House of Commons Journal Volume 5
25 May 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 25 May 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 182-184. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25090 Date accessed: 29 August 2014.


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Die Martis, 25 Maii, 1647.

Prayers.

Lieut. Gen. of Ordnance.

RESOLVED, &c. That the Office of Lieutenant General of the Ordnance, with the Profits, Advantages, and Emoluments, belonging to the same, shall be restored and continued to Sir Walter Erle, according to the Ordinance of Parliament, whereby the same was formerly granted to him; notwithstanding an Order or Ordinance of both or either of the Houses of Parliament, formerly made to the contrary: And his Majesty's Solicitor General is hereby appointed to prepare a Grant of the said Office of Lieutenant of the Ordnance, unto the said Sir Walter Earle, with all Advantages, Profits, and Emoluments, thereunto of Right belonging: And the Commissioners of the Great Seal, for the Time being, are hereby authorized to pass the said Grant so prepared, under the Great Seal, accordingly.

Clerk of the Hanaper.

Resolved, &c. That the Office of Clerk of the Hanaper, with the Profits, Advantages, and Emoluments, belonging to the same, shall be restored and continued to Sir Wm. Allenson Knight, according to the Ordinance of Parliament, and Letters Patents, whereby the same was formerly granted to him; notwithstanding any Order or Ordinances of both or either of the Houses of Parliament, formerly made to the Contrary.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Court of Wards.

An Ordinance for making Reparations unto the Lord Say, late Master of the Court of Wards and Liveries; Sir Ben. Rudierd, Surveyor of the Liveries; Sir Rowland Wandisford, late Attorney of the late Court of Wards; Charles Fleetwood Esquire, late Receiver of the late Court of Wards; in lieu of the Loss of their respective Offices, and in Satisfaction of their Losses; was this Day read the First time; * * * * on this Day Sevennight, the first Business after the Reports of Goldsmiths Hall: And that, after that, Mr. Swynfen do make his Reports concerning the Court of Wards: And that then the Ordinance concerning Decrees and Grants formerly passed in the Court of Wards * * * *

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Wm. Pierrepont, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Delinquents.

Sir Anthony Irby reports several Fines and Ordinances upon Compositions made with Delinquents, by the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Eleven hundred and Fifty Pounds, of Henry Ashford in the County of Devon, Esquire, for a Fine for his Delinquency: His Offence is, That he was a Commissioner of Array for the King, and assisted in raising Arms against the Parliament: His Estate, in old Rents, in Fee, per Annum, is One hundred and Nineteen Pounds Three Shillings and Two-pence per Annum; in dry Rents, per Annum, Four Pounds Three Shillings One Peny; for Two Lives, per Annum, Ninety-four Pounds and Ten Shillings; in Fee, per Annum, One hundred and Sixty Pounds; in Debts and Goods, Eight hundred Twentyeight Pounds; out of which issues Six Pounds per Annum, for ever.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Henry Ashford, of Ashford in the County of Devon, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed: and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

The Question was put, Whether the Question shall be put, upon the Fine of One thousand Four hundred Pounds set upon Mr. Eure, for his Delinquency: And

It passed with the Affirmative.

The Report of the Delinquency and Estate of Ralphe Eure, of Washingborough in the County of Lincoln, Esquire, was this Day read; and was, That he was in Arms against the Parliament; but immediately after the Fight at Hesleymoore, he did lay down his Arms, and went beyond the Seas; where he continued till the 26th of April 1646: At which time he returned, and submitted himself to the Committee of Lincoln, having sent his Servant from beyond Seas, in September 1645, to the said Committee, to have compounded for his Estate; but could not be received but in Person; which the Committee certify: His Estate in Fee, per Annum, a Hundred and Seventy Pounds; in Tail per Annum, Three hundred and Twenty Pounds; for Ninety-nine Years to come, per Annum, Eleven Pounds and Four Shillings; for Eighty Years to come, per Annum, Thirty Pounds; out of which issued Five Pounds Ten Shillings per Annum, for ever; for one Life, Eighty Pounds per Annum; and a Hundred Pounds charged upon Part of the Lands in Fee: Which, being allowed, leaves the Fine, at a Sixth, Fourteen hundred Pounds.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept, of the said Ralph Eure, the said Sum of Fourteen hundred Pounds, for a Fine for his Delinquency, and taking off his Sequestration.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Ralph Eure, of Washingborne in the County of Lincoln, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for Discharge of the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

The Question was propounded, That this whole Business, concerning Mr. George Mynne, shall be taken up on Tuesday Sevennight.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Mr. Bond, Tellers for the Noe: 63.
Colonel Sydney, With the Noe,
Sir Wm. Lewes, Tellers for the Yea: 143.
Sir John Clotworthy, With the Yea,

Resolved, &c. That this whole Business now offered, concerning Mr. George Mynne, be taken up on this Day Sevennight.

