House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 11 June 1647

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 11 June 1647', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648, (London, 1802) pp. 206-208. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol5/pp206-208 [accessed 19 April 2024]

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Die Veneris, 11 Junii, 1647.

Prayers.

Dutch Officers.

AN Ordinance for paying the Dutch Officers the Sum of Seven thousand Eight hundred Fifty-two Pounds Five Shillings and Eight-pence Half-peny, with Interest for the same, from the Fourteenth Day of May last, unto Major Samuell Boza, out of the Receipts of the Grand Excise, in Course, for Satisfaction of the Arrears of the Dutch Officers, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Raising Horse.

An Ordinance for enabling the Committee of the Militia of the City of London to make Searches, and to raise Horse, was this Day read.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, this Day at Eleven of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the putting down of Committees; concerning their Messengers; concerning the reduced Officers which are not provided for; and upon the Votes for Governors of Garisons, sent to the Lords from this House.

Answer.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message; and doth agree to give a Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Hollis, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Rigby, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Raising Horses.

The Ordinance for Enabling the Committee of the Militia of the City of London to make Searches, and raise Horses, was read the Second time.

Message Lords.

Mr. Greene carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Votes for taking off the Excise upon Flesh, and upon Salt made in this Kingdom, from the Four-and-Twentieth Day of this Instant June: The Vote for a Committee of both Houses to visit Joachimi, the Dutch Resident, upon his being recalled: The Votes for giving Leave for Mr. Marshall and Mr. Caryll to return from their Attendance upon the King: An Ordinance for every Second Tuesday in the Month to be a Day of Recreation for Scholars and Apprentices: An Ordinance for Five thousand Pounds, Part of Ten Thousand Pounds formerly assigned out of Goldsmiths Hall, now to be paid out of Weavers Hall, for certain Officers: An Ordinance for Five thousand Pounds out of Weavers Hall, Part of the Twenty thousand Pounds assigned out of Goldsmiths Hall, for the private Soldiers: And the Ordinance for Seven thousand Eight hundred Fifty-and-two Pounds Five Shillings Eight-pence Halfpeny, to be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, with Interest, for the Dutch Officers.

He was further to desire the Lords to put off the Conference, and to sit this Afternoon.

Army.

A Letter from the Commissioners employed to the Army, from Royston, of 11 Junii, 1647, Two of the Clock in the Morning, sent up by Mr. Scawen and Mr. Povey, Two of the Commissioners.

The Answer of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and of the Officers attending him at Cambridge, unto the Desires of the Earl of Nottingham, and the rest of the Commissioners of Parliament, in Order to the Prosecution of their Instructions, dated 10 Junii, 1647.

A Paper, in Print, intituled, "A Solemn Engagement of the Army under the Command of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax;" with a Declaration of their Resolutions as to Disbanding; the Opinion of the Committee of Lords and Commons appointed to resort to the Army, upon the General's Answer, sent unto them by Mr. Rushworth, dated, at Cambridge, the Tenth of June 1647; were all this Day read.

Removing the King to Oatland.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler;

The Lords desire, that, at this next Conference, they may be admitted to speak to the Vote, formerly sent to this House, for removing the King's Person to Oatlands.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Greene brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Orders and Ordinances carried by him concerning the Excise, and otherwise; and do agree to adjourn the Conference; and will sit this Afternoon; and have appointed one Lord to join with a proportionable Number of this . . . ., to give a Visit to Heer Joachimi, upon his leaving the Kingdom.

Attending Ambassador.

Sir Hen. Vane senior, Sir Henry Mildmay, are appointed to join with the Member of the Lords House in this Service.

House to sit.

Resolved, &c. That this House do sit this Afternoon at Two of the Clock.

