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House of Commons Journal Volume 3
3 November 1643

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 3 November 1643', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 299-301. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=2673 Date accessed: 24 November 2014.


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Die Veneris, 3 Novembris, 1643.

PRAYERS.

Canterbury, &c. Ministers.

A LETTER, from Canterbury, from divers Deputy Lieutenants, of the 31st of October 1643, concerning the Sermons preached in the Cathedral there.

Ordered, That the Mayor of Canterbury, and the Corporation there, and that the Mayor of Rochester, and the Corporation there, do return to the House the Names of such Ministers as are well affected, and able, and good, and orthodox Men, that they may be recommended, by this House, to the Assembly of Divines, to receive their Approbation.

Impropriate Livings.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Sequestrations, to consider of allowing to Vicars and Curates competent Means out of sequestrable impropriate Livings, and to make such Allowances as they shall think fit.

Newport Garison.

A Letter from his Excellency, of the 2d of November, was this Day read, concerning the Settlement of a Pay for the Garison of Newport; wherein he desires, that the Counties of Essex, Cambridge, and Huntingdon, may be brought in to bear a proportionable Rate, in the Charge of the Garison of Newport.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Gentlemen of the Counties of Essex, Cambridge, and Huntingdon, and of the other Counties of the Association, to consider of bringing in, and paying, a proportionable Rate towards the Payment of the Garison of Newporte Pannell: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, at Sir Dudley North his Chamber: And Sir Tho. Checke is appointed to take care hereof.

Gloucester Garison.

A Letter from Colonel Massie, Governor of Gloucester, relating the State and Condition of the Garison of Gloucester, of the 28th of October 1643, was this Day read; and Ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Gloucester; who are to consider of all the Particulars in that Letter, and of an Answer to them.

They are likewise to prepare a Letter to be written to the Governor, from Mr. Speaker.

Cooke's Sequestration, &c.

Resolved, &c. That Wm. Cooke Esquire, Heir of Sir Rob. Cooke, deceased, late a Member of this House, is with the Enemy, and a Delinquent, and his Estate liable to the Ordinance of Sequestration.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of the said Wm. Cooke, now under Sequestrators for the Use of the Parliament, shall be disposed of, by the Lady Cooke, Wife of the said Sir Rob. Cooke; and Colonel Edw. Cooke, for the Maintenance, and raising Portions, of all younger Children of the said Sir Rob. Cooke; subject to the Assessments and Taxations as other Lands are in the same Townships where the said Lands lie.

Resolved, &c. That Wm. Rowles is not thought fit to inhabit in the City of Gloucester, the same being a Garison for the Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That the Lady Cooke may more conveniently dwell in some other Place than in Gloucester, now in Garison; and therefore that she be required to dwell somewhere else.

Western Committee.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of the Western Counties do meet this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Collecting Money.

Ordered, That the Forces under the Lord Grey be assisting to the Collectors and Receivers, in the collecting and receiving the Monies upon the Sequestrations; the Twentieth; and Fifth Part; the weekly Assessments; in the Counties of Leicester and Rutland: And that, out of such Monies as shall arise upon the Twentieth Part, and weekly Assessments, within those Counties, a Month's Arrears shall be paid unto the said Forces, and Care taken for the Payment of them for the future.

Sequestred Estates.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Sequestrations, to consider of, and prepare, some Order to prevent that the Lands of such Persons, whose Estates are sequestrable, may not lie unmanured, untilled, or unstocked; and to present it, with all Speed, to the House.

Preservation of Plymouth, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have appointed a Committee, of Three of their Lordships; and desire this House to appoint a Committee of a proportionable Number; to take into Consideration the Preservation of the Town of Plymouth; and to meet presently in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings; and to have Power to adjourn from Time to Time, and Place to Place, as they think fit.

Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Waddon, Sir Jo. Young, Mr. Nicoll, Sir Edm. Fowell, Mr. Rolle;

This Committee is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, presently, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings; to take into Consideration the Preservation of Plymouth: And have Power to adjourn from Time to Time, and Place to Place, as they think fit.

Ordered, That this Committee shall have likewise Power to take into Consideration the Preservation of Poole and Lynne: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Lords desire a Conference.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Concurrence, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, by Committees of both Houses, concerning an Injury done to a Member of the Peers House, by a Member of this House.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the first Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed a Committee, of a proportionable Number, to meet with the Committee of the Lords House, concerning Plymouth; with the Power desired.

Waller's Expedition.

Ordered, That Mr. Alderman Penington, and Sir Arth. Heselrig, do repair to the Committee for the Militia, to desire them, that Sir Wm. Waller may be, from time . . . supplied with all Necessaries for his present Expedition.

Reflections on Lord Wharton.

Answer returned by the second Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Ellis, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Mr. Ellis reports, That the Lord Say told them, that a very great Wrong was done to a Member of their House: The Member was my Lord Wharton: The Words were, "That the said Lord had made his Peace at Oxon; and therefore was not fit to be entrusted with any publick Trust:" The Member of this House, that spoke these Words, was Sir Hen. Mildmay; who, being questioned upon it, said, he had it from the Lord Murray, who is, this Afternoon, to go into Scotland, by Sea. They have appointed a Committee of their House, of Three Lords; and desire this House to appoint a Committee, of a proportionable Number; to examine the Lord Murray: and, if that this be proved, that he, being a Person of Honour, that they would give him fit Reparation.

