Die Lunæ, 11 Septembris, 1648.
Prayers.
Delinquents.
SIR Anthony Irby reports from the Committee at
Goldsmiths Hall, the Fines and Compositions of divers Delinquents, videlicet, of * * * *.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Eight hundred and Fifty Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of David Walter, of Godstow in the County of
Oxford, Esquire: His Offence, that he was in Arms against
the Parliament: He rendered upon the Articles of Oxford:
His Estate in Fee, in Possession per Annum Four hundred
Twenty-seven Pounds Thirteen Shillings and Eleven-pence,
for One Life per Annum, Ten Pounds; out of which issues
for Quit Rents per Annum, Ten Pounds Three Shillings
and Five-pence: Which being allowed, leaves the Fine,
at a Tenth, Eight hundred Fifty Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto David Walter, of Godstow in the County of Oxford, Esquire, for his
Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his
Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Three hundred and Thirty Pounds, for a Fine, for the
Delinquency of Wm. Godolphin, of Sargar in the County
of Cornwall, Esquire: His Offence, that he was in Arms
against the Parliament: He rendered upon the Articles of
Silly: His Estate in Fee . . . Possession, per Annum, One
hundred Fifty Pounds; for Fifty Years, per Annum, Sixty
Pounds; in personal Estate, Three hundred Pounds: For
which his Fine, at a Tenth, is Three hundred Thirty
Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Wm. Godolphin, of Spargar in the County of Cornwall, Esquire, for
his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration
of his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for
their Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Five hundred and Eleven Pounds, for a Fine, for the
Delinquency of John Hoskins, of Langdon in the County
of Dorsett Esquire: His Offence, that he adhered to, and
assisted the Forces raised against the Parliament: He rendered in November 1645: His Estate in Fee per Annum
One hundred Sixty-one Pounds; in old Rents per Annum
Fourteen Pounds Fifteen Shillings; for one Year One hundred Three Pounds; for Three Lives per Annum Thirty
Pounds; for Twenty Years per Annum Thirty-six Pounds
Fourteen Shillings and Two-pence: For which his Fine,
at a Tenth, is Five hundred Eleven Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto John Hoskins,
of Langdon in the County of Dorsett, Esquire, for his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his
Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Four hundred and Fifteen Pounds, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of William Booth, of Killingholme in the County
of Lincoln, Esquire: His Offence, That he was in Arms
against the Parliament: He rendered upon the Articles of
Newark: His Estate in Fee, in Possession, per Annum, One
hundred Pounds; in Reversion per Annum Eighty Pounds;
out of which issues for ever, per Annum, One Pound Seven Shillings and Nine-pence: Which leaves the Fine,
at a Sixth, Four hundred Fifteen Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Wm. Booth,
of Killingholme, in the County of Lincoln, Esquire, for
his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of
his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Three hundred and Fifty Pounds, for a Fine, for the
Delinquency of Tobias Lawe, of Leventhorpe in the County
of York, Gentleman: His Offence, that he deserted his
Dwelling, and lived in the Enemies Quarters: He rendered
before December 1645: His Estate in Fee, in Possession,
per Annum One hundred Seventy-seven Pounds; personal
Estate, Fifty-one Pounds One Shilling and Two-pence;
out of which . . . . . for Seven Years yet to come, per
Annum, Four Pounds: Which leaves the Fine, at a Tenth,
Three hundred Fifty Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Tobias Lawe,
of Leventhorpe in the County of York, Gentleman, for his
Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of his
Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
According to an Order of this Honourable House, of
the Twenty-seventh of October 1646 (whereby the Ordinance concerning Daniel Thelwall, of Woodford in the
County of Essex, Esquire, is re-committed to this Committee, who are thereby ordered to consider of the Matter of Fact, and of the Time of his coming in, and taking
the Covenant; and likewise to consider of the Declaration of both Kingdoms; and report the whole Matter
to this House), we humbly present, That in January 1642,
the said Daniel Thelwall went into Flintshire, to his Brother-in-Law Evan Edwards, then being very sick, to advise him in the settling of his Estate, long before any
