House of Commons Journal Volume 5
15 December 1647

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 15 December 1647', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 383-386. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25251 Date accessed: 19 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Mercurii, 15 Decembris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Delinquents.

MR. John Ashe reports divers Fines and Compositions from Goldsmiths Hall: Whereupon it is resolved, as followeth; viz.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Fourteen hundred and Thirty Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of John Soame, of Barnham in the County of Norfolk, Esquire: His Offence is, That he was in Arms against the Parliament: He rendered before December 1645. His Estate, in Fee, per Annum, Seven hundred Fifteen Pounds Fifteen Shillings and Four-pence: For which his Fine, at a Tenth, is Fourteen hundred and Thirty Pounds.

Delinquents.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto John Soame, of Barnham in the County of Norfolk Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Seven hundred Sixty-six Pounds and Five Shillings, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of George Kingsley of Canterbury in the County of Kent, Gentleman: His Offence is, That he was in Arms against the Parliament; and in Borstall House, at the Time of the Surrender; and hath the Benefit of those Articles: His Estate, for Three Lives, per Annum, Two hundred and Twelve Pounds; for Sixteen Years, per Annum, Eighty-five Pounds; in Reversion, after One Life, per Annum, Seventy Pounds; in Remainder, after Two Lives, per Annum, One hundred and Sixty-six Pounds: For which his Fine, at a Tenth, is Seven hundred Sixty-six Pounds and Five Shillings.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto George Kingsley, of Canterbury in the County of Kent, Gentleman, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed: and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Seven hundred Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of Thomas Beamont, of Whitley in the County of York, Esquire: His Delinquency, That he was in Arms against the Parliament: He rendered in November 1645: His Estate, in Fee, per Annum, Two hundred Eighty-three Pounds Fifteen Shillings and Five-pence; in Reversion, per Annum, One hundred and Eighty Pounds; in personal Estate, One hundred Pounds: Out of which issues, for Rent, per Annum, Four Pounds: for One Life, per Annum, Fifty Pounds Ten Shillings: Which leaves the Fine, at a Tenth, Seven hundred Pounds.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Thomas Beamont, of Whitley in the County of York, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off his Sequestration, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Fine of Four hundred Twenty-and-four Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of Wm. Bromeley, of Bagington in the County of Warwick, Esquire: His Offence is, That he left his own Habitation, and resided in the Enemies Quarters: He rendered in March 1643: His Estate, in Fee, per Annum, One hundred and Seventy Pounds Seven Shillings and Eight-pence; in Reversion, per Annum, One hundred Forty-three Pounds Five Shillings: Out of which issues Thirty Pounds per Annum for ever: Which leaves the Fine, at a Tenth, Four hundred Twenty-and-four Pounds.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto William Bromeley, of Bagington in the County of Warwick, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Four thousand Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of John Coventry, of Barton in the County of Somersett, Esquire: His Offence is, That he was a Member of the House of Commons, and deserted them; and was in Arms against the Parliament: Rendered upon the Articles of Exeter: His Estate, in Fee, per Annum, Eight hundred and Twenty-six Pounds; in Old Rents, per Annum, Three Pounds; in Reversion, per Annum, Seven hundred Pounds; for Thirty-eight years, per Annum, Two hundred and Seventy Pounds; in old Rents, for Thirty Years, per Annum, Sixty-six Pounds; for Sixteen Years, per Annum, Twenty-seven Pounds; in Fee, in Right of his Wife, per Annum, Nine hundred Eighty-eight Pounds; in Goods, Housholdstuff, and Plate, Three hundred Pounds: Out of which issues, for Life, per Annum, One hundred and Twenty Pounds: Which leaves the Fine, at a Tenth, Four thousand Pounds.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto John Coventry, of Barton in the County of Somersett, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Nine thousand Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of the Lord Viscount Cambden: His Offence, That he was in Arms against the Parliament: He rendered in November 1645: His Estate, for his Life, in Possession, per Annum, Fifteen hundred and Sixty Pounds; in Reversion, for Life, Two thousand Seven hundred and Twentyseven Pounds; for Life, upon Contingency, if he shall survive his Sister, Seven hundred and Thirty-seven Pounds; for Three Lives, per Annum, One hundred and Forty Pounds; for One Life, per Annum, Four hundred and Ninety-seven Pounds; in Reversion, after Twenty-eight Years, One thousand and Twenty Pounds: Out of which issues, per Annum, Six hundred and Two Pounds Six Shillings and Eight-pence: Which leaves the Fine, at a Third, Ten thousand Pounds: But if his Lordship settle the Profits of Langham, which are One hundred Pounds per Annum, for Three Lives, for the Increase of Maintenance for a Preaching Minister there; and Fifty Pounds per Annum, for Increase of Maintenance to a Preaching Minister in the Church of Hampsted for ever; then the Fine remains Nine thousand Pounds.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Baptist Lord Viscount Campden, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum of Four hundred Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of John Shalcrosse, of Shalcrosse in the County of Derby, Esquire: His Offence is, That he was in Arms against the Parliament: He rendered in November 1645: His Estate, in Fee, per Annum, One hundred and Ninety Pounds; for Ten Years, per Annum, Ten Pounds; in Reversion, per Annum, Fifty Pounds: Out of which issue, per Annum, Thirty Pounds for One Life: Which leaves the Fine, at a Tenth, Four hundred Pounds.

