House of Commons Journal Volume 5
5 June 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 5 June 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 198-200. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25098 Date accessed: 24 October 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 5 Junii, 1647.

Prayers.

Pye thanked.

RESOLVED, &c. That the Thanks of this House be given to Sir Robert Pye, for his faithful and good Service to the Parliament, in Bringing of his Troop.

The like Thanks to be given to his Officers and Soldiers.

Pye's Troop.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, do give Warrant to Alderman Bunce, and the rest of the Treasurers at Weavers Hall, to pay the Sum of Two hundred Pounds to Sir John Wollaston, and the rest of the Treasurers at Wars, to be issued by Order of the said Committee, to Sir Robert Pye, for the Service of him, his Officers and Troop, for their present Support, and Discharge of their Quarters.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, and the Knights of the Shire for Middlesex, to confer and consult with Sir Robert Pye, concerning the Quartering of his Troop; and to give Order for their Quarter, in Places convenient, and most for the Ease of the Country.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Recorder, Sir Philip Stapleton, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes;

This Committee is to prepare a Letter in general Terms, to be sent to the General.

Carrying the King to Newmarkett.

A Letter from the Commissioners from Holdenby, of 4 Junii 1647, concerning the carrying away the King and Commissioners to Newmarkett, was read. And

Mr. Walford, that brought the said Letter, was called in to the Bar; and made a Narrative of all the Passages of the Party of Horse that hath carried away the King and the Commissioners to Newmarkett.

Grant \?\ Walforl.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One hundred Pounds be bestowed upon Edward Walford, for the great Travail and Pains he hath, upon all Occasions, taken in the Service of the Parliament: And that the said Sum of an Hundred Pounds be forthwith paid unto him, by the Committee of the Revenue.

Army Pry.

Resolved, &c. That the Ten thousand Pounds, Yesterday ordered for the private Soldiers, be paid to Mr. Greenehill, Mr. Pocock, and the rest of the Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, usually sitting at Christ Church: And that their Acquittance shall be a sufficient Discharge: And that the said Monies be issued out by Order of the Committee where Mr. John Goodwyn hath the Chair, in such Proportions as that Committee shall think fit to appoint.

Message to Lords.

Sir Henry Vane carried to the Lords for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for One thousand Five hundred Pounds to the Committee of Accompts: The Ordinance for Ten thousand Pounds for reduced Officers; The Ordinance for Ten thousand Pounds for private Soldiers: The Votes for the common Soldier, and the Officers not in Commission, to have their full Pay: The Vote for Addition of a Month's Pay to the Officers in Commission: the Vote for expunging the Declaration of 29 Martii, sent to the Lords, 30 Martii 1647.

Ordered, &c. That after the Reports are made concerning the Matters touching the Army that the House is to confer with the Lords upon, that the House do resume the Consideration of the Twenty Officers, and about Fourscore Soldiers, that are come nearer to these Parts.

Letter to the General.

Sir Philip Stapleton reports a Letter to be sent from both Houses to the General: The which was read first by the Reporter, and then by the Clerk; and, upon the Question, assented unto. And

Sir Philip Stapleton is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Indemnity.

An additional Ordinance for the more full Indemnity of the Officers and Soldiers who have acted by Authority, and for the Service, of the Parliament, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Recorder, Mr. Hill, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Samuell Browne, Mr. Westrowe, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Prideauxe, Mr. John Stephens, Mr. Boys, Mr. Doddyriche, Mr. Twisden, or any Three of them.

Declaration concerning the Army.

An Ordinance, by way of Declaration, for expunging, raising, and making void, the Declaration of 30 Maii 1647, concerning the Army, was this Day read the First and Second time; and referred to the fore-named Committee: And are to meet upon it presently.

Payment to Jackson, &c.

Ordered, upon the Question, that the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, shall have Power to give order to Alderman Bunce, and the rest of the Treasurers at Weavers Hall, to pay unto Sir John Wollaston, and the rest of the Treasurers at Wars, the Sum of One hundred Pounds, to be disposed of, by Order of the said Committee, for the present Service of Lieutenant Colonel Jackson, and other Officers, and about Fourscore Soldiers that are come off from the Army, to be entertained in the Service of Ireland; and for the Discharge of their Quarter: And that it be referred to the same Committee (conferring with the Gentlemen of Middlesex, and the Officers) to appoint them Quarters, in such convenient Places as may be most for the Ease of the Country.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

House to sit.