Army.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House, to take care and give Order for the quartering Captain Farmer's Company of Dragoons, who are come off from the Army: And that Alderman Bunce, and the rest of the Treasurers at Weavers Hall, do pay the Sum of Two hundred Pounds, upon Account, to such as the said Committee at Derby House shall appoint to receive the same, to be issued and employed by Order of the said Committee, for the Service of the said Company, and Discharge of their Quarters: And that the Acquittance of the said Person or Persons, to be appointed by the said Committee, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Treasurers at Weavers Hall, for Payment of the said Two hundred Pounds.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That all such Officers or Soldiers of the Army, as shall come off, and conform to the Votes sent down to the Army, shall receive the Benefit and Advantage of those Votes.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds be paid, upon Account, by Alderman Bunce, and the rest of the Treasurers at Weavers Hall, to such Person or Persons as the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, and the Committee of the Army, joined as to this Business, or any Six of them, shall appoint to receive the same; and issued by Order and Directions of the said Committee so joined, or any Six of them, for the Payment of such Officers or Soldiers as shall come off from the Army, according to the Votes sent last to the Army, touching such as disband, or engage for the Service of Ireland; being such of the Army as were mustered upon the last Muster, before the Votes passed both Houses for Disbanding: And that the Acquittance of the Person or Persons appointed by the Committee so joined as aforesaid, or any Six of them, to receive the said Ten thousand Pounds, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Treasurers at Weavers Hall, for the Payment of the said Sum of Ten thousand Pounds, accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Post Meridiem.

Message to Lords.

SIR Robert Pye carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Votes concerning such Officers or Soldiers as shall come off from the Army: An Order for Two hundred Pounds, out of Weavers Hall, for Captain Farmer's Company of Dragoons: And Order for Ten thousand Pounds, out of Weavers Hall, for such as shall come off from the Army, to pay them according to the Votes last sent to the Army.

Answer.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Votes and Orders carried by him.

Lords to sit.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords will sit awhile, as is desired.

Suppressing Tumults.

Safety of the City.

Resolved, &c. That a Committee of Lords and Commons do join with the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, to advise, order and direct, How the Forces of London, Westminster, Lines of Communication, and weekly Bills of Mortality, may be put into a Posture of Defence, for the Suppression of all Insurrections and Tumults that may arise within the Cities of London, Westminster, Lines of Communication, and weekly Bills of Mortality, and for the Safety of the Parliament and City: And that the Power of this Committee shall continue for a Month.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir Robert Harley carried this Vote to the Lords; and was to desire them speedily to nominate their Committee, that this House may nominate a Committee of a proportionable Number, to go forthwith to the Committee of the Militia.

He was likewise to desire them to sit awhile.

Army.

Resolved, &c. That a Letter be prepared, and sent to the General, to require, that the Army may march back, and not advance within Forty Miles of the City of London. Mr. Holles, Sir John Evelyn of Wilts, Mr. Swynfen, Colonel Birch, or any Two of them, are appointed to withdraw, and prepare this Letter.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Harley brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Vote carried to them by him; and will sit awhile.

Raising Horses.

The House resumed the Consideration of the Ordinance for enabling the Committee of the Militia of the City of London to make Searches, and raise Horses: The which was twice read in the Forenoon.

A Proviso was offered to be added to the Ordinance: The which was read; and was, That this Ordinance shall continue for One Month, and no longer.

The which Proviso passed, upon the Question; and is ordered to be added to the Ordinance.

And then the Ordinance, with the Proviso, passed, upon the Question; and is ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Robert Pye carried it to the Lords immediately.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler;

That the Lords have appointed . . . . . . of their Members, to go, so soon as the House riseth, to the Militia of London, concerning the Vote now brought up by this House: The Number of the Lords are Twelve; the Quorum Three. They have sent an Ordinance for Defence of the Kingdom and Parliament: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House. They have sent an Ordinance concerning the Committee of the Militia of the City of London: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Safety of the City.

Mr. Hollis, Lord Lisle, Mr. Allen, Mr. Recorder, Sir Phil. Stapilton, Colonel Birch, Sir Henry Mildmay, Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Ashurst, Mr. Nicoll, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Colonel Thompson, Sir Henry Vane, senior, Mr. John Ashe, Sir Richard Onslow, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Mr. Walter Long, Sir John Maynard, Colonel Venne, Colonel Norton, Sir John Clotworthy, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Buckley, Mr. Whitelock:

This Committee, or any Six of them, is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to join with the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, to advise, order, and direct, How the Forces of London, Westminster, Lines of Communication, and weekly Bills of Mortality, may be put into a Posture of Defence, for the Suppression of all Insurrections and Tumults that may arise within the Cities of London, Westminster, Lines of Communication, and weekly Bills of Mortality, and for the Safety of the Parliament and City: And that the Power of this Committee shall continue for a Month.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed a Committee of a proportionable Number to join with the Committee of the Militia, according to the Vote: To the rest they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Wansey sent for in custody.