An Ordinance for granting a Pardon to John Shalcroft, of Shalcrosse in the County of Derby, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Nathaniell Bacon and Mr. Francis Bacon, Members of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country for a Fortnight.

Recusants Conformity.

An Ordinance concerning the Certificates of Popish Recusants Conformity, was this Day read the First time.

Report to be made.

Ordered, That the Report of the Business concerning Colonel King, and the Lincolnshire Committee, be made on Monday next, the First Business, after the Reports at Goldsmiths Hall: And that no other Business do then intervene.

Committee of Accompts.

Mr. John Stephens reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for defraying the Salaries of the Officers of the Committee and Sub Committees for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom: The which were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And the Ordinance, so amended, upon the Question, passed; and is ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sequestered Estates.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, That all Committees of Sequestration, in the several Counties of England and Wales, do take care, that all sequestered Lands, in the said several Counties, be improved to the utmost Values: And that they put in Execution the former Orders made by Both or Either of the Houses of Parliament, concerning the same: And that they speedily deliver in an Account of all Sequestered Lands and Goods within the said Counties; and what have been made thereof, and how the same have been disposed, according to the Ordinances made for Accompts, unto the several Sub-Committees of Accompts, in the said several Counties, before the First Day of March next ensuing; or otherwise deliver in all their Accompts aforesaid unto the Committee for taking the Accompts of the whole Kingdom, before the Five-and-twentieth Day of March next ensuing.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Navy Committee.

An Ordinance for adding divers Lords of the House of Peers to the Committee of the Navy and Customs was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Message to Lords.

Sir Walter Erle is appointed to carry it to the Lords; and to desire the Lords to expedite the Ordinance concerning Tonage and Poundage; and to press the Necessity of expediting the said Bill.

Customs Advances.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Navy do, this Afternoon, send for the Commissioners of the Customs; and declare unto them, What the House has done and resolved in relation to them, and their Security for Monies advanced, and to be advanced; and to desire them to pay in the Monies, according to their former Engagement, for paying off the Ships and Mariners that are now come in: And that the Committee do take care, that the said Ships and Mariners may be speedily paid off, to prevent the great Inconveniences that otherwise will follow.

Communications with Scotts Commissioners.

Mr. Wm. Pierrepoint reports the Proceedings of the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, in communicating to the Scotts Commissioners the Instructions for the Commissioners that are to go to the King, to the Isle of Wight; and likewise a Paper delivered in by the Scotts Commissioners, of 14 Decembris 1647, in Answer thereunto; and the Reply of the Committee of the Houses; and the Reply of the Scotts Commissioners.

The Scotts Commissioners, in one Paper, desire to see those Bills to which his Majesty's Assent is desired, before any Treaty upon the rest of the Propositions; that they may consider, and give their Advice, concerning the Matter of those Bills. In the Second Paper, they desire the Committee to report the said Paper to the Houses; and expect their Answer.

Message to Lords.

Mr. John Stephens carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for improving the Values of sequestered Lands: The Ordinance for Fifty thousand Pounds to be raised for the Service of Ireland: Order for securing and reimbursing to Mrs. Philippa Coryton the Sum of Fourteen hundred and Sixty Pounds, seized from her for the Service of the Parliament.

Answer to Scotts Commissioners.

Mr. Wm. Pierrepoint, Mr. Selden, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Henry Vane junior, Mr. Sam. Browne, Mr. Nath. Fienis, Mr. Marten, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Challoner, Mr. Morley, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Sir Peter Wentworth;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are to prepare an Answer to the Scotts Commissioners Papers, now reported, upon the whole Debate now had in the House thereupon: And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Selden: And they are presently to meet where they shall think fit; and to report their Answer this Afternoon, the first Business.

Comm rs to the King.

Resolved, &c. That Monday next be appointed for the Commissioners of both Houses to go to the King, to the Isle of Wight, with the Bills and Propositions, according to the Instructions agreed upon by both Houses.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

House to meet P.M.

