House of Commons Journal Volume 5
13 October 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 13 October 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 332. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25199 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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Die Mercurii, 13 Octobris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Army Pay.

THE Grand Committee sat to consider of providing a certain future Pay for the Soldiers of England and Ireland; and a Means of paying the Arrears to the Soldiery.

Mr. White in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Church Government.

Colonel Birche reports from the Committee appointed to consider of a Proposition touching Church Government, and of an Exemption for tender Consciences.

Resolved, &c. That the King be desired to give his Consent to such Act or Acts of Parliament as shall be presented unto him, for settling the Presbyterian Government, according to such Ordinances as have already, since the Sitting of this Parliament, passed both Houses, and herewithal sent.

The Question being put, That these Words, "to stand in Force for Three Years," shall be in the Question propounded, concerning the Presbyterian Government;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Lieut. General Cromwell, Tellers for the Yea: 35.
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Yea,
Sir Walter Erle, Tellers for the Noe: 38.
Mr. Bossevile. With the Noe,

The Question being put, That a Time be limited in this Proposition for the Presbyterian Government;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Lieut. General Cromwell, Tellers for the Yea: 44.
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Yea,
Sir Walter Erle, Tellers for the Noe: 30
Colonel Purefoy, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

The Question being put, That the Time limited shall be Seven Years;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Lieut. General Cromwell, Tellers for the Yea: 33.
Mr. Lawrence, With the Yea,
Sir Walter Erle, Tellers for the Noe: 41.
Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, With the Noe,

So the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the Time shall be to the End of the next Session of Parliament, after the End of this present Session.

Resolved, &c. That these Words, in the said Proposition, "after the King shall give his Consent," be left out: And then the said Proposition, runs thus: "Which Act or Acts are to stand in force to the End of the next Session of Parliament, after the End of this present Session:" And then the whole Vote runs thus; videlicet,

Resolved, &c. That the King be desired to give his Consent to such Act or Acts of Parliament as shall be presented unto him, for the settling of the Presbyterian Government, according to such Ordinances as have already, since the Sitting of this Parliament, passed both Houses, and are herewith sent: Which Act or Acts are to stand in force to the End of the next Session of Parliament, after the End of this present Session.

Resolved, &c. That, in this Indulgence that shall be given, One Restriction shall be; "so as nothing be done by them to the Disturbance of the Peace of the Kingdom."

Resolved, &c. That all Tythes, or other Maintenance, appertaining to any Church or Chapel, which do now belong to the Ministers of such Churches or Chapels, shall be applied to the Use and Benefit of such Ministers as do conform to the Government settled in the said Ordinances, and to no other.

Resolved, &c. That nothing in this Provision shall extend to any Toleration of the Popish Religion; nor to exempt any Popish Recusants from any Penalties imposed upon them for the Exercise of the same.

Resolved, &c. That this Indulgence shall not extend to tolerate the Printing, Publishing, or Preaching, of any thing contrary to the Principles of Christian Religion, as they are contained in the First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, Eleventh, Twelfth, Thirteenth, Fourteenth, Fifteenth Articles of the Church of England, according to the true Sense and Meaning of them; and as they have been cleared and vindicated by the Assembly of Divines, now sitting at Westminster.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the House do proceed in the Debate of this Business, remaining upon the Report made by Colonel Birche.

Impeachment of the Seven Lords.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, Mr. Lisle do go to the Lords to desire them to appoint a Time, when the House may come to them with their Proofs and Evidences against the Seven Lords, impeached of Treason.