenger, of which he hath not yet received any thing: It is Ordered, That the said Fifty Pounds be charged upon the Receipts at Haberdashers Hall, and paid by Order of that Committee: And it is recommended to that Committee to take care that this Order may be speedily complied with.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Tarrant's Complaint.

Ordered, &c. That the Informations concerning some Affronts and Injuries done to John Tarrant, formerly a Waterman, and since a Messenger to the Army, for his faithful Service done to the Parliament, by Watermen, who likewise endeavour to hinder him to work at his Trade, be referred to the Examination of the Committee where Colonel Harvey has the Chair.

Scotts Officers.

Mr. John Goodwyn presented to the House a Second List of the Scotts Officers, signed by Auditor Broad.

Forasmuch as it doth not appear, nor is charged upon the Accompts of these Officers, what free Quarter or Monies these Officers have levied and taken of the Country, nor what Horse or Arms they have received from the State, or taken of the Country;

It is Resolved, &c. That the Third Part of the Sum of Seventeen thousand One hundred and Twenty Pounds Fourteen Shillings Four-pence Halfpeny, amounting to Five thousand Seven hundred Six Pounds Eighteen Shillings Peny Halfpeny, be paid to such of the said Officers, proportionably to their Arrears, as shall accept their proportionable Parts thereof, in full Discharge of all Demands whatsoever, demandable by the said Officers, or any of them, from this Kingdom, upon their respective Entertainment in these Wars: And shall, in pursuance thereof, give to the Committee of Petitions where Mr. John Goodwyn has the Chair, from whence this List was reported, such full Discharges as shall be by them thought fit.

It is further Ordered, That the Third Part of the foresaid Sum of Seventeen thousand One hundred and Twenty Pounds Fourteen Shillings Four-pence Halfpeny, amounting to Five thousand Seven hundred Six Pounds Eighteen Shillings Peny Halfpeny, so disposed as aforesaid, be charged upon the Receipts at Goldsmiths Hall, in Course, and paid by the Treasurers there to the said Committee for Petitions, or such as they shall appoint to receive the same; and be distributed by the said Committee of Petitions to the said Officers, according as is before directed, in proportion to their respective Arrears.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Payment to Stamper.

Ordered, upon the Question, That the Sum of Three hundred Pounds be forthwith paid by the Committee of Sussex, out of the Sequestrations of that County, to Richard Stamper, of Arundell, for Reparation of Goods taken from the said Richard Stamper by Lieutenant Colonel * Humes, to the Value of Three hundred Pounds, or thereabouts.

Ld. Forbes' Claims, &c.

Upon a Report, this Day made, from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to whom the Accompts and Desires of the Lord Forbes was referred;

It is Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One thousand Seven hundred Four Pounds Seventeen Shillings and Fourpence be allowed and paid by the Parliament to the Treasurers of the Adventurers for additional Forces by Sea for Ireland: And that, out of the first Monies that shall come in to the Treasury of the said Adventurers, the Lord Forbes, and his Officers, be paid their just Dues.

It is further Ordered, That this Sum of One thousand Seven hundred Four Pounds Seventeen Shillings Fourpence be charged upon the Receipts at Goldsmiths Hall, in Course, and paid by the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall to the Treasurers of the Committee for the additional Forces for Ireland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Irish Adventurers.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy to examine and state the Business concerning the Adventurers for additional Forces by Sea for Ireland; and to report the State of it to the House: And that, in the mean time, they do detain in their Hands the Monies belonging or claimed by Lewis Duke Merchant: And that they do not pay out the said Monies, or any Part thereof, till the House take further Order.