House of Commons Journal Volume 5
16 October 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 16 October 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 335-336. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25202 Date accessed: 23 October 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 16 Octobris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Grant to Lady Shirley.

ORDERED, That the Sum of One hundred Pounds be charged upon the Moiety of the Receipts at Goldsmiths Hall, in Course, not given for Security; and advanced and bestowed upon Sir George Shirley; and paid unto the Lady Shirley, Wise of the said Sir George Shirley, lately deceased: And that the lamentable distressed Case and Condition of the Family of Sir George Shirley be especially recommended unto the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall. And the said Committee and Treasurers there are earnestly desired to advance, and presently pay, unto the said Lady Shirley the said Sum of One hundred Pounds, to be employed for the Interring of the said Sir George Shirley, and for Relief of the said Family.

Sir Francis Willoughby.

Ordered, That the Business concerning Sir Francis Willoughby be taken into Consideration on Thursday next, the first Business, after the Reports from the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall.

Absent Members.

Upon Mr. Ball's Report, from the Committee for absent Members, of the Causes of the Absence of Sir Anthony Irby and Colonel Wayte;

It is Resolved, &c. That the respective Fines of Twenty Pounds, deposited by the said Sir Antony Irby and Colonel Wayte, be restored unto them, respectively.

A Person committed.

Ordered, That Richard Lownes, who hath published and vended a libellous seditious Pamphlet, intituled, "Mercurius Pragmaticus," be forthwith committed Prisoner to Newgate: And that he be brought to the next Sessions of Gaol-delivery; and there tried and punished according to Law and Justice in the like Cases.

Suppressing Stage Plays, &c.

For the better Suppression of Stage-plays, Interludes, and Common Players; It is this Day Ordered, by the and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the Lord Mayor, Justices of the Peace, and Sheriffs of the Cities of London and Westminster, the Counties of Middlesex and Surrey, or any Two or more of them, shall and may, and are hereby authorized and required to enter into all Houses, and other Places, within the City of London, and Liberties thereof, and other Places within their respective Jurisdictions, where Stage-plays, Interludes, or other common Plays, are or shall be acted or played; and all such common Players, or Actors, as they, upon view of them, or any one of them, or upon Oath by Two credible Witnesses (which they are hereby authorized to minister), shall be proved before them, or any Two of them, to have acted or played in such Playhouses or Places abovesaid; and all Person and Persons so offending to commit to any common Gaol or Prison; there to remain until the next General Sessions of the Peace, holden within the said City of London, or Liberties thereof, and Places aforesaid, or sufficient Security entered for his or their Appearance at the said Sessions; there to be punished as Rogues, according to Law.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Propositions to the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler:

The Lords have commanded us to bring unto you Propositions, in Sixteen Papers: Their Lordships Message, which should be delivered by them, for fear of Mistake, is put down in Writing, and contained in this Paper.

The which was read; and was in hæc verba; viz.

"That the Matter of the Propositions, which have been sent to this House from the House of Commons, now drawn into Form; and the Propositions now sent to the House of Commons from the House of Peers; be those which shall be sent to the King; without any other Addition.

"To put the House of Commons in mind of the Message, sent from this House, concerning acquainting the Scotts with sending to the King."

"That there be a Committee of both Houses appointed, to join with the Commissioners of Scotland, to carry the Propositions to the King; and to enforce, by Reasons and Arguments, the Justness and Necessity of his Majesty's giving his Consent unto them; and humbly to desire and insist upon his Majesty's giving his positive Answer and Consent; and to return to the Houses of Parliament within Ten Days."

The Question being put, That the House shall now consider of the Manner of the Address to be made to the King;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Lieut.General Cromwell, Tellers for the Yea: 46.
Mr. Marten, With the Yea,
Sir John Danvers, Tellers for the Noe: 66.
Sir Walter Erle, With the Noe:

So the Question passed with the Negative.

The Sixteen Papers, sent from the Lords in this Message, were read.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the first Paper, concerning the Militia.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the Second Paper, concerning raising of Monies.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the Third Paper, concerning Titles of Honour.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the Fourth Paper, concerning the Great Seal.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the Fifth Paper, concerning the abolishing Bishops, and Sale of Bishops Lands.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Matter contained in the Sixth Paper, concerning the abolishing of Bishops.

Resolved, &c. That on Monday Morning next, the first Business, the House do proceed in the Consideration of the particular Papers, now sent from the Lords in this Message.

Ordered, That it be referred to a Committee to consider of these particular Papers, now sent from the Lords; and to state unto the House, on Monday Morning, the Difference that is between these Papers and the Propositions last agreed on by both Houses; and to consider of the Additions; and to state the Matter of them to this House; viz. unto Sir Henry Mildmay, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Scott, Mr. Ball, Mr. John Corbett, Mr. Hill, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Colonel Puresoy, Mr. Strickland, Mr. Nath Fienis, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr. Swyenfen, Mr. Selden, Mr. George Fenwick, Mr. Snellying, Mr. Bois, Mr. Ravenscroft; or any Five of them: Who are to meet upon it this Afternoon at Three of Clock, in the Court of Wards; And are to report on Monday Morning.

Tythes.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning Tythes, or any Five of them, shall have Power to meet.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. John Thomas, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country; and be dispensed with for his Absence on the Third of November next, notwithstanding the former Order.

Ordered, That Sir John Trevour, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country for Three Weeks; and be dispensed with for his Absence on the Third of November next, notwithstanding the former Order.