Ordered, &c. That this House do sit this Afternoon at Two of Clock.

Ordered, &c. That the Lords be desired to do the like.

Sir Nevill Poole went to the Lords with this Message.

Post Meridiem.

Members to attend.

IT is this Day Ordered, upon the Question, by the Commons, in Parliament assembled, That all the Members of the House be hereby enjoined forthwith to attend the Service of the House, notwithstanding any former or particular Leave or Order to be absent.

It is further Ordered, That this Order be forthwith printed: And that the Knights and Burgesses of the several Counties and Places do forthwith send this Order to the particular and respective Sheriffs, requiring to give particular Notice of this Order, to the respective Members within their several Counties.

Declaration concerning the Army.

Mr. Dodderiche reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for repealing the Declaration of 30 Martii, concerning the Army: The which was twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And then the Ordinance, upon the Question, passed; and is ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Dodderiche is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

WHEREAS the Lords and Commons did, by a Declaration of the Thirtieth of March last, declare their Sense upon a Petition, with the Representation thereunto annexed: And whereas they have been since informed, That the Petitioners intended not thereby to give any Offence to the Parliament, or any way to reflect upon, or lessen their Authority: And calling to mind the great and eminent Service done by the Army to the Parliament and Kingdom: The Lords and Commons, being tender of the Honour of the said Army, have thought fit to Ordain and Declare, and be it Declared and Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, in the Parliament of England assembled, and by the Authority of the same, That the said former Declaration, of the Thirtieth of March; be rased and expunged out of the Records and Books of the said Houses; and wholly taken away, and made void: And that no Member of the said Army shall receive any Damage, Prejudice, or Reproach, for any thing in the said former Declaration.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Nevill Poole brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to fit this Afternoon.

Letter to the General.

Sir Philip Stapleton brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Letter to be sent to the General.

Ordered, &c. That the Letter be forthwith sent away to the General, signed by the Speakers of both Houses: And that the Letter, being signed, be forthwith sent to Mr. Frost; and he required immediately to send it away; and to take Notice of the Person he sends it by, and of the Time he delivers it unto him.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Henry Vane brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Votes for the whole Pay to the common Soldier, and Officer not in Commission; and for a Month's Addition of Pay to the Commissioned Officers: To the Vote for expunging the Declaration of the Thirtieth of March 1647, concerning the Army: To the Ordinance for One thousand Five hundred Pounds for the Committee of Accompts: To the Ordinance for Ten thousand Pounds for reduced Officers: To the Ordinance for Ten thousand Pounds for the private Soldier.

Payment to Grevis, &c.

Ordered, &c. That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, do give Warrant to Alderman Bunch, and the rest of the Treasurers at Weavers Hall, to pay the Sum of Two hundred Pounds to Sir John Wollaston, and the rest of the Treasurers at Wars; to be issued, by Order of the said Committee, to Colonel Grevis, for the Service of him, his Officers and Troopers; for their present Support, and Discharge of Quarters: And that it be referred to the said Committee, to consult with the Knights of the Shire, and Gentlemen, of Middlesex and Surry; and, conferring with Colonel Grevis, to give Order for quartering his Officers and Troopers, in Places convenient, and most for the Ease of the Country.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Letters read.

A Letter from the Commissioners of Scotland, from Worcester House, of 5 Junii 1647, desiring, some time this Day, to communicate some Things of great Importance to both Houses of Parliament, was this Day read.

A Letter from the Lord Dumfermeling, of 5 Junii 1647, desiring to communicate some Things, by Command of his Majesty, to this House, was this Day read.

Indemnity.

Mr. Swinfen reports some Amendments and Provisoes, for the more full Indemnity of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army: The which were Twice read: And the First Amendment, for Changing these Words, "Nature of War," into these Words, "Exigency of War," was assented unto.