Resolved, &c. That the House do meet this Afternoon at Two of Clock.

Letter read.

A Letter from the Commissioners employed to the Army, from Windsore, of 14 Decembris 1647, was this Day read.

Answers from Lords.

Sir Walter Erle brings Answer, That the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own, to the Ordinance for Tonage and Poundage; and to the Ordinance for adding a Committee of Lords to the Committee of the Navy.

Mr. John Stephens brings Answer, That the Lords will send Answer to the Particulars of his Message, by Messengers of their own.

Excise, &c.

A Letter from the Sub-Commissioners of Excise of Bristoll, of 11 Decembris 1647, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to peruse and consider of this Letter; and to report their Opinions of some sitting Course to give speedy Remedy to the Inconveniencies complained of in the Letter, touching the Excise and Customs.

Post meridiem.

Proceedings against Brent.

ORDERED, That Mr. Wm. Brent, now Prisoner in the Gatehouse, be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Prison of Newgate, for adhering unto, abetting, and countenancing, the Rebellion in Ireland.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Justice Rolle, to examine Mr. Wm. Brent, now committed Prisoner to Newgate, for adhering unto, abetting, and countenancing the Rebellion in Ireland: And that the said Mr. Justice Rolle do give Order for the Tryal of the said Mr. Wm. Brent, in the Court of the King's Bench: And that Mr. Beck do attend Justice Rolle and pursue his Directions in effectual Prosecution of the Tryal against the said Mr. Wm. Brent.

Excise in Wales.

Upon Mr. Aldworthe's Report from the Committee of the Navy;

It is Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms attending the House of Commons, or his Deputy, be sent down, for the making Stay of the Ship John, laden with Wines, and Two Vessels, laden with Salt, in the Port of Pennarth and Cardiff; or any other Ships laden with Commodities, that ought to pay Customs and Excise in the said Port, or any other Ports or Creeks in the Dominion of Wales, or upon the River of Seaverne, until such time as Satisfaction be given unto the respective Officers of the Customs and Excise.

It is further Ordered, That a Letter of Assistance be written, and signed by the Speakers of both Houses, to be drawn by the Committee of Excise, to require all Mayors of Towns, Justices of Peace, or other Magistrates or Officers whatsoever, to be aiding and assisting to the said Serjeant, or his Deputy, in the Execution of this Service: And that another Letter be sent from the Speakers of both Houses unto Sir Thomas Fairefax, to appoint some Force of Horse to be sent into those Parts with his Excellency's Command, That they be aiding and assisting unto the Commissioners of Excise, and their Deputies, for the settling of the Excise in the several Counties of South Wales, and other Parts, as Bridgewater, &c. adjoining on the English Side.

Answer to Scotts Commissioners.

Mr. Selden reports the Answer to be returned to the Scotts Papers this Day reported: The which was read; and re-committed.

Tower Hamlets Militia.

Mr. Wheeler reports the Alterations to the Ordinance concerning the Militia of the Hamlets of the Tower of London: The which were read the First and Second time.

And the Question being put, For assenting unto the said Amendments;

The House was divided.

Sir Henry Mildmay, Tellers for the Yeas: 33.
Mr. Wheeler, With the Yea,
Mr. Gewen, Tellers for the Noes: 55.
Mr. Hobby, With the Noe,

Resolved, &c. That this Ordnance, and Amendments, be re-committed.

Answer to Scotts Commissioners.

Upon Mr. Seden's Report from the Committee; It is Resolved, &c. That this shall be the Answer to the Scotts Commissioners Papers this Day reported; viz. That the Privilege, Right, and Custom of the Kingdom and Parliament of England is, That Bills passed both Houses, to be presented to the King for his Royal Assent, are not to be communicated to any other whatsoever, either in relation to Matter or Form, before such Assent had: And that there is nothing contained in any Article of Treaty between the Two Kingdoms to the contrary: That the Houses have resolved to send their Commissioners to the King, on Monday next, with the Bills and Propositions in the Instructions mentioned, according to the same Instructions communicated unto you: And the Houses desire, that such Propositions as you shall judge fit and necessary for the Kingdom of Scotland, may be prepared to be sent, within the Time aforesaid.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Removing Papists, &c.

Mr. Miles Corbett, Sir Henry Mildmay, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Wheeler, are appointed to prepare and bring in, Tomorrow Morning, the like Ordinance as formerly passed both Houses; with the like Limitations and Provisoes, for putting out of the late Lines of Communication all Papists, and all Malignants, that have been in Arms against the Parliament.