House of Commons Journal Volume 5
8 August 1648

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 8 August 1648', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 663-665. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25441 Date accessed: 29 July 2014.


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Die Martis, 8 Augusti, 1648.

Prayers.

Message to Lords.

COLONEL Moore carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, an Order for Payment of Two thousand Nine hundred Pounds to Mr.Darnall, in lieu of his Sufferings, and Loss of his Office in the late Court of Wards: An Ordinance for the further and better regulating the Sequestrations of Papists and Delinquents Estates.

Answer.

Colonel Moore brings Answer, That the Lords agree to Mr. Darnall's Order: To the Ordinance for regulating the Sequestrations of Papists and Delinquents Estates, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Militia.

Sir Robert Harley reports from the Grand Committee of the whole House, touching the Ordinance for the Militia of the whole Kingdom, That they have adjourned the House until To-morrow Morning, Eight of Clock.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Adjourning of the Grand Committee for the Militia of the whole Kingdom, till To-morrow Morning, Eight of Clock: And that Mr. Speaker do forbear to take the Chair.

Person to be sent to Scottland.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Halliburton be enjoined to go away within Twenty-four Hours; or else, that Care be taken that he be sent away into Scottland.

Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords, touching Mr. Halliburton's being sent back into Scottland: And that the Letters and Papers that he brought from Scottland, And his Letters of Credence, and other private Letters and Papers, brought by Mr. Halliburton, without Warrant, be communicated to the Lords.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords to desire this Conference.

Maj. Rolfe.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords, touching Major Rolse.

Martial Law in Navy.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Pye do put the Lords in mind of the Lord Admiral's Ordinance for Martial Law.

Rates.

Ordered, That Mr. Dodderidge make his Report, touching the Rates, on Saturday Morning next.

Preacher appointed.

Ordered, That Mr. Green be desired to preach, in Mr. Ashe his place, on Thursday next, being the Day of Publick Humiliation.

Mr. Middleton.

Ordered, That Mr. Elsynge be sent to know where the Letter and Examinations, touching Mr. Middleton, a Member of this House, are laid.

London Petitions.

The House being informed, that the Sheriffs and Aldermen of London were at the Door;

They were called in: And Sheriff Byde, in the Name of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London, presented Two Petitions to the House.

The Petitioners being withdrawn, both the said Petitions were read; and were both severally intituled, "The humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled."-

Answer to Lords.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer from the Lords, That the Lords agree to a present Conference touching Mr. Halliburton, and touching Major Rolfe: and, to the Ordinance for Chesheire, they also agree: As to the Ordinance touching the Lord Admiral's Execution of Martial Law at Sea, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.-

London Petitions.

Mr. Knightley, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Lechmore, Mr. Strickland, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Fines, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Crewe;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are to prepare an Answer to the City Petition, upon the Debate now had thereupon.

Ordered, That the Petition touching the Weavers be referred to the former Committee appointed for the Weavers: And that all the Lawyers of the House be added to that Committee: And the said Committee are to meet at Two of Clock, this Afternoon, in the Queen's Court.

The Petitioners being again called in, Mr. Speaker, by Command of the House, gave them this Answer;

Mr. Sheriff,

When the House received your Petition, they were in Debate of Matters of great Concernment; and are also engaged in a Conference with the Lords; Yet they have taken your Petitions into Consideration; which contain many Things of very high Concernment both to the King, Parliament, City, and Kingdom: They will give you an Answer thereunto, To-morrow in the Afternoon: And the House desires the Lord Mayor to call a Common Council to meet with a Committee of this House, to that Purpose. The House formerly referred both the former Petitions of the Weavers to a Committee: To which they added all the Lawyers of the House, before they received your Petition; with Order to do them Justice with Expedition: They have referred this Petition likewise to that Committee: Who are to sit this Afternoon, if other urgent Occasions prevent not.

Letters found on Halliburton.

Mr. Scott reports Letters decyphered, which were sent by Mr. Halliburton out of Scottland.

Ordered, That the said Letters be printed: And Mr. Scott is to take care of it.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords desire, That, at this Conference, they may communicate their Votes, touching Major General Skippon.-

Mr. Swynfen and Mr. Knightley to manage the Conference.-

They have sent you the Original of the Prince's Letter and Declaration; which the Lords desire may be sent back to them, after comparing them with the Copies: An Ordinance to translate Baron Atkins from the Exchequer to the Common Pleas: A Vote from Mr. Hooke, to . . . . the Receiver's Place for the First-fruits. The Lords command us to put you in mind of Sir Fredericke Thyn's Business, formerly sent down. The Lords have sent down an Ordinance for the Militia of London and Westminster: Wherein they desire the Concurrence of this House. The Lords command us to put you in mind of Mr. John Jessop's Petition. The Lords have sent down an Order for Rooms, in Worcester House, to be assigned to * * *.