Garisons were kept, in those Parts, for the King:
That 6 Maii 1643, the Compounder's Estate was
sequestred, upon a supposed Presentment of the Constables, Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of Woodford, that he had not paid his Five-and-twentieth Part,
nor other Parliament Taxes; and that he was gone to
the King: That the time of his coming in to the Parliament's Quarters was the Beginning of November 1644;
and of his taking the Covenant the Sixth of June 1645:
He did petition the Lords and Commons for Discharge of
his Sequestration; in which Cause no Witnesses were ever
examined upon Oath; but he was ordered to stand sequestred, upon the Certificate, to the Committee of Essex, of the Eleventh of September 1645, grounded upon
the aforesaid supposed Presentment; which the said Constables, and other Officers, do, under their own Hands,
disavow, and deny they ever made any such Presentment:
And thereupon the Compounder, seeing the Inconveniency of prosecuting any further Appeal, did submit to this
Committee to compound. That, out of these Considerations, this Committee did, in their former Report, propose his Fine to this House, at a Tenth, Five hundred
and Forty Pounds, and, at a Third, Fifteen hundred
Pounds; leaving it to the Determination of this House, as
then and yet thinking a Tenth Part to be a very reasonable Sum, in respect of the Smallness of his Delinquency,
and upon Consideration had of the whole Matter, according to the Directions of the said Order, of 27 Octobris
1646. All which we again humbly certify to the Judgment of this House.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon to Daniel Thelwell, of Woodford in the County of Essex, Esquire, for
his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of
his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of Three hundred Pounds for a Fine, for the Delinquency
of Edward Yard, of Churston in the County of Devon,
Esquire: His Offence, that he was in Arms against the
Parliament: He rendered upon the Articles of Exeter:
His Estate in Fee Tail, per Annum, One hundred Pounds;
in old Rents, per Annum, Twenty-nine Pounds; Personal
Estate, One hundred Seventy-six Pounds; and he owes
Three-hundred Pounds; there is issuing out of his Estate
Sixty-nine Pounds per Annum, for one Life: Which leaves
the Fine, at a Tenth, Three hundred Pounds.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Edward
Yard, of Churston in the County of Devon, Esquire, for
his Delinquency, and for taking off the Sequestration of
his Estate, was this Day read; and, upon the Question,
passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their
Concurrence.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Sum
of One Thousand Three hundred Thirty-two Pounds and
Ten Shillings, for a Fine, for the Delinquency of Sir Walter Wrottesley of Wrottesley, in the County of Stafford,
Knight: His Offence, that, when Prince Rupert and
Prince Maurice were in that Part of the Kingdom, he
furnished a Horse upon their Command: That he is
seized of an Estate, in Fee to him, and his Heirs, in
Possession, of Five hundred Sixty-six Pounds; of old Rents
of Forty Pounds per Annum; more, in Fee, being the
Rectory of Womborne, Sixty-two Pounds per Annum; and
of Tythes in Coldshall, Thirty-five Pounds per Annum; out
of which is issuing * * * leaves the Fine to be Fifteen
hundred Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings: If he settle
Fifteen Pounds per Annum for ever, out of his own
Tythes, on the Vicar of Tedenhall, the Committee think
sit, (if the House so please) to allow him Twelve Years
Purchase for it, which is One hundred Eighty Pounds:
Then the Fine remains to be Thirteen hundred Thirtytwo Pounds Ten Shillings.
Ordered, That Mr. Stephens be desired to report, That,
by small Certificates, and upon Sir Walter Wrottesley's
own Oath, it appear, that he hath disbursed for the Parliament, Eight hundred Thirty Pounds; that he hath lost
by the Enemy Two thousand Pounds; that his chief Seat
is now a Garison for the Parliament (which Garison he
maintained Five Weeks, at his own Charge, with a Troop
of Horse, and Company of Foot), that his Estate lies
surrounded with the Enemy's Garisons; and that he
would never yield to make his House a Garison for the
King, though often solicited thereunto.
An Ordinance for granting a Pardon unto Sir Walter
Wrottesley, of Wrottesley in the County of Stafford,
Knight and Baronet, for his Delinquency, and for taking
off the Sequestration of his Estate, was this Day read;
and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to
the Lords, for their Concurrence.
Impressing Waggons, &c.
