Die Sabbati, 30 Octobris, 1647.
Message from Lords.
A MESSAGE from the Lords, by Sir Edward
Leech and Mr. Page;
The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both
Houses, concerning the Propositions to be sent to the
King, this Day at Eleven of Clock, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.
They have sent the Petition and Ordinance for the Minister of the Church of Olaves in Soutkwark: In which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
They desire to put the House in mind of a Petition of
Mrs. Martha Pygott; which they desire you to take into
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree to the Conference, as is desired.
Mr. Bois, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Swynfen, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Resolved, &c. That the Report of the Visitors, concerning the Visitation of the University of Oxon, be
referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Lords
and Commons for regulating the University of Oxon, to
hear and determine the Business; and to apply effectual
Remedies, as the Cases may require.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Mr. Rous is appointed to carry it to the Lords.
Ordered, That the Committee appointed for removing
all Obstructions in the Sale of Bishops Lands, or any Five
of them, have Power to meet, from time to time.
The humble Petition of Mrs. Martha Pygott was
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Consideration
of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby
House, to consider of the Matter of Fact represented in
the Petition; and to state it to the House, together with
their Opinions thereupon.
An Ordinance, sent from the Lords, for appointing
Wm. Ames Master in Arts, a godly, learned, and orthodox
Divine, Rector of the Rectory of Olaves in Southwark,
was this Day read; and, with the Addition of a Proviso
for his paying of all such First Fruits, Tythes, and Duties,
as are due and payable by reason of his Incumbency
there, upon the Question, passed.
Ordered, That on Monday next, the Committee for
the Affairs of Ireland, do make Report concerning
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has considered their Lordships Message; and do
agree to the Conference desired: To the rest, they will
send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That, on Monday next, the Letter from the
General, of 27 Octobris, with a Paper inclosed, concerning the Arrears of the Soldiers, be read.
Mr. Trenchard reports the State and Condition of those
Lands are now in which, by Ordinance of Parliament,
of 7Octobris 1645, were appointed to be within the
Government of the Committee of Parliament for raising
of Six thousand Pounds per Annum for the Use of his
Highness Lodovick the Prince Elector; and how they are
sithence disposed of; and of the Arrears of the said Revenue.
He did likewise tender a Schedule of Two thirds of
Recusants Estates, for a Supply of his Revenue, now read.
Ordered, That the Schedule, now presented, of the
Two-Thirds of Recusants Estates, be referred to the
Consideration of the Committee for the Prince Elector to
consider, How, out of the said Estates, the yearly Sum of
Eight thousand Pounds, and the Arrears thereof, may be
brought in, and duly paid, for the Support of the said
Prince Elector: And are to prepare and bring in an
Ordinance to this Purpose.
It is further Ordered, That Sir Anthony Irby, Mr.
Strickland, Sir Gregory Norton, Mr. Lawrence, Lord
Carre, Mr. Lane, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Boscawen, Mr.
Wm. Pierepoint, Mr. Humfry Edwards, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Stapilton, Sir John Trevour, Mr. Marten, Mr.
Weaver, Mr. Ashhurst, Sir Tho. Jervoise, be added to
this Committee, to whom, by former Ordinance, the
Management and bringing in the Revenue, assigned by
Ordinance to the Prince Elector, is referred.
Isle of Providence.
Ordered, That the Reports and Petition of Colonel
Randall Manwaring, and others, and concerning the Isle
of Providence, be taken into Consideration on Tuesday
Morning next, the first Business, after the Reports from
Ordered, That the Report concerning the Princess
Elizabeth, eldest Daughter of the Queen of Bohemia, be
made on Friday Morning next, the first Business.
Receiver of Yorkshire.
Ordered, That the Report concerning the Receiver of
Yorkshire be made from the Committee of the Revenue
on Monday Morning next.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Rous carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence,
the Ordinance concerning the Hundred and Fifty thousand
Pounds, charged for the Army upon the Receipts of the
Excise: The Vote for Approbation of the Articles of
Exon: The Order concerning the Lady Moore: The Vote
for Francis Penrose to be Captain of the Ship Hector:
The Order upon the Report from the Visitors of Oxon:
An Ordinance, by way of Declaration, concerning some
Doubts made by some of the Committee of the County of
Bucks, named in the Ordinance for the Sixty thousand
Pounds per mensem: The Return of the Ordinance for
making Mr. Wm. Ames Rector of Olives, Southwarke,
with a Proviso for his paying his First Fruits and Tenths.
Mr. Rous brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to
all the Particulars carried to them by him.
Propositions to the King.
Mr. Swynfen reports from the Conference, That the
Lords do agree to all the Propositions, delivered by this
House at the last Conference, except Three.
The First of which was that concerning Delinquents:
To which they cannot agree; first, Because the Seven
excepted from Pardon of Life are not named: Next, Because those others that are not intended to be proceeded
against as to Life, have no Proportion of their Estates
assigned to them, nor no Fines set upon them; and
therefore they do adhere to their own Proposition.
The Second was that concerning Religion: To which
they do agree; with an Addition herewith sent.
The Third was that concerning the Arrears of the
Army: To which they do agree; with one Alteration.
They have appointed a Committee of Twelve, whereof
Five to be of the Quorum, to reduce the Propositions
into Form; and desire this House to nominate a Committee of a proportionable Number.
The First Branch of the Proposition, sent from the
Lords, concerning Delinquents, which Names the Persons
excepted from Pardon, being put to the Question, for the
Concurrence of this House;
It passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the
Proposition, concerning Delinquents, as it was sent from
The Lords first Addition to the Proposition, now
delivered at the Conference concerning Religion, was
now put to the Question, for the Concurrence of this
And the Question passed with the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the
Lords in their Second Addition, delivered at this Conference, to the Proposition concerning Religion.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the
Matter of the Proposition, as it was sent from this House,
concerning the Arrears of the Soldiery.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the
Lords, in appointing a Committee of a proportionable
Number to reduce the Propositions to be now sent to
the King into Form; viz. Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Bois, Mr.
Swynfen, Mr. Marten, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Sir Walter
Erle, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Nicholas, Mr. Whittacre, Colonel Purefoy, Mr. Nath. Fienis, Mr. Miles Corbett, Mr.
Erle, Mr. Scawen, Mr. John Corbett, Mr. Scott, Mr.
John Francklyn, Sir John Danvers, Sir Martyn Lomley;
Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Grove, Mr. Selden.
Mr. Samuell Browne, or any Ten of them, are appointed
to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number
of the Lords, to reduce the Propositions into Form that
shall be now agreed to be sent to the King.
Resolved, &c. That a free Conference be desired with
the Lords, on Monday Morning next, upon the Matter
of the last Conference, touching the Propositions to be
now sent to the King.
Ordered, That Mr. Boys, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Prideaux, Colonel Purefoy, and
Mr. Serjeant Wilde, be appointed Managers of the free
Conference: And that it be referred to any Three of
them, to prepare Reasons, to be offered to the Lords at
the free Conference, for the Houses either adhering to
their former Propositions, or denying any of the Additions
made by the Lords.