House of Commons Journal Volume 5
15 June 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 15 June 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 210-212. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25108 Date accessed: 02 October 2014.


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Die Martis, 15 Junii, 1647.

Prayers.

Army Commissioners.

ORDERED, That Mr. Marshall and Mr. Nye be desired to go down to reside with the Commissioners with the Army.

Sir John Trevor and Mr. Green are appointed to give them Notice of this Order and Desire of this House.

A Letter from the Commissioners with the Army, from St. Albans, of 14 Junii 1647, was read.

Sir John Potts, Mr. Samuel Browne, Sir Arthur Heselrige, Mr. Ashurst, are appointed to withdraw, to prepare a Letter, to be sent to the Commissioners with the Army, to satisfy them, that there are no Forces raised here; and further to signify unto them, that, for the other Particulars in their Letter, this House can give no Answer unto them, until they receive the General's Resolution of marching back Forty Miles from London, according to the former Direction of both Houses.

Mr. Samuel Browne reports from the Committee, a Letter in Answer to the Letter of the Commissioners, of 14 of this Instant June: The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and forthwith sent away to the Commissioners.

King's Person.

The Question was propounded, That the General be required to deliver the Person of the King to such Persons as both Houses shall appoint; to be placed at Richmond, under such Guards, and in such Manner, as they shall think fit;

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir Michael Livesay, Tellers for the Noe: 110.
Mr. Prideaux, With the Noe,
Sir Edward Hungerford, Tellers for the Yea: 140.
Mr. Doyley, With the Yea,

The Question being put, That the General be required to deliver the Person of the King to such Persons as both Houses shall appoint; to be placed at Richmond, under such Guards, and in such Manner, as they shall think fit;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea: 146.
Mr. Recorder, With the Yea,
Sir Michael Livesay, Tellers for the Noe: 115.
Mr. Marten, With the Noe,

So the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Resolved, &c. That the General be required to deliver the Person of the King to such Persons as both Houses shall appoint; to be placed at Richmond, under such Guards, and in such Manner, as they shall think fit; to the Intent that the Propositions agreed upon by both Kingdoms may be speedily presented unto his Majesty, for the Settling of a safe and well-grounded Peace.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Persons to whom the General is required to deliver the Person of the King, to be placed at Richmond, shall be the Commissioners formerly appointed to receive the Person of the King at Newcastle, or any Three of them.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Guards appointed to receive the Orders and Directions of the Commissioners in attending and guarding the Person of the King, shall be Colonel Rosseter, and his Regiment.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Hereford Castle.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired in appointing Colonel Samuell Moore to be Governor of the Castle of Hereford.

Army.

Ordered, That Colonel Townsend's Regiment be hereby required and commanded forthwith to be shioped and transported into Ireland, for the Service of that Kingdom.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Harley and the Gentlemen of Herefordshire, and Colonel Birch, do, this Afternoon, meet with the Committee at Derby House, to put that Business in such a way as that Colonel Birche's Forces contracted for, to be transported into Ireland, may forthwith march, and be transported for that Service.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to take care for the Pay of Colonel Greves, and of his Officers, and Soldiers, that are come off from the Army, in like manner as was appointed for such Officers and Soldiers as formerly came off from the Army.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Weymouth Garison.

The humble Petition of the Governor and Officers of the Garison of Weymouth was this Day read; and was, for a Supply of Monies for the Pay of the Soldiery there: And.

It is thereupon Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the West, to take care for the Payment of the Sum of Six hundred Pounds for the Use of the Garison of Weymouth, out of the Remainder of Sir John Hele's Fine, not yet disposed of.

Cavalry for Ireland.

Sir Philip Stapilton reports from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, Colonel Ponsonbye's Propositions for the Raising of Seven Hundred Horsemen for the Service of Ireland: The which were read; and were, upon the Question, approved of; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

The said Propositions were in hæc verba; viz.

He propounds, That he will have Seven hundred Horsemen, well mounted with Pistols and Saddles, ready, within Twenty Days; to be transported for that Service, after he shall have received a Month's Pay; to be under the Command of a Colonel, Major, and Seven Captains:

That they will be at such Rendezvous as this Committee shall appoint:

Upon Condition,

1. That he may have Two Months Pay: One Month presently; within Twenty Days after the Receipt whereof, the Seven hundred Horse to be ready: And one other Month's Pay, when they are on Shipboard.

2. That their Transportation may be at the Charge of the State.

3. That he may be furnished, at the Charge of the State, with One hundred Pair of Pistols with Holsters; One hundred Saddles; and Two hundred and Fifty defensive Arms; and a Surgeon's Chest.

4. That he may have Twelve pence per diem for each Trooper during all the Time that they shall be ready at the Waterside, and shall stay there, in Expectancy either of Wind and Weather, or of Shipping for their Transportation.