Ordered, That Mr. Francis Hodges be, and is hereby,
authorized and required to impress Waggons, Carts, and
Cars, for the Committee appointed to go to his Majesty;
he agreeing with the Parties for the same: And it is further Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do give Warrant to that
Purpose.
Tolkyn's Fine.
Ordered, That it be re-committed to the Committee at
Goldsmiths Hall, to state the Business concerning the
State and Fine of John Tolkyn, of Bumstead in the County
of Essex, Esquire.
Preacher appointed.
Ordered, That Mr. Marshall be desired to preach Tomorrow at St. Margaret's, Westminster.
Sir Robert Pye to acquaint him with it.
Navy.
A Letter from Thomas Smith and Robert Tweedy Commissioners of the Navy, to Sir Henry Vane junior, of the
Eighth of September 1648, was this Day read.
Ordered, That the said Letter be referred to the Committee of the Navy, for the Use of the Navy: Who are
to confer with the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, and the
Treasurers, How the Sum of Forty thousand Pounds,
charged upon those Receipts, may presently be raised or
advanced for paying Wages to this Summer's Fleet, and
for victualing the Ships, and to furnish the Magazine:
And they are to use their utmost Care and Diligence
therein.
Ordered, That the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall be
injoined to meet this Afternoon, and to confer with the
Committee of the Navy, about raising the Sum of Forty
thousand Pounds for victualing the Ships, paying Wages
to the Fleet, and to furnish the Magazine: And that the
said Committee do choose out the most considerable Compositions, and of greatest Value; and report them to the
House, in the First Place: And that the said Reports
from Goldsmiths Hall be made every Morning, until Ten
of Clock.
Passes to France.
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do give a Pass unto Monsieur De Praveling, Monsieur De Belifon, Monsieur De
St. Lucke, and Mr. Daubetery, to pass into France.
Ordered, That Monsieur De Belifon have a Pass for
transporting Six Horses, Custom and Impost free: And
that Mr. Speaker grant a Pass, accordingly.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned by the same Messengers, That the House
has considered of your Message; and will send Answer,
by Messengers of their own, to the Message sent from
the Lords on Saturday last.
Ordered, That Mr. Wheler and Mr. Onslow be added
to the Committee appointed to give Reasons to the Lords,
Why this House cannot agree with the Lords, to grant
a Blank for Safe Conducts for Five Persons, with their
Servants, as is desired by the King's Letter.
Totershall Castle.
Mr. Knightly reports a Conference with the Lords,
touching Totershall Castle in the County of Lincolne; and
touching removing Obstructions, hindering the speedy
dispatching the Lords Messengers sent to this House.
The Lords having sent down an Order of their House,
made the Third of July last, requiring the Delivery of
Tattershall Castle to the Earl of Lincolne, or such as his
Lordship should assign; the then pretended Governor,
Captain Chuton alias Fynes, being served with the said
Order, refused to yield Obedience thereunto; alleging,
he had an Order of the House of Commons, a Copy
whereof is hereunto annexed, bearing Date the First of
August, commanding his . . . delivering the same until
their Pleasure was further known; the Lords, being desirous to continue a good Understanding between the Two
Houses, and to prevent all Clashing of Orders, have desired this Conference, in Confidence, that the House of
Commons will recall their Order; which, they believe,
could not have been obtained, if they had been duly informed, that the said Castle is the Possession of the Earl
of Lincolne, a Peer of this House, who hath constantly
and faithfully adhered to the Parliament: And therefore
his House ought not to be disposed of by any, without
Consent of the House of Lords;
1. Because, by the Laws of this Land, as well the
Possessions as Persons of Peers are privileged from all
Disturbance whatsoever.
2. The said Earl hath formerly suffered very great
Damage by a Garison there, by Free Quarter, pulling
down his Houses, and by spoiling his Warren, never
having received any Consideration for the same.
3. The Order of the House of Commons, bearing
Date so long after, could not be any sufficient Warrant
for the fore-mentioned Governor to disobey their Lordships Order, in not delivering it up to the said Earl of
Lincolne, or his Assignees.
4. That there is now no Need of putting the Country
to so . . necessary a Charge, in maintaining a Garison
there.