Answer.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered of their Lordships Message: And, as to the communicating the Votes concerning MajorGeneral Skippon, the House doth agree: To the rest they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Reduced Officers, &c.

The House being informed that the reduced Officers were at Door;

They were called in; and presented their Petition.

Which (after the Petitioners were withdrawn) was read; and was intituled, "The humble Petition of the reduced Officers and Soldiers, that hath faithfully served you, and have hereunto subscribed."

Resolved, &c. That the Estates, Fines, and Compositions of all such Delinquents, that the Petitioners shall discover, that are not yet discovered, shall go to such of the Petitioners as shall make such Discoveries, towards the Payment of their Arrears, truly stated.

Resolved, &c. That the Fifth, and Twentieth Part, of such Delinquents as the Petitioners shall discover not formerly discovered, shall go towards Payment of the Arrears, truly stated, of such of the Petitioners as shall make such Discovery.

Sir Samuell Luke, Sir Wm. Brereton, Mr. Knightley, Sir Robert Pye, Sir John Potts, Sir Peter Temple, Mr. Challoner, Mr. Knightley, Colonel Ven, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir John Palgrave, Major General Massey, Colonel Barker, Sir John Curson, Sir John Corbett, Mr. Leachmore;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are to confer with the Petitioners, the reduced Officers, this Afternoon, touching their Arrears: With Power to examine how much of their Arrears hath been paid; and when, where, and to whom; and to consider of some Way how to give the Petitioners further Satisfaction touching their Arrears; and, in particular, to consider of some Way for Satisfaction of the Arrears of Colonel Aldridge; and to report the same to the House: With Power to send for Persons, Witnesses, Papers, Records: And are to sit this Afternoon, at Four of Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Ordered, That the Petition of the Dutch Officers be referred to the same Committee; to state the Business, and present it to the House.

The Petitioners were again called in: And Mr. Speaker, by Command of this House, gave them this Answer.

Gentlemen,

The House has considered of your Petitions: And as your Judgments have followed theirs heretofore, so you will make that your Rule still. They have done what possibly they could to satisfy the Petitioners Arrears; and for a great Part thereof have given them the same Security that the Lord Fairefax his Army had, their Arrears secured: And they have further ordered, That all such Delinquents Estates, Fines, and Compositions, as the Petitioners shall discover, that are not discovered, shall go to such of the Petitioners as shall make such Discoveries, towards Payment of their whole Arrears: And have further ordered, That the Fifth, and Twentieth Part of such Delinquents as the Petitioners shall discover, not formerly discovered, shall also go towards Payment of the Arrears of the Petitioners: And the House have also appointed a Committee to confer with some of you, of a Way to give you further Satisfaction.

Army Arrears.

The humble Petition of the Non-commission Officers and Soldiers belonging to Colonel Sir Robert Pye, whose Names are subscribed, was this Day read.

Ordered, That whereas, by former Order, of 16 Julii 1647, it was referred to the Members of this House that are of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House, and the Committee of the Army, or any Five of them, to take care that the Petitioners may have all their Arrears paid to them, deducting one Moiety for Free Quarter: It is Ordered, That, in regard the aforesaid Committees seldom meet, and the Petitioners have long attended, that the said Petition be referred to the Committee of the Army; to take care to pay the Petitioners their Arrears according to the said former Order.

Worcester Forces.

An Ordinance for suppressing of Tumults and Insurrections in the County of Worcester, and for raising Forces, and paying them, to that Purpose, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde to carry it to the Lords.

Irish Adventurers.

Colonel Thompson reports from the Committee of the Navy, the State of the Business between Captain Dicke and Thomas Cunningham, and others, in the Name of the Committee of Adventurers for the additional Forces for Ireland.

Ordered, That these Words; viz. "notwithstanding any former Order or Ordinances;" be added to the Order of both Houses, of the Fourteenth of June 1648, for Payment of the Sum of Six hundred Two Pounds to the Lord Forbes; with this, That this House doth declare, That if the said Six hundred Two Pounds do appear to be due to Captain Dicke, and not the Adventurers; then the said Sum of Six hundred Two Pounds shall be repaid and satisfied to the said Captain Dicke, by the Parliament.

Sir Antho. Irby, Mr. Knightley, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir John Clotworthy, Mr. Charles Rich, Colonel Thompson, Sir John Palgrave, Mr. Crewe, Colonel Moore, Mr. Greene, Lord Carre;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are to consider whether Captain Dicke and Mr. Cunningham are to have the Benefit for Subscription for Land in Ireland; and to state the whole Business; and report the same to the House forthwith: The said Committee are to sit in the Duchy Chamber, To-morrow at Three of Clock in the Afternoon, and so de die in diem: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.