House of Commons Journal Volume 5
13 November 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 13 November 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 357-359. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25226 Date accessed: 01 August 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 13 Novembris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Percivall's Claims.

THE humble Petition of Katherin Lady Percivall, the Relict of Sir Philip Percivall Knight, deceased, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Sum of Two hundred Pounds be charged upon the Revenue, and paid forthwith by the Committee of the Revenue, to the Lady Percivall, Relict of Sir Philip Percivall, upon Account, to be deducted and allowed upon her Husband Sir Philip Percivall's Account.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That the Committee of Accompts do receive, state, and certify, the Accompts of Sir Philip Percivall Knight, deceased.

Papers seized.

Ordered, That the Papers sent by Sir John Wollaston, and taken upon one Mr. Boxe last Night, by the Watch, be referred to the Examination and Consideration of the Committee of Complaints: Who are presently to withdraw, to consider of those Papers; and report them to the House: And are likewise to examine Mr. Box, upon whom the Papers were taken.

Irish Army Pay, &c.

Whereas there was Ten thousand Pounds, by Ordinance of the Twelfth of June, appointed for paying and transporting Four Regiments of Foot into Ireland, that were come off from the Army; Part whereof was paid unto them; and that the said Regiments did not go into Ireland: It is Ordered, That the Residue of the Money that is now in the Hands of the Treasurer at Wars, be disposed by the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, for the present Subsistence of the Forces of Lemster, and those of Ulster, that came to their Assistance: And that, out of the same Money, the Remainder of the Money due unto Colonel Jones, upon his Contract for his Regiment of Horse, being about Three hundred and Sixty Pounds, be also paid unto him the said Colonel Jones.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Provisions for Ireland.

Mr. Pierepoint reports from the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, a Proposition of Mr. Davies, and Partners, for Making of Six thousand Poundsworth of Provisions for Ireland: The which was read, approved of, and agreed unto; viz.

It is humbly offered, That if One thousand Pounds in Hand may be paid, that Victuals, to the Values hereafter expressed, shall be delivered at the Rates and Places expressed.

£. s. d.
Wheat, at 4 - - the Quarter,
Rye, at 2 10 - the Quarter.
Oatmeal, 1 2 6 the Bow; every Bow weighing 120 Pounds Weight.
Oats, at 1 2 6 the Quarter.
Cheese, - - the Pound.
£
In Dublin, to the Value of 3,000
In Ulster, to the Value of 1,000
In Connaght, to the Value of 2,000
In all 6,000

For the Five thousand Pounds that will remain, Payment will be accepted on the Ordinances for Ireland, after all Money already charged on it is paid: Provided, That if the said Money be not paid out of the said Assessments within Twelve Months after the Delivery of the said Victuals, that then some other Course shall be taken for Payment of the said Advances some other Way; and Interest allowed him for what Time he shall want his Money, after the said Twelve Months, as aforesaid.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, do dispose of Six hundred and Forty Pounds of the Remainder of that Money, of the first Eighty thousand Pounds that was to be disposed of by the Committee of both Kingdoms, to Mr. Davies, in Part of that Bargain: And that the said Committee shall have Power also to dispose the rest of that Money in way of Salary to those that were employed as Under Treasurers at Grocers Hall.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Merchant Adventurers Loan.

Ordered, That the Committee at Derby House do treat with the Company of Merchant Adventurers, upon the Loan of such Sums of Money, for the Service of Ireland, as they shall agree upon; and upon what Terms; what Security they do expect: and to report all to the House with convenient Speed.

The King's Escape.

A Letter from the General, from Putney, of 12 Novembris 1647, was read; and was, to signify, That he had appointed Colonel Whalley to attend the House, to give them an Account concerning the King's going from Hampton Court.

Colonel Whalley was called in; and made a particular Relation of all the Circumstances concerning the King's going away from Hampton Court, 11 Novembris last.

He did likewise deliver in a Letter, directed unto him, from Lieutenant General Cromwell, concerning some Rumours and Reports of some Design of Danger to the Person and Life of the King: The which was read.