Mr. Holles reports from the Committee * * * *.

House to fit.

Resolved, &c. That this House do meet this Afternoon at One of Clock.

Sir Robert Harley is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, That, upon weighty Occasions, the House has resolved to fit this Afternoon; and to desire them to do the like, if it may stand with their Conveniency.

Reduced Officers.

Sir Philip Stapilton presented to the House the List of the Names of the reduced Officers that preferred, by his Hands, a late Petition to this House: And

It is Ordered, That the former Order for auditing their Accompts do now issue: And that this Business be taken into consideration on Wednesday next come Sevennight.

Post Meridiem.

Officers Arrears.

THE humble Petition of the distressed English Officers and Soldiers, who have been reduced a long time, and faithfully served your Honours, and received but small Proportions of their Arrears; many whereof have not as yet received any Part thereof; but have their Names hereunto annexed; was this Day read.

Rules for receiving and stating the Demands and Accompts of the Petitioners were read.

Colonel Birch reports the Alterations and Amendments to the Instructions formerly read, and committed, for taking, stating, and auditing the Accompts of the Soldiery of the Kingdom: The which were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And then the Instructions, upon the Questions Passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Publick Accompts.

Colonel Birch reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom: The which were twice read; and upon the Question, assented unto.

Resolved, &c. That the Blank in this Ordinance be filled up with the Committee for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom: And that the Committee for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom shall be the Committee named in this Ordinance.

Then the Ordinance was put to the Question; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Colonel Birch is appointed to carry these Instructions, and this Ordinance, to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Isle of Wight.

Ordered, That the Order for the Issuing Monies in the Isle of Wight, by Warrant of the Gentlemen that serve for the Isle, formerly passed this House, be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence, at the next Message.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Harley brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to sit this Afternoon, as is desired.

Disbanding Forces.

The House resumed the Debate of proceeding upon the Report made from the Committee, by Mr. Holles.

And the Question was propounded, That the House shall now proceed with the said Report.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative. And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House shall now proceed with the said Report.

The Question being put, That the General's Regiment be first disbanded; that the Time of that Disbanding be on Tuesday next the First of June; that the Town of Chelmsford be the Place of the Rendezvous; that such as will engage for Ireland be presently taken on, and have a Fortnight's Advance paid them out of their Six Weeks, besides the Two Months Pay of their Arrears; and to march forth to Ingarstone, there to receive Orders; that those that shall disband, shall receive their Two Months Pay of their Arrears; and shall deposit their Arms in the Church; and have Passes to go to their several Homes;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Wm. Lewes, Tellers for the Yea: 136.
Mr. Grimston, With the Yea,
Colonel Sidney, Tellers for the Noe: 115.
Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative. And

It is Resolved, &c. That the General's Regiment be first disbanded: That the Time for that Disbanding be on Tuesday next, the First of June: That the Town of Chelmesford be the Place of the Rendezvous: That such as will engage for Ireland be presently taken on, and have a Fortnight's Advance paid them out of their Six Weeks, besides the Two Months Pay of their Arrears; and to march forthwith to Ingarstone, there to receive Orders: That those that shall disband, shall receive their Two Months Pay of their Arrears; and shall deposit their Arms in the Church; and have Passes to go to their several Homes.

Resolved, &c. That the like Manner be observed in disbanding the rest of the Regiments, at the several Times and Places of Rendezvous, as followeth; viz.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Hughson's Regiment be disbanded at Bishops Stafford, on Thursday the Third of June next: And that those who engage for Ireland, to march to Puckeridge to receive Orders.

That Colonel Rambert's Regiment be disbanded at Walden on Saturday the Fifth of June next: And that those that engage for Ireland, to march to Heydon, to receive Order.

That Colonel Harlei's Regiment be disbanded at Cambridge, on Tuesday the Eighth of June next: And those who engage for Ireland, to march to Stanton, to receive Orders.

Disbanding Forces.

That Colonel Lilbourn's Regiment be disbanded at Newmarkett, on Thursday the Tenth of June next: And those who engage for Ireland, to march to Botesham, to receive Orders. Of this Regiment there is Five hundred and Eighty already engaged, now at Evesholme.

