Die Jovis, 13 Maii, 1647.
ORDERED, &c. That the Informations concerning
the Delinquency of Mr. Soloman Swale, and the Letter
from Rippon, of 7 Maii 1647, and the Examinations inclosed, be referred to the Consideration and Examination
of the Committee at Haberdashers Hall: And they are
to use all Diligence in the Examination of this Business:
And are to report on Thursday Morning next, the next
Business after the Reports at Goldsmiths Hall.
Mr. Holles reports the Additions and Amendments to
the Ordinance for Borrowing of Two hundred thousand
Pounds: The which were twice read.
Resolved, &c. That Colonel Robert Manwaringe be
the Register Accomptant named in this Ordinance, with
the Fee of One hundred Pounds per Annum, payable by
the Hands of the Treasurers, for his Pains in this Service:
And for such Clerks, or Under Officers, as shall be employed in and about the Premises; the same shall be
approved of by the said Treasurers, and receive such reasonable Salary for their Service, as the said Treasurers
shall, from time to time, think fit.
The Amendments reported by the Reporter, and read,
were put to the Question; and, upon the Question,
A Proviso, to be added to this Ordinance, concerning
the excepting from this Security such Fines as shall be
imposed upon such Delinquents as have or shall compound upon Particulars, wherein are either Omissions,
or Under Valuations, was read the First and Second
time; and, upon the Question, passed.
And then the Ordinance, with the Amendments, Additions, and Provisoes, was put to the Question; and,
upon the Question passed: and is ordered to be sent
unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
Mr. Holles carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence,
this Ordinance, with these Provisoes and Additions, thus
He was further to put the Lords in mind of the Ordinance for raising of Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem, for
the Service of England and Ireland.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Lisle carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence,
the Propositions to be presented to the King, together
with the Instructions to the Commissioners at Holdenby,
for presenting the same.
He is likewise to put the Lords in mind of an Ordinance formerly sent unto them, concerning Sir Thomas
Fairefaxe's receiving and enjoying Rents to the Value of
Five thousand Pounds per Annum, out of the Lands and
Estates of Delinquents, &c.; and of the Business concerning Jersey; and to press the Necessity of speeding
their Resolutions in that Business.
Mr. Lisle brings answer, That he delivered the several
Messages to the Lords: And that they will send Answer
thereunto by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, &c. That the Ordinance concerning the Publick Faith for Horses raised for the Service of the Parliament, and now presented, be read immediataly after the
Messengers now to be called in shall be dispatched.
Message from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords have commanded us to deliver you this
Order for the Earl of Dunfarlynge to have Access to the
King; to which they desire your Concurrence: A Petition of the Earl of Northampton; whereupon the Lords
have made this Order; to which they desire your Concurrence: To put you in mind of a Petition of the Earl
of Mulgrave, which hath been sent to you long since: The
Lords desire you to take it into speedy Consideration.
They have also commanded us to deliver you a Report
from the Committee of the Admiralty, concerning the
Sweedish Ships; with Votes of theirs; to which the Lords
do agree, as is herein expressed: A Report from the Committee of the Irish Affairs, for the Continuance of a Ship
in Service, under the Command of Captain Rich: which
the Lords refer to the Committee of the Admiralty; and
therein desire your Concurrence: A Letter to the Lord
Herbert of Cherbury; which the Lords think fit to refer to
the Committee of both Kingdoms: And that his Lordship
may be there heard; wherein they desire your Concurrence. We are to acquaint you, That the Earl of Denbigh hath desired Leave to come to London, about his own
Occasions; which the Lords have granted him for Ten
Days: Whereupon they have made this Order; and
therein they do desire your Concurrence.
E. of Dumfarlinge's Access to the king.
The Order, sent from the Lords, from the Earl of
Dumfarlinge to have Access to the King, was read.
A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners from Worcester
House, of 6 Maii 1647, was this Day read; and was,
to desire that the said Earl may have Access to his Majesty, to repair unto, and attend on him, at Holdenby.
The Question being propounded, That these Words,
"and not otherwise," should be added in the Eighth Line,
after the Word "last," and before the Word "the;"
The Question was put, That this Question should be
It passed with the Negative.
The Question being put, That these Words, "but
not to attend his Majesty as a Servant," should be
added in the Eighth Line, after the Word "last," and
before the Word "the;" and that the Clause from the
Word "last," in the Eighth Line, unto the latter End,
It passed with the Affirmative. And
It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with
the Lords in the said Order so amended.
And then the Order, so agreed, is as followeth; viz.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament
assembled, That the Earl of Dumfarlinge shall have Access to his Majesty, at Holdenby, according to the Agreement of both Houses with the Kingdom of Scotland,
signified in a Letter dated the Seven-and-twentieth of
January last; but not to attend his Majesty as a Servant."
