House of Commons Journal Volume 8
15 May 1662

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 15 May 1662', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 429-431. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=26520 Date accessed: 20 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Jovis, 15 Maii, 14 Car.

Prayers.

Message from the King.

MR. Secretary Morice brings a Message from his Majesty in Writing: Which he delivered to Mr. Speaker: And it was read by Mr. Speaker; and was as followeth:

Expediting Business.

Militia, &c.

Draining Fens.

THOUGH His Majesty resolved to begin his Journey towards Portsmouth on Friday next; yet hoping that the publick Bills may, in a short time be ready for His Royal Assent, His Majesty is resolved to defer his Journey till Monday Morning: And, in the mean time, desires both Houses of Parliament to prepare and finish the publick Bills now before them: And, particularly, He doth earnestly recommend to them the Dispatch of the Bills for the Militia; for the Highways; Poor; and Printing: And, that the Nation may not suffer under the Reproach and Infamy of the Miscarriage in so glorious a Work as the Draining of the Fens (since there is not time for the passing a Bill that may provide for the several Interests) His Majesty both earnesly recommend to them the passing such a temporary Bill for Preservation of those Works, as hath already passed, and is now expired: And when the Parliament meets again, all particular Rights may be provided for: And His Majesty will be at the House on Monday next, to conclude this Session.

Given at Our Court at Whitehall, the Fifteenth Day of May, in the Fourteenth Year of Our Reign.

Poor Relief.

The Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Bill concerning the Poor, were read the First time.

And the several Amendments to the Amendment in the Thirty-third Line of the First Skin were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, were severally agreed to.

The Amendment to the Thirty-third Line was read the Second time.

The Question being put, To adhere to the Bill as to That Particular;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

The Amendment to the Thirty-fifth Line was read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Forty-first Line, being after the Word "Justices," to read the Proviso marked N° 1;

The Proviso was Three times read; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Fifty-third Line was read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Fifth Line of the Second Skin was read the Second time.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the said Amendment be postponed.

The Amendments were again read over, with the Coherence.

The First Paragraph of the Amendment to the Fifth Line of the Second Skin was read again.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords as to the leaving out the Clause for Power to imprison.

Resolved, That as to the other Clause of the Paragraph, the House doth adhere to the Bill.

The next Paragraph to be left out being read;

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords, as to the leaving out that Paragraph.

The next Paragraph, as to the Receiving of an Inmate, was read.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords, as to the leaving out That Paragraph.

The next Paragraph, as to the Workhouses, was read the Second and Third time;

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords, as to the leaving out That Paragraph.

Thanks to the King.

Resolved, That the humble Thanks of this House be returned to the King's Majesty by Mr. Secretary Morice, for his Majesty's Care in preserving the Peace and Privilege of this House.

Ordered, That the Lord Gorge, Sir William Tirringham, Colonel Sandys, and Mr. Chichley, do wait on his Majesty at such Time as he shall please to appoint; to give him Satisfaction touching the Difference that has lately happened between them.

Lords desire a Conference.

A Message from the Lords by Sir William Child and Sir Moundeford Brampston;

Mr. Speaker, the Lords desire a present free Conference in the Painted Chamber, with the Members of this House, upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference, upon the Bill for distributing the Sixty thousand Pounds amongst the loyal Commission Officers.

The Messengers being withdrawn;

The House agreed to a present free Conference.

And the Messengers being called in; Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the House had agreed to a present free Conference in the Painted Chamber, with the Lords, upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference, upon the Bill for distributing the Sixty thousand Pounds amongst the loyal Commission Officers.

Bills from Lords.

Another Message from the Lords, by Sir Moundeford Brampston and Sir Toby Woolrich;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned you Two Bills, * * * *, with some Amendments: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

And have also commanded us to let you know, That they have appointed to sit this Afternoon; and desire you to do the like.

And then the House adjourned till this Afternoon, Three of the Clock.

Post Meridiem.

Poor Relief.

THE House then proceeded to the Reading of the rest of the Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Bill concerning the Poor.

The Amendment to the Seventeenth Line of the Third Skin was read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The rest of the Amendments to the Amendment to the Third Line of the Fourth Skin were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Thirty-sixth Line of the Fourth Skin was read the Second time.