The Question was put, upon the first Proviso, concerning wilful Murder, &c. And

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the Word "or," in the Beginning of the 22th Line, be left out.

Resolved, &c. That the Word "Felonies" be left out.

The Ordinance being put to the Question;

It passed, upon the Question; and it is ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Swinfen is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Message from the King.

The Lord Dumfermeling was called in; and a Chair set for him: And did, sitting, deliver a Message from his Majesty.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Holles and Mr. Ashurst do desire the Lord Dumfermeling to send to Mr. Speaker in Writing, under his Hand, the Message he delivered from his Majesty by Word of Mouth.

Message to Lords.

Sir Wm. Lewes carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order for Two hundred Pounds for Colonel Grevis his Officers and Troopers; and for quartering them: The Order for Two hundred Pounds for Sir Robert Pye, his Officers and Troopers: Order for quartering of Sir Robert Pye's Troop: Order for One hundred Pounds for Lieutenant Colonel Jackson, and his Men; and for quartering them: Ordinance for repealing the Declaration passed both Houses 30 Martii 1647, concerning the Army.

Answer.

Sir Wm. Lewes brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Orders concerning Sir Robert Pye and his Troop; concerning Colonel Grevis, and his Troopers; concerning Lieutenant Colonel Jackson: To the rest they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr.Page;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you this Letter: It is from the Scottish Commissioners at Worcester House: And they have appointed a Committee of Twenty of their Lordships, whereof Seven of the Quorum (and desire you will appoint a proportionable Number), to meet this Afternoon at Five of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber, to hear what the said Commissioners have to deliver, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House: An Order upon a Report from the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, concerning the Examination of Sir Thomas Hamson's Delinquency: Wherein they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Scotts Commissioners.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur in appointing a Committee of a proportionable Number, to meet with a Committee of the Lords, this Afternoon, to hear what the Commissioners of Scotland have to deliver.

Sir Walter Erle, Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Darley, Mr. Lister, Field Marshal Skippon, Mr. Gerard, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Trefuses, Sir Arthur Haselrige, Sir Humfry Briggs, Mr. Erle, Sir Henry Vane, Mr. Rouse, Colonel Harvey, Dr. Bond, Mr. Baynton, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Gourdon, Mr. Ashhurst, Mr. Wheeler, Sir Richard Onslowe, Sir John Northcott, Mr. Marten, Mr. John Lenthall, Mr. Edward Ash, Sir John Potts, Colonel Long, Mr. Bosevile, Mr. Oxenden, Mr. Holles, Mr. Nerthorpe, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Sir Robert Harley, Mr. Tate, Sir Grigory Norton, Mr. Spilman, Sir John Maynard;

This Committee, or any Fourteen of them, is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, this Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber, to hear what the Scotts Commissioners have to deliver.

Hanson's Delnquency.

Resolved, &c. That to the Order and Report concerning the Examination of Sir Thomas Hamson's Delinquency, this House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Private Business.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, That, for the Space of Ten Days, to be accounted from this Day, the House will not entertain, or meddle with, any private or particular Business whatsoever.

Ordered, &c. That the Lords be acquainted, That, in regard of the very great and very important Affairs of the Parliament, this House hath resolved, not to entertain, or meddle with, any private or particular Business whatsoever, for the Space of Ten Days; and to desire their Lordships to do the like, if they shall so think fit.

Irdemnity.

Mr. Swinfen went to the Lords with this Message: And likewise, carried the Ordinance for the more full Indemnity of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army.

House to meet.

Resolved, &c. That the House do meet To-morrow at Four of Clock in the Afternoon.

Minister to pray.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Wheeler do desire Mr. Marshall to come and pray with this House, To-morrow in the Afternoon, at their meeting together.

Message to Lords.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Gerard do go to the Lords, and acquaint them, That, in regard to the urgent Haste and Necessity of Affairs, this House hath resolved to meet To-morrow at Four of Clock; and to desire their Lordships to do the like, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed a proportionable Committee, and a proportionable Quorum, as is desired, to meet this Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber, to hear what the Scotts Commissioners have to deliver: To the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.