House of Commons Journal Volume 8
17 May 1662

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 17 May 1662', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 432-434. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=26522 Date accessed: 20 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Sabbati, 17 Maii, 14 Car.

Prayers.

Lewson's Heirs.

MR. Vaughan reports from the Committee appointed to bring in an Expedient, as to the Heirs of Sir Richard Lewson, and others in the Case, to be added to the Lords Amendments to the Bill for restoring Impropriations, That the Committee had agreed and drawn up an Expedient, in Writing: Which was twice read.

A Saving, in Writing, was tendered, in lieu of the Proviso, in these Words following;

"Saving to all Persons, other than the said Trustees, and their Heirs, and all claiming under them, such Right to the said Rectories and Premisses, which accrued to them before the Nineteenth Day of May 1662."

Resolved, &c. That the said Saving be agreed to; and inserted into the Amendment sent from the Lords, to the * Line of the * Skin.

Bills from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir William Child and Sir Nathaniell Hobart;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned you a Bill concerning Wool and Wool-fells, with some Amendments; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House: And have also sent you down an Act for continuing the temporary Act touching the Fens; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House: And do also desire a present free Conference with the Members of this House in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference upon the Bill of the Militia.

The Messengers being withdrawn; and the House having agreed to the Conference;

And the Messengers being again called in; Mr. Speaker did acquaint them, That the House had agreed to a present free Conference.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Howard, Sir Thomas Widdrington, and Mr. Pryn, be added to the Persons appointed to manage the Conference.

Leather Trade.

Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Bill against exporting of Leather and Raw Hides; and the Proviso, in Parchment to be added to the Bill; were twice read; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to; and then read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Amendments, and Proviso, be ingrossed, and made Part of the Bill; and then the Bill be returned back to the Lords.

Exporting Wool.

Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Bill concerning Wool and Wool-fells, were twice read; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to; and then read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Amendments be inserted and made Part of the Bill: And that the Bill be returned to the Lords.

Coinage.

An ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, against melting down the Coin of the Land, was this Day read the Third time.

Resolved, &c. That the said Bill be agreed to; and sent back to the Lords.

Militia.

Sir Heneage Finch reports from the Committee appointed to manage the free Conference with the Lords, upon the Bill for the Militia, the several Particulars wherein the Lords do agree or differ from this House: Which, being in Writing, were opened by the Reporter; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table.

And the First Amendment, last delivered at the Conference by this House, was agreed.

The next Point, arising upon the Amendment made by the Lords to the Twenty-ninth and Thirtieth Lines of the * Skin, which this House would not agree to, and the Lords do not agree to alter, was debated.

And the Question being put, To adhere to the Bill, as to this Point;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

The next Point, as to the Fifth Line of the Fourth Skin being read;

Resolved, That as to this Particular, this House doth agree with the Lords.

The next Point was, upon the Expedient, offered by the Lords to their former Proviso, and the Amendments made thereto by this House: To which the Lords had made some Alterations and Additions; and sent the same down fair written.

The Matter which came into Debate thereupon, was, upon the Lords Dissent from . . . Alteration, made by this House to the Seventh Line of the Lords Proviso, and expressed in the Eighth, Ninth, Tenth, and Eleventh Lines; as to the Manner of assessing the Peers.

The Question being put, To agree with the Lords;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went out.

Lord Ancram, Tellers for the Yeas: 91.
Colonel Fretchvile, With the Yeas,
Mr. Seymour, Tellers for the Noes: 89.
Mr. Boscowen, With the Noes,

And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.

The rest of the Amendments made by the Lords to the Expedient sent from this House, were twice read; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to.

Conference desired.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Littleton do go up to the Lords, and desire a free Conference with the Lords, upon the Subject Matter of the last free Conference upon the Amendments to the Bill of the Militia: And that he do carry up the Bills that are passed this House to the Lords.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir William Child and Sir Nathaniell Hobart;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned you an Answer, in Writing, to the Message from this House, for a Conference with the Lords upon several Bills: Which was, "That, though it be not usual to have a Conference upon the Amendments of more Bills than one, at once; yet, in regard of the Shortness of Time, the Lords do agree to a Conference, as is desired; and appoint it to be in the Painted Chamber, presently after the free Conference ended."

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor General, Colonel Fretchvile, and Mr. Vaughan, do manage the Conference on the Bill for restoring Impropriations.

Ordered, That Mr. Pryn, Sir Tho. Strickland, Mr. Rigby, Sir Francis Goodrick, Sir Richard Onslow, Mr. Milward, Mr. Steward, and Sir John Holland, do manage the Conference on the Amendments to the Bill concerning the Poor.

Ordered, That Sir John Duncombe, Mr. Waller, and Mr. Mountague, do manage the Conference upon the Bill concerning Sheriffs.

Ordered, That Sir Phillip Warwick, Sir William Compton, and Mr. Mountague, do manage the Conference upon the Bill concerning Accompts, not pardoned.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Widdrington, Sir Tho. Gower, and Mr. Musgrave, do manage the Conference upon the Bill for preventing Thefts in the Northern Borders.

Relief of Loyalists.

The House then resumed the Debate upon the Proviso, sent from the Lords, to the Bill, sent from this House, for distributing the Sixty thousand Pounds amongst the Cavaliers: Which Proviso was, in effect, the same with That sent from the Lords, to the Bill of Militia: For the Lords being assessed by Peers: Which was twice read.

The Question being put, To agree to the Proviso;

It passed in the Negative.

The Question being put, That the said Proviso be amended;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Meres, Sir Phillip Warwick, and Mr. Pryn, do withdraw, and amend the Proviso.

The Proviso being amended, was twice read.