E. of Northampton's Composition.
The Petition of James Earl of Northampton, this Day
sent from the Lords, and the Lords Order thereupon,
for admitting of him to compound at Two Years Purchase; and that his Fifth and Twentieth Part, shall be
included therein; were read.
The humble Petition of John Cartwright Esquire, on
the Behalf of himself and Mrs. Mary Cartwright his
Mother, to have Ten thousand Pounds granted them out
of the Earl of Northampton's Fine, towards their Losses,
was this Day read.
The Lords Order, upon the Petition of the Earl of
Northampton, was read; and was in hæc verba; viz.
"Upon Consideration had of the Petition of the Right
Honourable James Earl of Northampton, and the Motives
thereunto annexed; and more particular of his Youth,
and Engagement in the War by his Father's Command;
his early endeavouring to come in, and laying down
Arms when his Command was no ways inconsiderable;
his free Choice, rather to come in from Oxford, and cast
himself upon the Favour of the Parliament, than to capitulate here; the Want of his Evidences, and his Submission to compound as Tenant in Fee; which distinguish his Case from all others: It it Ordered, by the
Lords and in Parliament assembled, That the
said Earl shall be admitted to his Composition at Two
Years Purchase; and that his Fifth, and Twentieth
Parts, shall be included therein."
"The Concurrence of the House of Commons is desired herein."
The Question being put, For agreeing with the Lords
in this Order, sent from them, upon the Petition of the
Earl of Northampton;
It passed with the Negative.
The Question was propounded, That the Earl of
Northampton be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths
Hall, to be compounded with according to the Rules and
Orders given to that Committee; and that a Report be
made before he pay the Moiety of the Fine:
And the Question being put, Whether this Question
shall be now put;
It passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Northampton be referred
to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to compound for
Ordered, &c. That the Petitions, now offered by Sir
Philip Stapleton, from divers Officers, and the Business
concerning the Northern Officers, be read, and taken into
Consideration, To-morrow Morning, the first Business.
Earl of Mulgrave, &c.
The humble Petition of Edmond Earl of Mulgrave,
formerly sent from the Lords, was now read: And
It is Ordered, That the Petition, upon the whole Matter
of it, be referred to the Committee following; who are to
consider of the Damages, and to state the whole Matter of
Fact: The same Committee is further to consider of the
Damages and Interest of Mr. Challoner and Mr. Richard
Bourcher, in the Alum Works, and of the whole Business
concerning the Alum and the Alum Works: And have
Power to receive the Petitions of all Parties, concerning
this Business, both Dyers and others: And, upon Consideration of all, to state the whole Matter of Fact, both
in relation to the Damage and Interest of the Parties pretending, and to the whole Business of the Alum and the
Mr. Challoner, Mr. Lisle, Sir John Maynard, Mr. Love,
Mr. Jo. Goodwyn, Mr. Pierrepont, Mr. Darley, Sir Ralphe
Ashton, Sir Henry Cholmeley, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Sir
Gregory Norton, Sir Richard Haughton, Sir Robert Pye,
Mr. Boone, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Marten, Sir Robert Harley,
Sir Ben. Rudyerd, Sir Walter Erle, Sir Wm. Counstable,
Mr. Blakeston, Mr. Miles Corbett, Mr. Walker, Mr.
Sandys, Mr. Gourdon, Sir John D'Anvers, Colonel Harvey,
Mr. Dormer, Sir Richard Onslowe, Sir Henry Vane senior,
Mr. Bond, Mr. Nicholl, Mr. Holles, Mr. Dodderiche, Colonel White, Sir Edward Partheriche, Sir Thomas Dacres,
Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Mr. Weaver, Mr. Whitelocke, Mr.
Fenwicke, Sir Christopher Yelverton, the Knights and Burgesses of Yorkeshire: And all that will come to have Voices:
And they are to meet To-morrow at Two post meridiem,
in the Exchequer Chamber; and so de die in diem, as they
shall have Occasion: And have Power to send for Patents,
Papers, Records, Parties, and Witnesses: And the Care of
this Business is more particularly referred to Sir Thomas
Widdrington and Mr. Lisle.
Ordered, &c. That the Committee of the Revenue do,
at the same time as the Report shall be made from this
Committee, report the State of the Business concerning
the Alum and the Alum Works, as it stands before
The Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty and Cinque Ports, touching the
Sweedish Ships, was read; and was in hæc verba, viz.
"Die Jovis, 7 Maii, 1647."