Ordered, That Colonel Whalley do put in Writing the said Relation, and set his Hand to it: And that he do leave a true Copy of the said Letter from Lieutenant General Cromwell.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Pierpoint carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, Order concerning the raising the Sum of Thirty thousand Pounds for the Service of Ireland: Order for pardoning the Delinquency of Mr. Edward Colfer: Order concerning the making Mr. Pocock, or Mr. Greenhill, Treasurers for issuing out the Nine hundred Pounds at Weavers Hall: Order for Payment of Two hundred Pounds to the Lady Percivall, out of the Revenue: Order for disposing of the Remainder of Ten thousand Pounds formerly assigned for transporting Four Regiments into Ireland, that went not; and is resting in the Hands of the Treasurer at Wars: The Agreement to the Proposition of Mr. Davies, and Partners, for making Six thousand Pounds-worth of Provisions: Order to enable the Committee of the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to dispose the Remainder of the first Eighty thousand Pounds for Ireland.

Papers read.

Some Papers that were taken by the Watch, last Night, upon one Box, and sent to this House, were read: And

It is Ordered, That these Papers be forthwith sent to the General.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Pierpoint brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Ordinances concerning Ireland, carried by him: The Order for taking off the Delinquency of Mr. Edward Colfer: To the Order concerning Mr. Greenhill, and Mr. Pocock: To the Order for Two hundred Pounds to the Lady Percivall.

House to sit.

Resolved, &c. That the House do meet this Afternoon at Two of Clock.

Sir Thomas Dacres was appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, This House has resolved to sit this Afternoon; and to desire their Lordships to do the like, if they shall think fit.

Harbouring the King.

The Question was propounded, That it be, and is hereby declared, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That what Person soever shall harbour and conceal, or know of the Harbouring or Concealing of the King's Person, and shall not reveal it immediately to the Speakers of both Houses, shall be proceeded against as a Traitor to the Commonwealth, forfeit his whole Estate, and die without Mercy:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir Thomas Dacres, Tellers for the Noe: 48.
Sir Walter Erle, With the Noe,
Sir John Evelyn, Tellers for the Yea: 58.
Sir Edw. Baynton, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

The Question being put, That it be, and it is hereby declared, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That what Person soever shall harbour and conceal, or know of the Harbouring or Concealing of the King's Person, and shall not reveal it immediately to the Speakers of both Houses, shall be proceeded against as a Traitor to the Commonwealth, forfeit his whole Estate, and die without Mercy;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Edward Baynton, Tellers for the Yea: 61.
Sir John Evelyn, With the Yea,
Sir Walter Erle, Tellers for the Noe: 50.
Sir Thomas Dacres, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Lords to sit.

Sir Thomas Dacres brings Answer, That the Lords do intend to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

Safety of the King's Person.

Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Bois, Sir Henry Mildmay, Mr. Knightley, Sir Simonds De Ewes, Mr. Erle;

This Committee, or any Two of them, is appointed to prepare a Declaration, to be added to the former Declaration, concerning the Safety of the King's Person, upon the Debate now had in the House: And are to report this Afternoon.

Army.

Resolved, &c. That a Letter be prepared to be sent to the Army, in Answer of the Desires inclosed in a Letter from the General.

Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes and Mr. Allen are to prepare this Letter.

Post meridiem.

Excise Loan.

ORDERED, That the Committee of the Army, Mr. Edward Ashe, Mr. Miles Corbett, Mr. Green, and Mr. Bedingfield, do this Night repair to the Commissioners of Excise; and press the great and urgent Necessity that moves this House, in regard of the general Concernment of the Kingdom, to insist upon the Loan of Twenty thousand Pounds; and to signify, How acceptable a Service this will be to this House, at this Time: And are to give an Account hereof to the House on Monday Morning next.

Arrears of Assessments.

Ordered, That the respective Knights and Burgesses do send Letters to the several Counties and Boroughs, to hasten and expedite the bringing in the Arrears upon the Sixty thousand Pounds Ordinance for the monthly Assessments: And that the Committee of the Army do prepare a Letter to this Purpose.

Army Pay.

Ordered, That, on Monday Morning, the first Business, the House do take into Consideration the present Provideing of a Month's Pay for the Army.

A Letter to the General, signifying the Care of this House to give Satisfaction to the Army, in point of their Arrears, future constant Pay, and, for present, a Month's Pay, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker; and sent immediately to the General.

Letter from the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Heath and Mr. Hakewill;

The Lords think fit, that the Letter from the King to both Houses, communicated to this House from the Lords Yesterday, by Message, may be communicated by the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to the Scotts Commissioners.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur, That it be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, by the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House doth concur, That the said Message be communicated, as is desired.

The King's Declaration.

Ordered, upon the Question, That the Examination, By what Authority the Declaration or Message from the King, of 11 Novembris, was printed, be referred to the Committee of Complaints.