House of Commons Journal Volume 5
4 May 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 4 May 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 160-162. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25078 Date accessed: 26 July 2014.


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Die Martis, 4 Maii, 1647.

Prayers.

Preacher appointed.

DR. Temple desiring to be excused from Preaching before the House of Commons on the next Fast Day;

It is Ordered, That Mr. Case be desired to preach the next Fast Day, before this House, at Margaret's, Westminster.

Mr. Alderman Atkyn is appointed to desire him.

Citizens Petition.

The Question being put, Whether this Petition, intituled, The humble Petition of divers well-affected Citizens, shall be now read;

It passed with the Negative.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Henry Herbert, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

London Militia.

An Order of the Common Council, of 27 Aprilis 1647; wherein they nominate One-and-thirty Persons, in pursuance of an Ordinance of both Houses, to be a Committee for the Militia of the City of London, and Liberties thereof; was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That the House do proceed to the Approbation of the Persons nominated by the Common Council to be of the Committee of the Militia.

The Lord Mayor of the City of London, for the Time being, upon the Question, approved.

The Sheriffs for the Time being, upon the Question, approved.

Sir John Wollaston Knight, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman Adams, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman John Langham, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman James Bunce, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman Wm. Gibbe, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman Samuell Avery, upon the Question, approved.

Alderman John Bide, upon the Question, approved.

Major General Skippon, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel West, Lieutenant of the Tower, upon the Question, approved.

Christopher Pack, upon the Question, approved.

Captain John Johnes, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel John Bellamy, upon the Question approved.

Lieutenant Colonel Nathaniel Camfield, upon the Question, approved.

Captain Richard Venner, upon the Question, approved.

Edwyn Browne, upon the Question, approved.

Walter Boothby, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel Robert Manwaring, upon the Question, approved.

Thomas Arnold, upon the Question, approved.

Tempest Milner, upon the Question, approved.

Maurice Gethin, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel Thomas Gower, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel Edward Hooker, upon the Question, approved.

Richard Glyde, upon the Question, approved.

Colonel Richard Turner, upon the Question, approved.

Wm. Kendall, upon the Question, approved.

Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Bromfield, upon the Question, approved.

Lieutenant Colonel Edward Bellamie, upon the Question, approved.

John Gace, upon the Question, approved.

Resolved, &c. That these One-and-thirty Persons, so approved as aforesaid, or any Nine of them, whereof Three to be Aldermen, and Six to be Commoners, be constituted a Committee for the Militia of the City of London, to order the same according to the Intent and Meaning of the Ordinance of Parliament, of 16 Aprilis 1647.

The Clerk was commanded to put these Votes into the Form of an Ordinance; viz.

Whereas the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, in the City of London in Common Council assembled, in pursuance of an Ordinance of Parliament, of 16 Aprilis 1647, have nominated and presented, to both Houses of Parliament, the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs of the City of London for the Time being, Sir John Wollaston Knight, Thomas Adams, John Langham, James Bunce, Wm. Gibbes, Samuell Avery, and John Bide, Aldermen of the said City, and Major General Skippon, and Francis West Lieutenant of the Tower, Christofer Pack, Captain John Jones, Colonel John Bellamy, Lieutenant Colonel Nathaniell Camfield, Captain Richard Venner, Edwyn Browne, Walter Boothby, Colonel Robert Manwaring, Thomas Arnold, Tempest Milner, Maurice Gethin, Colonel Thomas Gower, Colonel Edward Hooke. Richard Glyde, Colonel Richard Turner, Wm. Kendall, Lieutenant Colonel Lawrence Bromfield, Lieutenant Colonel Edward Bellamy, and John Gace, as Persons fit to be a Committee for the Militia of the City of London, and Liberties thereof, and all other Places within the Line of Communication, and weekly Bills of Mortality: The Lords and Commons do hereby approve of the said Persons to be a Committee, as aforesaid: And the said Lords and Commons do hereby Ordain, That the said Persons, or any Nine of them, whereof Three to be Aldermen, and Six to be Commoners, are hereby constituted a Committee for the said Militia, to order and direct the same, according to the true Intent and Meaning of the said Ordinance of Parliament.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Herbert was appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile.

Resolved, &c. That a Day be appointed to give Thanks unto the Members of this House, that were of the former Militia for the City of London, and to the other Gentlemen who are not Members, for their good and faithful Service therein.

Resolved, &c. That Friday next be the Day for giving Thanks to the Gentlemen who were of the former Militia: And Mr. Aldermen Atkins and Colonel Ven are appointed to give the Gentlemen Notice hereof.

Pennington's Debt, &c.

The humble Certificate of Isaac Pennington, Alderman of London, and one of the Members of this House, was this Day read; and was concerning several great Losses and Damages sustained by him: And

It is Resolved, &c. That Alderman Pennington be freely discharged of the Debt, due from him to Sir John Pennington, in the Part of Satisfaction of his Damage and Losses: And that Mr. Recorder and Mr. John Corbett do prepare and bring in a Ordinance accordingly.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One thousand Pounds, charged by former Order to be paid to the Lady Vere out of the Monies due to Sir John Pennington, and remaining in the Hands of Mr. Alderman Pennington, be now charged and paid, in Course, upon the Receipts of Monies arising and coming in by Compositions with Delinquents at Goldsmiths Hall: And that the former Order for the Payment thereof be discharged. And it is further Ordered, That the Acquittance of the said Lady Vere, or her Assigns, shall be a good Discharge to the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall, for the Payment thereof, accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Three thousand Pounds be charged, in Course, upon the Receipts of Monies arising and coming-in by Compositions with Delinquents, at Goldsmiths Hall; and paid to Alderman Pennington, for Satisfaction of his Losses and Damages: And that the Acquittance of the said Alderman Pennington, or his Assigns, shall be a good Discharge to the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall, for the Payment thereof, accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Grant to Ly. Moore.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One thousand Pounds, charged by former Order to be paid to the Lady Moore, out of the Composition of Wm. Bromley, of Baggington * * * * be now charged and paid, in Course, upon the Receipts of Monies arising and coming in by Compositions with Delinquents, at Goldsmiths Hall: And that the former Order for Payment thereof be discharged.