"By the Committee of Lords and Commons for the
Admiralty and Cinque Ports;"
"An Order of the House of Commons, whereby the
Papers concerning the Sweedish Ships, and the whole
Business thereupon depending, were referred to this Committee; who were to meet, and report their Opinions this
Day; was now considered of. And for as much as, upon
Reading of the said Papers, there appeared no Cause
for the longer Detention of the Sweedish Vice Admiral,
brought into the Downs by Captain Batten; and for that
a Detriment may arise by the Respiting of her Discharge
until the Parliament's Sitting (they having adjourned till
Tuesday next); the rest of the Sweedish Ships, who are certified to be out of Victuals, being also come into the
Downes, to attend the Issue of this Matter:"
"Resolved, That a Letter be written to Captain Batten,
forthwith to discharge the said Vice Admiral of the Sweedish
Fleet, that the with the rest of the said Fleet may proceed on their Voyage home."
"A Letter to Captain Batten was accordingly written,
in this Form; viz.
"We have received and considered of your several Letters, concerning the Sweedish Ships; and think fit, that the
Vice Admiral of that Fleet by you brought into the
Downes, be no longer detained: And therefore would
have you forthwith to discharge her, that she, with the
rest of the same Fleet, may proceed on their Voyage
"Concerning this Matter, you shall hear further from
us, after a Report to both Houses, agreed upon this Day,
shall be presented."
"Resolved, That this Committee is of Opinion, That
the Vice Admiral's and Rear Admiral's Proceedings, in
order to the Maintenance of the Kingdom's Sovereignty
by Sea, be approved of by both Houses."
"Ordered, That this Committee's Proceedings and
Opinions, in this Matter, be reported to both Houses of
"Die Martis, 11 Maii, 1647."
Resolved, That this Committee is of Opinion, That a
Letter from both Houses of Parliament to the Queen of
Sweeden, or a Remonstrance to her Agent here, be sent
or delivered, to the Effect following; viz."
"To set forth the Right of this Crown to the Sovereignity of the Narrow Seas; the violating thereof, by her
Commanders refusing to take in their Flags, on colour of
their Instructions; the Proceeding of the Parliament's
Ships thereupon; the Parliament's respect to the said
Queen; and their Readiness to maintain Amity and good
Correspondency with the Crown of Sweeden; together
with their Desires, that, for preventing future Misunderstandings, her Majesty's Commander at Sea may not in
like Cases deny that Respect which is due to this Crown."
W. Jessop Secretary."
"The Lords Opinion upon the said Report was likewise read; and was in hæc verba, viz."
"The Lords do approve of what the Vice Admiral and
Rear Admiral have done concerning the Sweedish Ships,
in Maintenance of the Sovereignty of the Seas belonging
to this Crown; and do refer it to the Committee of the
Admiralty, to draw up a Letter, or Remonstrance, to be
sent to the Queen of Sweeden, or her Commissioner here,
according to the Report of the Admiralty of the Eleventh
of May 1647; and to report the same to the Houses before it be sent: And the Concurrence of the House of
Commons is desired herein."
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords
in this their Opinion, thus expressed, upon the Report
The Report from the Committee of the Irish Affairs,
for the Continuance of a Ship in Service, under the Command of Captain Riche, which the Lords refer to the
Committee of the Admiralty, was read. And
It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with
the Lords herein.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the
Lords, in referring the Letter to the Lord Herbert of
Cherbury, now sent from the Lords, to the Consideration
of the Committee of both Kingdoms: And that his
Lordship may be there heard.
Earl of Denbygh.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the
Lords in giving Liberty to the Earl of Denbygh, one of
the Commissioners from both Houses of Parliament at
Holdenby, to return to the City of London, and to continue
in and about the said City for the Space of Ten Days;
and then to return.
Ordered, &c. That the Ordinances concerning Publick
Faith, be read To-morrow Morning.
Ordered, &c. That the Report from the Committee for
the Affairs of Ireland, in Mr. Tate's Hand, be made
Scotts Forces in Ireland.
Ordered, &c. That the Report concerning Dismission of
the Scotts Forces out of Ireland, be made To-morrow
Ordered, &c. That the Committee for Foreign Plantations be revived; to sit on Tuesday next, in the usual Place:
And have Power to de die in diem, as they shall see
Occasion, to proceed in the Business concerning the Earl
of Caerlisle's Letters Patents.
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has considered their Lordships Message: And as
to the Order concerning the Earl of Dumfarlinge to have
Access to the King; the Petition of the Earl of Northampton, and the Lords Answer thereupon; the Petition of the
Earl of Mulgrave: they will send Answer by Messengers
of their own: To the rest, they do agree.