5. That he may have Commissions for all his Officers.

Ordered, That the Committee at Derby House, for the Affairs of Ireland, do give Commissions to the Officers of Colonel Ponsonbie's Regiment of Horse that are to go for Ireland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Birch's Accompts.

The Certificate of the Committee of Accompts, figned the 21st of May 1647, of the State of the Accompts of Colonel John Birch, a Member of this House, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, approved of.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel John Birch, a Member of this House, shall have the publick Faith of the Kingdom of England, for the Sum of Four thousand Nine hundred and Seven Pounds Seven Shillings and Four-pence, being approved of, and allowed to him, upon the Stating of his Accompt, by the Committee of Accompts; in full of all Sums of Money and Demands now due unto him from the Parliament and Kingdom of England.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Kinght's Claims.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Francis Knight, at the Sign of the Golden Lock in Cheapside, London, Mercer, shall have the Publick Faith of this Kingdom, for the Sum of One thousand and Fifty Pounds lent by Colonel John Birch, now a Member of this House, and others, unto Colonel Thomas Essex at Bristoll, the Fifteenth Day of December 1642; and likewise for the Interest due for the said Sum, from the Time of the Lending thereof, until the same shall be paid unto him.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Holles carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Votes this Day made, concerning the Delivery of the Person of the King, and for his coming unto Richmond, and the Guards that are to attend him: Colonel Ponsonbie's Propositions for raising Seven hundred Horsemen for the Service of Ireland: And was to put them in mind of the Ordinance for Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem, for the Maintenance of the Forces of England and Ireland.

Officers Pay.

Colonel Birch reports an Ordinance for authorizing the Treasurers at Christ Church to pay, upon Thursday next, unto the Officers in Commission, who have attended in this Town, and have their Accompts stated by Authority of Parliament, and have received no Monies thereupon, Six Weeks Pay: The which was read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the several Votes concerning the King; and to Colonel Ponsonbie's Proposition for raising of Seven hundred Horse so the Service of Ireland: And as to the Ordinance for the Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Officers Arrears.

Colonel Birch reported another Ordinance for the Payment of a Months Pay of their Arrears, unto those Officers in Commission that are now attending in Town, whose Accompts are not yet stated: The which was read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Army.

Mr. Holles carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order referring the Care of Colonel Greves, and his Officers and Soldiers, to the Committee for Irish Affairs, at Derby House; for providing for them, in like manner as for others that are come off from the Army.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order concerning Colonel Greves, and his Officers and Soldiers, that are come off from the Army.

King's Person.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Sadler and Mr. Hakewill;

The Lords desire the Concurrence of this House to these Letters: The one is, to Sir Thomas Fairfax; the other, to the Commissioners with the King: They are, for the Removal of the King's Person to Richemond.

The Letters were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do concur in the Letters to the General, and the Commissioners.

Representation from the Army.

Colonel White and Mr. Povey, Two of the Commissioners appointed to go to the Army, returned thence; and delivered into the House a Letter from the said Commissioners with the Army, from St. Albans, dated 15Junii 1647, at Two of the Clock; and also a Representation from his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and the Army under his Command, signed John Rushworth, Secretary: The which were both of them read: And

It is thereupon Ordered, That the Representation from the Army be read again, and taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That a Letter be written to the Commissioners with the Army, to let them know, That the House has received their Letter, and the Representation inclosed; and have read them: By which they find there is yet something behind, which is to be added: And that this House intends to take the same into a speedy Consideration as soon as they have the whole before them.

Mr. Whitelock, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Allen, and Mr. Samuell Browne, are to prepare this Letter: And Mr. Speaker is to sign the same; to the end it may be forthwith sent to the Commissioners.

Parliament Guard.

Ordered, That Mr. Francis Allen and Colonel Wilson do desire the Militia of the City of London to send Four full Companies of Trained Bands for the Guard of the Parliament, To-morrow Morning: And that they be at Westminster by Seven of the Clock.

Officers Pay.

Colonel Birch reports an Ordinance for the Payment of one Month's Pay, upon Saturday next, unto the Officers named in the Four Lists reported to this House about November last: The which was read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That the House do take into Consideration the first Business, To-morrow Morning, Out of what Place Monies shall be assigned for the Officers, in pursuance of the several Ordinances this Day passed, concerning them: And that no other Business do intervene.

Indemnity, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee formerly appointed to provide for the Indemnity of such as have served the Parliament, to receive and examine the particular Complaints of such Officers and Soldiers as have been employed in the Service of the Parliament, and are now under Restraint, or imprisoned, upon any Action upon mesne Process: And have Power, if they shall see Cause, to set them at Liberty; and likewise any other Officers that shall happen to be arrested, during their Time of being in actual Service, or that have any Arrears due to them.

Army.

Mr. Whitelock reports, from the Committee, a Letter to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to the Commissioners now with the Army: The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.