Resolved, That, as to this Amendment, the House doth adhere to the Bill.

The Amendment to the Thirty-eighth Line was read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Forty-second . . . being read; and the same being, instead "of Burgesses" to read "Justices of the Peace in their Quarter Sessions;"

Resolved, That this House, as to the Word "Burgesses," doth adhere to the Bill.

Resolved, That the House doth agree to insert the Words "Justices of Peace in their Quarter Sessions," with the Word "and" before "Justices;" and adding these Words, after the Word "Peace," "of the City of Westminster, and Liberties thereof."

The rest of the Amendments to the Amendment in the Seventh Line of the Fifth Skin were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to.

That Amendment being read; the same Alteration, of adhering to "Burgesses," and adding the Word "and" before "Justices;" and these Words "of the City of Westminster, and Liberties thereof," after the Word "Peace;" was agreed to be made in the First Line.

And the rest of the Amendment, with that Alteration, was agreed to.

The Two next Amendments were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to.

The Amendment to the Three-and-twentieth Line of the Fifth Skin was read the Second time; and, with the same Alteration as in the Seventh Line of the same Skin, agreed to.

The rest of the Amendments to the Two-and-twentieth Line of the Ninth Skin were read, and agreed to.

The said Amendment to the Two-and-twentieth Line was read the Second time;

Resolved, That this House doth adhere to the Bill as to the Word "Lands;" and agree to the Word "Inhabitants," with the Word "and," inserted between them.

The next Amendment to the Twenty-seventh Line was read; the same being, after the Word "shall be," to leave out the Words in the Bill to the Forty-eighth Line.

The First Clause, as to the Justices of the Peace in the County, was read.

Resolved, That this House, as to the Amendment for leaving out that Clause, doth agree with the Lords.

The next Clause, as to the Punishments, and Provisions, and Powers, in relation to Bastard Children, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That, as to This Clause, the House doth adhere to the Bill.

The next Amendment to the Fifty-second Line being, to leave out the rest of the Bill, and add the Proviso marked N 2d;

The First Clause, as to the Reading the Act in Churches, was read.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords to leave out That Clause.

The next Clause, concerning the Northern Counties, was read.

Resolved, That, as to That, the House doth adhere to the Bill, to have the Clause stand.

The next Clause concerning Christ's Hospital was read.

Resolved, That this House doth adhere to the Bill, as to this Proviso, to have it stand.

The Proviso to be added was read twice.

The First Clause, as to the transporting Rogues, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That, after the Word "that," at the End of the First Line, these Words, "it shall and may be lawful for," be added; and after "Sessions," in the Third Line of the Proviso, these Words be inserted; viz. "assembled, or the major Part of them, to transport, or cause to be transported, such Rogues, Vagabonds, and Sturdy Beggars, as shall be duly convicted, and adjudged to be incorrigible, to any of the English Plantations beyond the Seas;" and to leave out the rest of the Clause.

The next Paragraph, as to the Judges Power to transport Felons, &c. was read.

The Question being put, To add the Words "or Justices of Gaol Delivery,"to be Part of the Question;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

The Question being put, To agree to the Proviso;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went out.

Mr. Clifford, Tellers for the Yeas: 38.
Colonel Progers, With the Yeas,
Sir Edw. Mosley, Tellers for the Noes: 68.
Sir Tho. Meres, With the Noes,

So it passed in the Negative.

The next Proviso, as to the Dean of Westminster, was read: And, being put to the Question, passed in the Negative.

Ordered, That Mr. Pryn, Mr. Vaughan, Sir Richard Temple, Sir Tho. Meres, Sir Wm. Lewis, Serjeant Rainsford, Mr. Attorney of the Duchy, Sir Rich. Onslow, and Serjeant Maynard, do peruse the Bill and Amendments; and see they do cohere; and instruct themselves with Reasons, against the Conference.

Luson's Heirs.

Ordered, That Sir Richard Temple, Mr. Mountague, Mr. Vaughan, Sir John Talbot, Serjeant Maynard, and Mr. Solicitor General, or any Three of them, do withdraw, and bring in an Expedient, in Relation to the Right of those that claim as Heir to Sir Richard Luson; and of others in like Case.