House of Commons Journal Volume 5
8 June 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 8 June 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 202-203. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25101 Date accessed: 20 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Martis, 8 Junii, 1647.

Prayers.

Days of Recreation.

An Ordinance concerning Days of Relaxation for Scholars, Apprentices, and Servants, was this Day read the Second time.

And the Question being put for the Committing;

It passed with the Negative.

And then the Ordinance, upon the Question, passed; and is ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir John Maynard accordingly carried it unto the Lords.

Mr. Marshall, &c.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Marshall have Leave to come come home from the Commissioners with the King.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Caryll shall have Leave to come home from the Commissioners with the King.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired in these Votes.

Declaration.

The Declaration for repealing the Declaration of 30 Martii 1647, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence; some few Clauses of the former Declaration, sent to the Lords on Saturday the Fifth, being left out.

Fast Day.

Resolved, &c. That, at the next Message, the Lords be acquainted, That this House has appointed Wednesday for a Day of Humiliation, to be observed by Members of this House, in this House.

Army.

The Question was propounded, That this House shall proceed to give any further Answer to the Particulars in the Summary from the Army;

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

The Question being put, Whether the House shall proceed to give any further Answer to the Particulars in the Summary from the Army;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Arthur Hesilrig, Tellers for the Yea: 77.
Sir Peter Wentworth, With the Yea,
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Tellers for the Noe: 78.
Sir Wm. Lewes, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Message to Lords.

Sir Peter Wentworth carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Instructions to the Commissioners that are employed to the Army; a Declaration for repealing the former Declaration, passed 30 Martii, concerning the Army: An Order for Fifty Pounds, out of Haberdashers Hall: An Order for Ten thousand Pounds more, for the private Soldiers, upon the same Security, and to be paid in the same manner, as the former Ten thousand Pounds.

He communicated the Letter from the General, from Cambridge, of 7 Junii 1647; and was to acquaint the Lords, That this House has appointed To-morrow for a Day of Humiliation, to be observed by the Members of this House, in this House.

Divines.

The Question was propounded, That Divines should be now sent to the Commissioners that are with the King.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Negative.

Letters to the General, &c.

Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes reports a Draught of a Letter to be sent from both Houses, to the General: The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

He further reported a Letter to be sent to the Commissioners with the King, in Answer of their . . . . . of the 4th of June 1647.

Answers from Lords.

Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Particulars of the Message carried by him, in which their Concurrence was desired.

Sir John Maynard brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for Days of Relaxation and Recreation for Scholars, Apprentices, and Servants.

Removing the King to Oatlands.

The Question was propounded, That this House should concur with the Lords in their Vote for the Removal of the Kings Person to Oatlands:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

The Question being put, That this House shall concur with the Lords in their Vote for the Removal of the King's Person to Oatlands;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 86.
Lord Herbert, With the Yea,
Sir John Evelyn, Tellers for the Noe: 119.
Mr. Bulkley, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Forces for Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That those Forces that are drawn off from the Army, who have engaged for Ireland, and are now quartered about Evesham, Campden, Newport Pagnell, and thereabouts, be quartered at Worcester, and thereabouts: And that it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to see them quartered there accordingly.

They are further to take care, That Monies, and other necessary Provisions, may be sent down to them, that may sit them for the Service of Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds be issued out of the Treasure at Weavers Hall, and paid by the Treasurers there, to such as the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, shall, from time to time, appoint to receive the same; to be disposed of by Order of the said Committee for the Service of the Forces designed for Ireland: And that Sir John Clotworthy and Mr. Allein do prepare and bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

Suppressing Tumults.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Heath;

The Lords, finding that divers People do continually come up to the Houses of Parliament in a tumultuous manner, have commanded us to put you in mind of the Vote that was sent down Yesterday, for the preventing the like; and desire your speedy Concurrence therein.

Resolved, &c. That the Answer to this Message shall be, That this House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Defence of the City, &c.

The House being informed, That the Sheriffs of the City of London were at the Door;

They were called in: And Sheriff Edmonds acquainted the House, That they were commanded by the Lord Mayor, Court of Aldermen, and Commons, in Common Council assembled, to deliver a Petition to this House.

The which (the Petitioners being withdrawn) was read; and likewise a printed Ordinance annexed, of 17 Januarii 1645, for the Raising of Horse, for Defence of the City of London; and for searching and apprehending of Papists, and other ill-affected Persons.

Resolved, &c. That an Ordinance be brought in on Thursday Morning next, according to the Desires of the Petitioners: And it is referred to Mr. Recorder, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Gott, and Mr. Hill, or any Two of them, to prepare and bring in this Ordinance accordingly: And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Gott.

The Petitioners were again called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, expressed unto them the true Sense this House has of their constant good Affections to this Parliament, and that no Alterations whatsoever can work any Change in their Duty and Love; for which he is to give them the heartiest Thanks, from this House, he can express. He is further commanded to take notice of the Lord Mayor's and Committee of Militia's ready Compliance with the Order of this House, in so seasonable sending down a very good Guard; for which he is likewise to return Thanks to the Lord Mayor, and the Committee of the Militia: Hereby the House understands very well, that the Committee of the Militia is very sensible of the tumultuous and distempered Humours that are now stirred; and therefore doubts not, but of themselves (to whom they refer it) they will take care, that such a convenient Guard may be appointed to attend the Houses, as may preserve them from any Disturbance or Interruption in their Counsels: As to the Request of the Petition, touching an Ordinance to the Purposes therein mentioned, they have done something in it; and have put it into a Way for further Consideration at their next Meeting.

Reduced Officers, &c.

Ordered, That the Petition of the reduced Officers, and the Ordinance concerning the Dutch Officers, be read on Thursday Morning next, the first Business.

Apprentices.

Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, an Ordinance be brought in upon the Petition of the Apprentices, now delivered in, and read.

Declaration concerning the Army.

WHEREAS the Lords and Commons did, by a Declaration of the Thirtieth of March last, declare their Sense upon a Petition, with the Representation thereunto annexed: And whereas they have been since informed, That the Petitioners intended not to give any Offence to the Parliament: And calling to mind the great and eminent Service done by the Army, to the Parliament and Kingdom: The Lords and Commons, being tender of the Honour of the said Army, have thought fit to Ordain and Declare, and be it Declared and Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, in the Parliament of England assembled, and by the Authority of the same, That the said former Declaration, of the Thirtieth of March, be rased and expunged out of the Books of the said Houses, and wholly taken away, and made void: And that no Member of the said Army shall receive any Damage, Prejudice, or Reproach, for any thing in the said former Declaration.