Resolved, &c. That Major Wansey be forthwith sent for in safe Custody, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House: And that he do attend the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to join with the Committee of the Militia of London for the Safety of the Parliament and City.

Anselme's Pass.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Speaker shall give a Pass to Colonel Wm. Anselme, to transport his Men into Flanders.

Safety of the City.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to join with the Committee of the Militia, to confer with the said Committee; and, upon Advice with them, to call into the City (if they think fit) Colonel Grevis, Colonel Pye's, and the other Horse, Foot, and Dragoons, that are come off from the Army: And that they inform the Houses from time to time, What Forces they do call in.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Bainton carried it to the Lords; and was to desire * * * * .

Answer to Lords.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance carried by him.

Supply for Ireland.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for advancing Ten thousand Pounds to the Committee at Derby House, for the Service of Ireland, be read To-morrow Morning.

Letter to the City.

The House being informed, That divers Aldermen, and other Citizens of the City of London, were at the Door;

They were called in: And Sheriff Edmonds informed the House, That he was commanded by the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London, to acquaint this House, That, this Day about Eleven of the Clock, by Two Messengers that looked like Soldiers, they received a Letter from the General, directed to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen and Common Council of the City of London: Of which they brought a Copy, together with the Desires of the Common Council hereupon.

The Letter was read; and was from Royston, of 10 Maii, 1647; and was directed to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London; and was subscribed, T. Fairefaxe, Oliver Cromwell, Robert Hamond, H. Ireton, Tho. Rainborow, Thomas Hamond, Hardres Waller, N. Rich, T. Pride, R. Lilborne, J. Desborow, J. Lambert, T. Harrison.

Safety of the City.

Colonel Harvey and Mr. Gott are appointed to go to the Committee of the Militia of the City of London; and to acquaint them, That there is a Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to come unto them, to order and advise concerning the Safety of the Parliament and City; and to desire them to sit, and to be ready to meet with the said Committee.

Mr. Bainton brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the additional Power to the Committee of the Militia, concerning calling in the Forces that are come off from the Army.

Mr. Swynfen reports a Letter to be sent to the General, The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and carried to the Lords immediately, by Sir John Clotworthy.

The Sheriffs, Aldermen, and Citizens, were again called in: And Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the House has taken into Consideration the Copy of the Letter brought; the Original whereof, it seems, is with you: As it is a Matter of great Consequence, so they perceive your faithful Care in it; for which they give you Thanks. According to your Desire, they have writ a Letter to the General, concerning the Motions and Quarters of his Army: They had it in Consideration before they received your Desires therein: They have appointed a Committee of Lords and Commons to join with the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, to order and direct for the Safety of Parliament and City: They desire you to acquaint the Committee of the Militia, That the Committee of Lords and Commons will presently come unto them: They further desire (not knowing what Necessity may be for it), that the Common Council may continue sitting.

Sir John Clotworthy brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Letter to be sent to the General, carried to him by them.

Safety of the Kingdom.

An Ordinance, sent from the Lords, for appointing a Committee to consider, and put in Execution, all Things that in their Wisdoms shall seem necessary for the Safety of the Kingdom, Parliament, and City, was this Day read the First and Second time: And, with the Alteration of the Committee of Lords and Commons, this Day appointed to join with the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, instead of the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland, sitting at Derby House; and adding a Proviso at the End of the Ordinance, That this Ordinance shall continue for a Month, and no longer; the Ordinance thus amended, upon the Question, passed.

Message to Lords.

Sir Wm. Lewes returned it to the Lords: And was to acquaint them, That this House had adjourned to Seven of Clock this Morning; and to desire the Lords to do the like, if it may stand with their Convenience.

Safety of the Kingdom.

BE it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the Committee of Lords and Commons, this Day appointed to join with the Committee of the Militia of the City of London, shall be, and are hereby made and appointed, a Committee to consult, advise, and put in Execution, all Ways and Means, which in their Judgment may be necessary for the Safety and Defence of the Kingdom, Parliament, and City: With Power to raise Horse and Foot for that Purpose; and to send unto the Militia and Common Council of the City of London, and all Committees, Deputy Lieutenants, or other Person or Persons, such as they shall think fit, for their Advice and Assistance, in order thereunto. Provided, That this Ordinance shall continue for a Month, and no longer.