Sir Edw. Partheridge, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Mr. Grantham, Lord Lisle, Mr. Ashherst, are appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to be present at the Examination of the Lord Murray, this Day to go into Scotland, concerning Words, informed to be spoken by him, touching the Lord Wharton.

Hungerford's Petition.

Ordered, That the Committee upon the Petition concerning Sir Edw. Hungerford, do meet on Monday next, at Three of Clock, in the usual Place.

Bailing Evelyn.

The Question being put, whether Sir Jo. Evelyn, of Godstone, should be bailed, upon good Security, by Citizens;

The House was divided.

Sir H. Cholmeley, Sir Edw. Patheriche, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 25.
Sir H. Heyman, Sir Tho. Walsingham, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 17.

Resolved, That Sir Jo. Evelyn of Godstone shall be forthwith bailed, upon good Security, by Citizens, such as Alderman Pennington shall allow of; provided that he go not into the County of Surry.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Erle went up to the Lords, to desire that the Care of Poole and Lyme may be recommended unto the Committee for Plymouth.

He carried up the Names of such Persons as were added Yesterday, to be Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Kent.

Answer.

- Brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to both the Messages carried up by him.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Erle went up to the Lords, to acquaint them, that this House has appointed a Committee for the Examination of the Lord Murray: -Was to desire, that the Lords would expedite the Ordinance for the associating the Counties of Kent, Sussex, Surry, Hants: And carried up the Names of Sir Arth. Hesilrig, and Sir Peter Wentworth, to be of the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom.

Answer.

-Brings Answer, That the Lords desire, that the Committee for examining the Lord Murray may meet presently in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings: - Do agree to the Names of Sir Arth. Hesilrig, and Sir Peter Wentworth, to be added to the Committee of the Safety: And, as to the Ordinance of the Association, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Fyfeild Parsonage.

An Order for sequestring the Rents and Profits of the Parsonage of Fyfeild, in the County of Essex, whereof Alexander Reade is now Parson, to the Use and Benefit of Constance Josop Master of Arts, a godly and orthodox Divine; who is hereby required to preach diligently every Lord's-day, there; and to take Care for the Discharge of the Cure of that Place, in all the Duties thereof; and to receive the Profits thereof, until further Order shall be taken by this House; was this Day read; and, by Vote, upon the Question, assented unto.

Sir Edward Hales, &c.

Ordered, That the Horse, Arms, and other Goods of Sir Edward Hales, seized in Kent, before the Sequestration of his Estate; and such Goods which have been sold and disposed of to the Soldiers, or for the Service of the County, before the Composition passed concerning Sir Edward Hales' Sequestration; shall not be restored. And they do further Order, That the Servants of Sir Edward Hales, and his Grandchild, that were actually in the Rebellion in Kent, be apprehended, and sent up to the House, to be proceeded against according to their Demerits; and that Sir Edward Hales, and his Grandchild, do still continue secured.

Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir Henry Heyman, and Sir Thomas Walsingham, are appointed to write a Letter to the Committee in Kent, to acquaint them with this Order, and to give them Thanks for their Affections, testified by their continual good Services; and to assure them, that their Services shall never want the Encouragement of this House.

Straugers not to land.

Upon Information given, of the daily Resort of Strangers from Parts beyond the Seas into this Kingdom of England, to the great Prejudice of the State in these Times of imminent Danger; it is therefore Ordered, by the Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Earl of Warwick, Admiral of the Fleet, now at Sea, for Defence of King and Parliament, do take special Care, and likewise give strict Charge unto all Captains and Commanders of Ships under his Command, that they nor any of them, do permit and suffer any Strangers, Aliens, to land in this Kingdom, from any Parts beyond the Seas; saving such as are Merchants, and follow their Trade of Merchandizing, or such others as have Licence to land by Authority from either or both Houses of Parliament.

Lord Murrey's Examination.

Sir Tho. Cheeke presents to the House, the Examination of the Lord Murrey, taken by a Committee of Lords and Commons: Which was read; but nothing done upon it.

Sir E. Scott's, &c. Petition.

Ordered, That the Petition of Sir Edw. Scott and Edward Scott Esquire be specially recommended to the Committee for Obstructions in Courts of Justice.

Windesore Castle.

The Petition of the Officers and Soldiers of the Garison of Windesore Castle was this Day read; and ordered, to be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning; and that the House do consider, how Monies may be raised for speedy Payment of that Garison, and others.

Rudgeley's Petition.

The humble Petition of Colonel Rudgeley was read; and ordered to be taken into Consideration, when the Ordinance of the Earl of Denbigh's is taken into Consideration.

Worcester, &c. Counties.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Counties of Worcester, Salop, Stafford, and Warwick, be read, the first Business To-morrow Morning.