And it is further Ordered, That the Acquittance of the said Lady Moore, or her Assigns, shall be a good Discharge to the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall, for the Payment thereof, accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Letter read.

A Letter from Major General Skippon, Lieutenant General Cromwell, and Commissary General Ireton, was this Day read.

London Petition.

A Petition directed to the Right Honourable the Commons of England, assembled in Parliament, and intituled, the humble Petition of divers well-affected Citizens; together with a Certificate annexed, directed to the Committee of Parliament, sitting in the Queen's Court, at Westminster, Colonel Leigh being Chairman; was this Day read.

Answers from Lords.

Mr. Herbert brings Answer, That the Lords will sit awhile.

London Militia.

Mr. Holles carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for the Militia of London: And

Brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the said Ordinance.

Robbers in Oxfordshire.

A Letter from Wm. Cope Esquire, Sheriff of the County of Oxon, of 3 Maii 1647, was this Day read; and was, to acquaint the House, That he had apprehended divers Persons, who call themselves Soldiers, and rob and spoil the Country.

Resolved, &c. That the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England do forthwith issue a Commission of Oyer and Terminer, to fitting Persons therein to be named, for the Tryal of such Persons as have committed any Spoils or Robberies, as Soldiers, in the County of Oxon.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That a Letter of Thanks be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent from this House to the Sheriff of the County of Oxon, for his good Service in apprehending of divers Persons, who, in the Name of Soldiers, have robbed and spoiled divers of the Inhabitants of the County of Oxon; and to desire him to raise the Power of the County to suppress them; and to apprehend and detain as many of them, as he can, until a due Course can be taken for their Tryals.

Mr. Salwey and Mr. Doyley are to prepare this Letter.

Inlistment in Oxfordshire.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House, for the Affairs of Ireland, do send down a List of such Persons, as they have inlisted for Ireland, unto the Sheriff of the County of Oxon.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Tryal of Robbers.

Resolved, &c. That the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England do forthwith issue Commissions of Oyer and Terminer into the several Counties, as they shall see Cause, for the Tryal of all such Persons as, in the Name of Soldiers, do rob and spoil the Countries.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Passports.

Resolved, &c. That the same Power as formerly be continued to the Committee of Prisoners, and to Mr. Speaker, to give Passports to such Persons as have been in the Service of the Enemy as shall desire it, and inlist themselves in the Service of any foreign Prince or State.

Persons found in Arms.

Ordered, That Mr. Maynard do prepare and bring in an Ordinance for declaring, That all such as have been in Arms against the Parliament, are to repair to their own Counties: And that, if they shall be found straggling in any other County, or in a warlike Manner in their own Counties, then to be punished with Death.

Free Quarter.

Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Soldier, or other Person or Persons, shall take free Quarter in any County, without Warrant or Authority of Parliament, shall be apprehended by the Sheriffs, or Justices of Peace, of each County respectively; and be tried by a Commission of Oyer and Terminer, for their Offences.

Poor.

Ordered, That, on Wednesday come Sevennight, the Ordinance for setting the Poor on Work be read.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Colonel Sydenham, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Citizens Petition.

According to former Order, the Petition, intituled, The Petition of divers well-affected Citizens; with the Certificate annexed; and the Petition, mentioned in and avowed by the said Certificate; were read.

The Orders and Proceedings of the House, upon the said Petition, intituled, To the Right Honourable and Supreme Authority of this Nation, the Commons, assembled in Parliament, &c. were read.

The Question was propounded, That the Substance of the Answer to these Petitioners shall be, That this House does dislike this Petition; and, in that respect, they cannot approve of their delivering this Petition to the House.

And the Question being put, Whether these Words, "some Parts of this," after the Word "dislike," should be added to this Question;

It passed with the Negative.

The Question being put, Whether this shall be the Substance of the Answer to the Petitioners; That this House doth dislike this Petition; and, in that respect, they cannot approve of their delivering this Petition to the House;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles,Tellers for the Yea:80.
Sir Phil. Stapilton,with the Yea,
Sir John Evelyn of Wilt',Tellers for the Noe,54.
Sir Arthur Hesilrige,with the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

The Petitioners were called in: And Mr. Speaker did accordingly acquaint them to this Purpose: "You have delivered a Petition; in which you desire, that this House would approve of your Delivery of a Petition to this House; the which is intituled, to the Right Honourable and Supreme Authority of this Nation, the Commons, in Parliament assembled, &c.: The House doth dislike this Petition; and, in that respect, cannot approve of your Delivering of this Petition to the House."

Major Tullidagh.

Major Tullidagh was called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, acquainted him, That he had Leave to tell the whole Transaction of the Business concerning himself and his Commitment:

He did accordingly make a Narrative of his Behaviour to the Committee, and to Sir Philip Stapilton and Mr. Holles, Members of that Committee.

Dr. Juxon.

Colonel Harvey brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order carried up by him, concerning Dr. Juxon, late Bishop of London.

Business to be done.

Ordered, That the Report from the Common Council, concerning the Proposition of borrowing Two hundred thousand Pounds, be made To-morrow Morning the first Business: And that, next after that Report, the Ordinance of Indemnity, and the Instructions for taking the Accompts of the Soldiery of the Kingdom, be read.