5. The Lord Clynton, Son to the said Earl, being a
Member of the House of Commons, and now at Nottingham with his Wife, hath no other House furnished to
carry her unto.
And for these Reasons the Lords command me to let
you know, it is their Lordships Desire, the House of
Commons will recall their Order.
The Lords have commanded me to acquaint the House
of Commons, That the Lords are informed, That, upon
Saturday last, the Messengers of the House of Lords,
delivered a Message to the House of Commons, desireing a Conference with them; and stayed Five Hours,
in Expectation of an Answer; but had none returned:
And that divers Times the Lords Messengers have
waited, at the Door of the House of Commons, Three
or Four Days together, to deliver a Message. These
Things being so prejudicial to the expediting the Affairs,
of the Kingdom between the Two Houses, and so unusual in former Time; and being an Occasion of multiplying very many Businesses at one Message; the Lords
do desire them to take the same into Consideration; and
think of some Course for the Preventing of like Obstructions for the future, that so Answers may be returned
more seasonably.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Derby House, to confer with the Earl of Lincolne, and the Gentlemen of this House that serve for the County of Lincolne, touching Tettershall Castle; and to take Care for
the Safety of the Country, and of the said Castle of Tattershall.
Ordered, That, when Messengers are sent from the
Lords to this House, as soon as the Business in Agitation,
when the Messengers come, be ended, then the said Messengers from the Lords be called in.
Granting a Pass.
The Question being propounded, That Leave be given
to take up the Debate again, touching sending a blank
Pass into Scotland, as is desired by the King's Letter of
the Eight of September 1648;
The House was divided.
The Yeas go forth.
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Mr. Copley, |
Tellers for the Yeas: |
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Colonel Harvey, |
Tellers for the Noes, |
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So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.
Branford Men.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Complaints, to examine the Men that came from Branford.
Granting Passes.
Ordered, That this House doth repeal the Two Orders,
made on the Ninth of this Month, for a Pass for Mr.
Parsons to go into Scotland; and for a Conference with
the Lords, to shew the Reasons, Why they cannot agree
with the Lords, in granting a blank Safe Conduct, as is
desired by the King's Letter.
Colonel Birch, Sir Henry Vane senior, Mr. Holles, Sir
Wm. Lewes, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Scott, Sir Henry Vane junior,
SirHarbottle Grimston, Mr. Annesly, Mr. John Goodwyn;
This Committee, or any Five of them, are to prepare
an Answer to be sent to the King, Why they could not
assent to grant a blank Safe Conduct, as is desired in the
King's Letter.
Reformado Officers.
Ordered, That on Wednesday Morning the Report for
the Reformado Officers be made.
Adjournment.
Ordered, That when the House riseth, the House do
adjourn itself until Eight of Clock on Wednesday Morning next.
Ship Sampson.
Ordered, That on Wednesday Morning next, Sir Robert Harley do make his Report touching Walter Sandy,
Mary Hooke Widow, Thomas Hook, Elizabeth Clement,
and Anne Clement, of Bristoll, concerning the Ship Sampson of Bristoll.
Army.
Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, the Reports
for the Committee of the Army be taken into Consideration, the first Business.
Petition from London, &c.
The House being informed, That divers Inhabitants of
London, Westminster, the Borough of Southwarke, were
at the Door;
They were called . . ; and then presented a Petition to
the House.
Which (after the Petitioners were withdrawn) was read;
and was intituled, "The humble Petition of Thousands
well-affected Persons, inhabiting the City of London,
Westminster, the Borough of Southwarke, Hamlets and
Places adjacent."
Convoys.
The House being informed, That divers Masters and
Commanders of Ships were at the Door;
They were called in; and then presented a Petition to
this House.
Which (after the Petitioners were withdrawn) was read;
and was intituled "The humble Petition and Representation of divers well-affected English Masters and Commanders of Ships."
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Complaints: And that they sit this Afternoon, to examine the
Matters of Mact; and to present it to the House.
Ordered, That the Lord Admiral be desired to take
care for Convoys for the Merchants Ships, from the
Mouth of the River of Thames to the Netherlands, and
to Holland: And that he take the best Course he can
for the Advance and Encouragement of Trade.