House of Commons Journal Volume 5
1 November 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 1 November 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 347-348. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25215 Date accessed: 31 July 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 1 Novembris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Leave of Absence.

ORDERED, &c. That Sir Roger Northe, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country; notwithstanding a former Order of this House, that requires the Attendance of the Members on the Third of November next.

Manwaring's &c. Petition.

The humble Petition of Randall Manwaring, Nath. Hawes, George Payne, and others, concerning the Ship Elizabeth, taken in the Year 1637 by Eleven Sail of the Spanish West India Fleet, desiring Reparation by Letters of Reprisal against the Ship Santa Clara, and Proceed thereof, was this Day read.

Isle of Providence, &c.

The humbe Petition of the Governor and Company of Adventurers of the City of Westminster, for the Plantation of the Island of Providence, Henrietta, and the adjacent Islands, lying upon the Coast of America, was this Day read. And

It is Ordered, That this Petition, and the whole Matter depending upon it, be referred to the Court of Admiralty.

Manwaring's &c. Petition.

Ordered, That the aforesaid Petition of Randall Manwaring, Nath. Hawes, George Payne, and others, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Foreign Affairs; to state the Matter of Fact to the House; together with their Opinions, What they think fit to be done in this Business.

Message to Lords.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a free Conference, by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, upon the Matter of the last Conference touching the Propositions.

He likewise carried the Order for adding Colonel Robert Hamond to the Committee for the Isle of Weight.

Martial Law in Ireland.

Whereas there hath been a Commission given to Colonel George Moncke to command in Chief certain Forces, in the Province of Ulster in the Kingdom of Ireland, in the said Commission mentioned and expressed: For the better ordering, commanding, and disciplining the said Forces, and enabling the said Colonel Monke to promote the publick Service, and to discharge the Trust committed unto him, it is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, and by Authority of the same, That the said Colonel George Monke shall have Power and Authority, and is hereby required and authorized, from time to time, as there shall be Cause, to use, exercise and put in Execution the Law Martial, over all or any of the Forces that now are, or hereaster shall be, put under his Command; he observing and following, in the Execution thereof, those Rules and Articles of the Law Martial, published by Sir Thomas Fairfaxe for the Rule and Discipline of that Army. And all Officers and Soldiers, put under his Command, as aforesaid, are hereby required to take notice of this Power and Authority given unto him; and to be obedient and assistant unto him in the Execution thereof, accordingly.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order for adding Colonel Robert Hammond to the Committee of the Isle of Wight; and to a present free Conference, as is desired.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, do consider of and bring in an Estimate of the Charge of the Cloaths, Shoes, and Victuals, to be provided for the Forces in Ireland.

Ordered, That Mr. John Ashe, Colonel Jephson, Sir Robert Pye, Mr. Nath. Stephens, Mr. Edward Ashe, Sir Thomas Soame, Alderman Pennington, Mr. Anesly, Mr. Greene, Mr. Beddingfield, Mr. Challener, Mr. Lucas, Colonel Whitchead, Mr. Jesson, Mr. Stapilton, Mr. Rolle, Mr. Vassall, Sir Martin Lumley, Sir Wm. Allenson, Mr. Myles Corbett, Mr. Samuell Brown, Major General Browne, be added to the Committee formerly appointed for raising Monies for Ireland, where Mr. Pury has the Chair: And they, or any Five of them, are to confer with the Committee of the Army, with such Citizens as they shall think fit, and with any others, for raising Monies, and providing Cloaths, Shoes, and Victuals, for the Forces in Ireland, upon the Credit either of the Excise of the Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem, of the Arrears for Ireland, of Delinquents Estates, or otherwise, according to the Debate now had in the House: And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Nathaniell Stephens, Mr. Green, and Mr. Beddingfield: And are to report their Opinions to the House on Wednesday Morning next: And are to meet when and where they please.

Ordered, That Mr. Annesley, Mr. Thomas Scott, Colonel Sydney, Sir Wm. Allenson, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Mr. Priestly, Sir Wm. Massam, Colonel Temple, Mr. Westrow, Mr. John Stephens, Mr. Hodges of Bristoll, Mr. John Corbett, be added to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland in the Star Chamber: And they are to sit constantly, according to the Times limited in the Ordinance, and at such other Times as they shall think fit: And are to put in Execution the Powers granted unto them for bringing in the Arrears upon the Ordinances for Ireland: And are to examine the Accompts, How the Monies for Ireland have been disbursed; and report the State of those Disbursements and Accompts to the House.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Raising Money.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the Grand Committee do sit, where Colonel White has the Chair; to take into further Consideration the Raising of Monies, according to the former Order given to that Committee.

Colonel Lilbourne.

Ordered, That Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Strickland, Mr. Gell, Mr. Lawrence, Sir John Danvers, Sir. Ralph Ashton, Mr. Bond, Mr. Annesley, Sir John Trevour, Mr. Harrington, Mr. George Fenwick, Mr. Trevour, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Mr. Holland, Mr. Massam, Sir Henry Cholmley, Colonel Bossevile, be added to the Committee to which the Business concerning Lieutenant Colonel John Lilbourne, and other Matters, are referred: And all that will come are to have Voices at this Committee.

Committee of Accompts.

Resolved, &c. That the Charges of the Officers employed by the Committee of Accompts, and other incident Charges, be paid out of the first Monies that are brought in by the Committee of Accompts: And that Mr. John Stephens do prepare and bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

Leave of Absence.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Ashhurst, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country, to be absent for a Month; notwithstanding the former Order that requires the Members of this House to attend on the Third of November.

Raising Forces against the King, &c.

Resolved, &c. That the Information given to the House, concerning the subscribing a Petition, or Engagement, to raise Forces against the King, Parliament, and Army, be referred to the Examination and Consideration of the Committee of Complaints: Who are to report the Business, upon Examination, to the House.

Surprize of French Shipe.

A Letter from the Governor of Plymouth, from Plymouth, of 29 Octobris 1647, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Business mentioned in the said Letter, concerning the Surprize of a French Ship, be referred to the Examination and Consideration of the Committee for Foreign Affairs, and the Committee of the Admiralty and Cinque Ports: Who are to take a present and effectual Course in it.

Propositions to the King.

Mr. Swynfen reports the free Conference;

That the Lords do agree to the Proposition concerning Delinquents, and to the Proposition concerning the Arrears of the Army, as they were sent from this House; That they do adhere to the Alteration, desired to be made by their Lordships, in the Proposition concerning Religion.

The Question being put, For concurring with the Lords in the Addition, sent from the Lords, to the Proposition concerning Religion;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Colonel Whitehead, Tellers for the Noe: 44.
Mr. Rous, With the Noe,
Sir Arthur Hasilrige, Tellers for the Yea: 60.
Mr. Green, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Mr. Swynfen is appointed to go to the Lords To-morrow Morning, to acquaint them, That this House doth agree with them to the Alteration desired by them in the Proposition concerning Religion: And it is farther to acquaint them, That this House hath appointed a Committee of a proportionable Number to reduce the Propositions into Form; and to desire their Lordships to appoint a Time for that Committee to meet.