House of Commons Journal Volume 6
10 August 1649

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 6: 10 August 1649', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 6: 1648-1651 (1802), pp. 276-278. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25733 Date accessed: 23 October 2014.


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Die Veneris, 10 Augusti, 1649.

Prayers.

Irish Affairs.

ORDERED, That the Letters from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland be taken into Consideration on Wednesday next.

Dean and Chapters Lands.

Ordered, That Colonel Willoughbie's Business, touching Doubling on Dean and Chapters Lands, be taken into Consideration on Tuesday next.

Sir A. Loftus.

Ordered, That Sir John Danvers do make the Report concerning Sir Adam Loftus, on Tuesday next.

Cinque Ports.

Ordered, That the Lord Grey do report the Business touching the Admiralty, in the Cinque Ports, on Wednesday next.

Serjeant at Arms Servants.

Ordered, That the Petition of the Officers and Servants to the Serjeant at Arms attending this House be read on Thursday next.

North Wales Delinquents.

Colonel Jones reports Amendments to the Act for Compositions of Delinquents in North Wales: Which were this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

A Proviso was tendered to this Act, That the said Act extend not to discharge John Williams, Doctor in Divinity, late Archbishop of York, of his Delinquency in the last Insurrection in the Isle of Anglesey: Which was this Day read; and laid aside.

The said Act so amended being put to the Question, passed; and ordered to be forthwith printed and published.

Mitton's Accompts.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Worcester House, to state Major General Mitton's Accompts; and report, the same to the House; that, if it shall appear any thing remaineth due to the said Major General Mitton, upon his Accompts, the House may give such Directions for Payment of the same, out of the Monies raised by the Compositions of the Delinquents in North Wales, as the House shall think fit.

Irish Affairs.

Mr. Scott reports from the Council of State, a Letter and Paper concerning a Cessation made by Colonel Munck, with General Owen Rowe Mac Art Oneale; sent to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland by Colonel Munck; and were, by the Lord Lieutenant, brought and delivered to the Council; and by them taken into Consideration: And that the whole Business was then disapproved by the Council: And the Council hath declared unto Colonel Munck, That they neither did, nor do, approve of what he hath done therein; and ordered, That both the aforesaid Letter and Papers, and also the Reasons now exhibited to the Council, by Colonel Munck, for his making the said Cessation, should be reported to the House.

Which were all this Day read.

The House being informed, That Colonel Munck was at the Door;

He was called in: And, being come to the Bar, Mr. Speaker, by command of the House, declared to him, That the House had received a Report from the Council of State, touching an Agreement for a Cessation between him and Owen Rowe: And, whereas, in his Letter, he doth mention, That he had done it with Advice with some others there; Mr. Speaker demanded of him, What Persons he intended thereby.

To which Colonel Munck answered, That he did it upon his own Score, without the Advice of any other Person: Only having formerly had Discourse with Colonel Jones, Colonel Jones told him, That if he the said Colonel Muncke could keep off Owen Rowe and Ormond from joining, it would be a good Service.

Being demanded, by Mr. Speaker, Whether he had any Advice or Direction from the Parliament, or Council of State, or Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, or any other Person here, to do the same;

He did expresly deny, That he had any Advice or Direction therein from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, or from the Council of State, or from the Parliament, or any Member of either; but he did it only on his own Score, conceiving it was for the Preservation of the English Interest there; and that they had some Fruits thereof accordingly.

Being withdrawn, and afterwards called in again; the Questions demanded him by Mr. Speaker, and his Answers thereunto, were read unto him: And the said Colonel Monck did acknowledge, That the same are his Answers to the said Questions.

The Question being put, That this House doth approve of the Proceedings of Colonel Monck, in the Cessation with Owen Rowe O Neile;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth utterly disapprove of the Proceedings of Colonel Monck, in the Treaty and Cessation made between him and Owen Roe O Neile: And that the innocent Blood which hath been shed in Ireland, is so fresh in the Memory of this House, that this House doth detest and abhor the Thoughts of any Closing with any Party of Popish Rebels there, who have had their hands in shedding that Blood.

The Question being propounded, That these Words be added to the former Vote, "Nevertheless, this House being satisfied that what the said Colonel Monck did therein, was, in his Apprehension, necessary for the Preservation of the Parliament of England's Interest there, the House is content the further Consideration thereof, as to him, be laid aside; and shall not, at any time hereafter, be called in Question;"

And the Question was put, That that Question be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And so the main Question being put;

It was Resolved, That these Words be added to the former Vote.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth utterly disapprove of the Proceedings of Colonel Monck, in the Treaty and Cessation made between him and Owen Roe O Neile: And that the innocent Blood which hath been shed in Ireland, is so fresh in the Memory of this House, that this House doth detest and abhor the Thoughts of any Closing with any Party of Popish Rebels there, who have had their Hands in shedding that Blood: Nevertheless, the House being satisfied that what the said Colonel Monck did therein was, in his Apprehension, necessary for the Preservation of the Parliament of England's Interest there, the House is content the further Consideration thereof, as to him, be laid aside; and shall not, at any time hereafter, be called in Question.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Council of State, to give Direction for printing the Report from the Council of State, and so much of the Letters and Proceedings as concerns this Business; and the Votes of the House thereupon.

Colonel Monck being again called in, Mr. Speaker did declare unto him these Votes of the House.

Letter read.

A Letter from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to Mr. Scott, from Tenby, of the Second of August 1649, was this Day read.

Excise.

Ordered, That the Business touching the Excise be heard on Tuesday next.

Lord President.

Ordered, That the Lord President's Act be reported on Tuesday next.

Col. Marten.

Ordered, That Colonel Marten's Business be reported on Tuesday next.

Judge of Chester.

Ordered, That a Patent be passed unto Tomas Fell Esquire, quamdiu se bene gesserit, to be the Second Judge of Chester, and the other Towns in that Circuit, in the Room of Mr. Justice Warburton.

Seamen.

Ordered, That the Seamens Petition be read on Wednesday next.

Grant to Beecher, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Council of State, to pay unto Quartermaster General Beecher, and Adjutant General Sadler, the Sum of one hundred and Fifty Pounds apiece, towards this Expedition into Ireland, upon Account.

Sir A. Loftus.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Council of State, to consider what is fit to be done in the Business touching Sir Arthur Loftus, upon the Letter sent by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to Mr. Speaker, touching that Business, with the Petition of the said Sir Arthur inclosed.

Adjournment.

Ordered, That this House doth adjourn itself until Tuesday Morning next, according to former Order of this House.