The Question being put, That the Proviso, so amended, be agreed to;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That the Lord Bruce do go up to the Lords, and desire a free Conference upon the Bill and Proviso, so amended.

Conference with Lords.

Mr. Solicitor General reports from the free Conference touching the Militia, That the Lords had agreed with this House upon all the Particulars, as the same were sent up from this House, and delivered at the free Conference.

Entry of Reasons for agreeing with Lords.

Ordered, That an Entry be made in the Journal of this House, declaring, That this House, after many Conferences, did agree to the Proviso, sent from the Lords, new-written, to the Bill of Militia, as an Expedient to the Proviso, sent from this House, touching the Lords being assessed by Peers: And that this House had condescended, not that they were in any Sort convinced of the Lords Right in this Particular, by the Reasons offered at the Conference; but rather compelled to yield, out of their Care of the publick Safety, and the present Necessity cast upon them by the Shortness of the Session: And, to evidence, That the House had, in this Regard, yielded, the same Proviso, in Effect, being sent from the Lords to the Bill for distributing Sixty thousand Pounds amongst the loyal Party (which came next into Debate) was amended; and agreed to.

Conference desired.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir William Child and Sir Toby Woolrich;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have agreed to a present free Conference, upon the Amendments to the Bill for distributing Sixty thousand Pounds: And also desire a present free Conference upon the Amendments to the Bill touching Accompts, not pardoned, in the Painted Chamber.

The Messengers being withdrawn; and the House having agreed to the Conference;

The Messengers were again called in;

And Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the House had agreed to a present free Conference, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Bill touching Accompts not pardoned.

Ordered, That the Lord Bruce, Sir Thomas Meres, and Sir Robert Howard, do manage the Conference upon the Bill for distributing the Sixty thousand Pounds.

Bill agreed to.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir William Child and Sir Nathaniell Hobart;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to acquaint you, That they have agreed with you in the Amendments to the Bill for restoring Advowsons and Impropriations; the Bill concerning Sheriffs; the Bill for preventing Thefts in the Northern Borders; and the Bill for distributing Sixty thousand Pounds amongst the loyal Party.

Highways.

The House then proceeded to the Reading of the Amendments to the Bill for Highways.

Which being read the First time;

The Amendments unto the Amendment in the Eighteenth Line of the Fourth Skin, were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to.

The Amendment to the Fourth Skin, Eighteenth Line, was read the Second time.

The Question being put, To adhere to the Bill, as to th a Particular;

I was resolved in the Affirmative.

The rest of the Amendments unto the Amendment, in the Forty-first and Forty-second Line, were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed to.

The Amendment to the Forty-first and Forty-second Line being read the Second time;

Resolved, &c. That, as to this, the House doth adhere to the Bill.

The Amendments from thence to the Sixth Line, Fifth Skin; were read the Second time; and agreed to.

The Question being put, To adhere to the Bill, as to the Amendment in the Sixth Line of the Fifth Skin;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

The several Provisoes, to be added to the Bill, were twice read.

The Question being severally put, To agree to the Proviso touching Warham Bridge; the Proviso touching Cockbridge; the Provison, as to Carts going in Horse Tracts; and the Seventh Proviso;

The same did severally pass in the Negative.

Ordered, That Sir John Talbott do desire a Conference with the Lords upon the Amendments to the Bill for Highways.

Sir John Talbot reports, That the Lords had agreed to a Conference upon the Amendments to the Bill for Highways.

Lords desire a Conference.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir William Child and Sir Thomas Estcourt;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords desire a present free Conference with this House, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Bill for the Poor.

The Messengers being withdrawn; and the House having agreed to a present free Conference;

The Messengers were again called in: And Mr. Speaker informed them, That this House had agreed to a present free Conference.

Ordered, That the former Persons do manage the Conference.

Regulating the Press.

Dr. Birkinhead reports from the Committee to which the Bill for regulating the Press, and for preventing the Printing of scandalous and seditious Books, was committed, several Amendments to be made, and Provisoes to be added to the said Bill: Which he read, with the Coherence, in the Bill; and after delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: And some of them being read;

Ordered, That the same Amendments be proceeded in, the first Business, on Monday Morning.

Customs Fees.

Mr. Clifford reported from the Committee to whom the Table of Fees for the Officers of his Majesty's Customs and Subsidies was re-committed, a Schedule of Fees which were not in the Table of 4°Jac. Regis, for the Port of London, and the Members and Creeks thereunto belonging; as also a Table, wherein all the aforesaid Fees were inserted; with a Preface, and certain Rules; all agreed upon at the said Committee: And delivered in the same at the Clerk's Table.

Mr. Clifford likewise reported from the same Sub Committee, several other Tables of Fees for the respective Ports of Yarmouth, Milford, Ipswich, Kingston upon Hull, Lin Regis, Boston, and Newcastle upon Tyne: which were likewise agreed upon by the Committee; And delivered in the same also at the Clerk's Table.

And the said General Table of Fees for the Port of London, with the Members and Creeks thereunto belonging, being read;

The Question being put, That for all Goods not paying Twenty Shillings Customs in or out, there shall be put half Fees taken for all Coquets, Warrants, Debentures, Transires, or Certificates;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the said Table of Fees, as it was reported, and read, with the Alteration aforesaid, be agreed to: And that the same be ingrossed, And Mr. Speaker is authorized to sign the same.

And the said several Tables of Fees, for the respective Ports of Yarmouth, Milford, Ipswich, Kingston upon Hull, Bristoll, Lin Regis, Boston, and Newcastle upon Tyne, which were likewise agreed upon, by the Committee, being also read;

Resolved, upon the Question, That the said several Tables of Fees, as they are reported and read, be agreed to: And that the same be ingrossed: And Mr. Speaker is authorized to sign the said respective Tables.