That Colonel Sir Hardres Waller's Regiment, at Huntington, be disbanded on Saturday the Twelfth of June next: And those who engage for Ireland, to march to Thrapston, to receive Orders.

That Colonel Hamon's be disbanded at Bedford, on Tuesday the Fifteenth of June next: Those who engage for Ireland, to march to Newport Pagnell, to receive Orders.

That Colonel Ingoldesbie's Regiment be disbanded at Woodstock, on Friday the Fourth of June next: Those who engage for Ireland, to march to Chippen Norton.

Colonel Fortescue's Regiment all engaged already, and marched to Bromesgrave in Worcestershire.

Colonel Herbert's all engaged already, and marched to Cambden.

Colonel Rainsboroughe's Regiment designed for Jersey.

Resolved, &c. That Field Marshal Skippon's Regiment, at Newcastle, be taken on for Ireland; and march according to his Orders.

Resolved, &c. That the Money for Disbanding of all these Regiments, and also for the Fortnight's Pay for those that shall go to Ireland, be convoyed under a strong Guard to the several Places of Rendezvous, to be there the Day before the Day of Disbanding.

Resolved, &c. That the General be desired to issue out his Orders to the several Regiments to be at the several Places and Times of Rendezvous respectively: And that himself will be there present to see them disbanded; as likewise Field Marshal Skippon, who is then to take on such of them as will go for Ireland: And that, in regard the Regiment of Colonel Ingoldesby lies off from the rest, and is to be disbanded at Woodstock the Fourth of June next, that the General be desired to send some Officer thither to see them disbanded.

Resolved, &c. That the several Captains of every Company bring a List of their Company, under their Hands, to the Place of Rendezvous appointed for Disbanding; wherein the Name of every Soldier in that Company shall be expressed.

Resolved, &c. That where it shall appear that any of the Soldiers have not Two Months Pay due to them, that so much be abated as shall be found to come short of it.

Resolved, &c. That Forty thousand Pounds be appointed for this Service of disbanding these Regiments; and for the Fortnight's Pay, Part of the Six Weeks Pay for those that shall go for Ireland: And that it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, and the Committee of the Army, joined as to this Business, to consider of the Way of conveying and carrying down this Monies; and by whose Hands and Order it shall be received, paid, and issued; and to prepare and bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the Army, to consider of Instructions for stating the Arrears and Accompts of the Soldiers of this Army; and how Debentures shall be given them, for so much as shall appear justly due upon their Accompts.

Resolved, &c. That a Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to go down, and be assisting to the General, in this Service of disbanding the Army.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to go down to the Army, shall, in the Head of every Regiment, at their Disbanding, give them the Thanks of this House, for their faithful Service to the Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That all Commission Officers shall receive their particular Debentures, upon their Account, made by the Committee and Treasurers of the Army abovesaid.

Resolved, &c. That the Excise in Course shall be the Security to be given for the Payment of the Arrears of the inferior Officers, and common Soldiers: And that the Commission Officers shall be paid out of the Estates of Delinquents in the first Exceptions not yet disposed of: And that the Committee of the Army do prepare and bring in Ordinances to this Purpose.

Resolved, &c. That all these Votes concerning the Army, except those that concern the Disposing of the Monies, be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Wm. Lewes is appointed to carry these Votes to the Lords for their Concurrence, on Thursday Morning next.

Message to Lords.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to concur with this House in the Vote, formerly sent from this House, for a Commission to be granted to Colonel Rainsborough to command the Forces in Chief, designed for the Reducing of Jersey: And likewise the Ordinance for repaying the Monies advanced by the Commissioners of the Customs for this Service.

He likewise carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Vote, That none that has served voluntarily in this Army, shall be pressed to serve beyond the Seas: And likewise the Order concerning the Issuing of Monies in the Isle of Wight.

Answer.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Vote, That none that has served voluntarily in the Army, shall be pressed to serve beyond the Seas: To the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Persons discharged.

Resolved, &c. That Ensign Nicolls, now under the Serjeant's Custody, be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Robert Lilbourne, Major Robert Saunders, and Captain Styler, be forthwith discharged from any further Attendance.

Privilege.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Thomas Cromwell, who was sent for by Order of a Committee of this House; and did accordingly attend the said Committee this Day; and was, upon his immediate Return from the said Committee, arrested; and is now under Restraint in the Custody of the Bailiff of Westminster; be forthwith discharged from the said Arrest, and freed from the Restraint and Custody of the said Bailiff, his Deputy and Deputies.