Lunæ, 29 die Junii, 1685. 1Jac. IIdi.
Prayers.
Bangor Cathedral.
AN ingrossed Bill, sent down from the Lords, intituled,
An Act for Repair of the Cathedral Church of Bangor, and for the Maintenance of the Choir there, and for
the Augmentation of the Revenue of the Bishoprick of
Bangor; and for an Augmentation of several Vicarages
within the Comportions of Llandinum in the Diocese of
Bangor aforesaid; was read a Second time.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Ryves,
Mr. Paston, Mr. Essex Strode, Dr. Perrott, Sir Orlando
Gee, Sir Richard Lloyd, Sir Edward Herbert, Mr. Mellish,
Mr. Waldron, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir Tho. Exton, Mr.
Wareing, Mr. Christy, Mr. Grenvill, Sir Geo. Winneve,
Sir Dan. Fleming, Mr. Price, Sir Wm. Cooke, Mr. Walcott, Sir Phil. Egerton, Sir Fra. Clark, Mr. Dolben, Mr.
Wogan, and all the Members for both Universities, and
for North Wales and South Wales: And they are to meet
at Three of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Speaker's
Chamber.
Register of Deaths, &c.
A Bill for registring the Deaths, Burials, Marriages,
and Issue, of the Nobility and Gentry of England, was
read a Second time.
The Question being put, That the Bill be committed;
The House divide.
The Yeas go forth.
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| Tellers, |
Sir Richard Temple, |
for the Yeas, |
75. |
| Mr. Bickerstaffe, |
| Tellers, |
Mr. Wogan, |
for the Noes, |
83. |
| Mr. Price, |
And so it passed in the Negative.
Resolved, That the Bill be rejected.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill, upon
the Debate of the House, for registring the Deaths,
Burials, Marriages and Issue, of the Nobility and Gentry
of England: And that Mr. North, Mr. Christy, and Mr.
Wogan, do prepare and bring in the same.
Army Accounts.
Mr. Done reports from the Committee appointed to
inspect the Accounts of the Commissioners for disbanding the late Forces, That the Committee, having taken
the same into their Consideration, had agreed upon a
Report, which they directed him to present to the House
in Writing: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards
delivered the same in at the Table: Where the same
being read, is as follows;
The Question being, Whether Sir Gilbert Gerrard,
Sir Thomas Player, Colonel Birch, and Colonel Whitley,
the Commissioners for disbanding the Army, ought jointly
to be charged with, and accountable for, the 100,000£. received by Sir Thomas Player, at the Exchequer, for that
Service;
Resolved, That the said Commissioners are jointly
chargeable with, and accountable for, the said Money.
In relation to the Report to be made to this House;
The Question being, Whether the Committee should
report to the House, What Sums did appear, upon Examination of the Commissioners Accompts, to be vouched,
should be so reported; and, What did appear to be unvouched, should be reported unvouched;
Resolved, by the Committee, That it should be so re
ported.
The Question being, Whether it be the Opinion of the
Committee, That the House should be moved, That
(seeing the Committee cannot make a perfect Examination of the Deputy Commissioners Accompts for disbanding in the Out Districts; likewise what has been paid for
Cloaths and Quarters; as also to the Officers of the Army
upon Debentures, and otherwise; and to ascertain, How
far the Money given by the Act fell short of answering
the End for which it was given), for the Satisfaction of
all Persons concerned, Publication should be made, That
they come in, and make out their Demands, in the Time
of the Recess of the Parliament;
To all which, the Committee agreed.
A further Question being, Whether it should be reported
to the House, That Mr. Kingdon has accounted for, and is
legally discharged of, the Sum of 22,311£. 15s. 9d. received out of the Exchequer; being Part of the 206,462£.
17s. 3d. given by the Act for disbanding the Army;
Resolved in the Affirmative.
Resolved, That the Contents hereafter following be Part
of the Report from the Committee to the House.
As to the Method of their Proceeding; the Care of the
Committee in general was, to get before them such Accompts and Papers as were needful; and then to put those
Accompts and Papers into the most expeditious and safe
Way of Examination: For the First, the Committee gave
Order to the said Commissioners, to produce, and deliver
to them, all Accompts, Papers, and Vouchers they had,
of what Nature soever, relating to this Affair: Which they
did; and at the same time declared, They were all the
material Vouchers they had to offer in Discharge of their
respective Accompts: And likewise desired Sir Robert
Howard to certify the Committee, What Money was received upon the last Disbanding Act; and How, and to
Whom, the same was issued and paid; and likewise, what
Debentures were drawn by the Commissioners; and for
what Services; and what had been paid for Interest: All
which Sir Robert has punctually done.
When the Committee were possessed of the said Accompts, Papers, and Vouchers, their next Care was, to put
them into a proper Method of Examination; and therefore desired several Gentlemen of the Committee, whom
they conceived fit and able to perform this Service, to peruse the said Accompts, and to compare them with their
proper Vouchers: Who readily undertook it, and agreed
to meet de die in diem, in the Court of Wards, for Performance thereof: Which they, or some of them, have
since constantly done, and made what Progress, for the
time, they could, in the said Examination.
And further reports, How the Committee did, upon Examination, find their Accompts, so far as they have been
able to look into them; for that, for want of Time, they
have not been able to make near so perfect an Examination
as is needful. And, first, The Committee, upon Examination,
finds, That by the Consent and Approbation of the other
Commissioners, Sir Thomas Player did receive out of the
Receipt of his Majesty's Exchequer, for disbanding the
Army, the Sum of 100,000£.
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| Whereof he discharges himself in this following Method; viz. |
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d. |
| By Money paid to Forces disbanded by Sir Gilbert Gerrard
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8,663 |
15 |
1 |
| By Money paid the Forces disbanded by Colonel Whitley
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9,046 |
18 |
10½ |
| By Money paid the Forces disbanded by Colonel Birch
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25,105 |
3 |
4 |
| By Money paid to Forces disbanded by their Deputies |
38,291 |
18 |
6 |
| By Money paid in Part for Cloaths |
3,082 |
19 |
9 |
| By Money paid for Exchequer Fees for the said 100,000 l. |
360 |
15 |
8 |
| By Money paid Geo. Blackborne for keeping Correspondence with Disbanders in the Out Districts |
42 |
5 |
8 |
| By Money paid to Tho. Corbyn for examining Accompts |
62 |
12 |
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| By Money paid Wm. Jones for Disbanding in the Isle of Wight
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20 |
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| By Money paid the Four Commissioners, for their Allowance of 2d. per Pound |
1,716 |
13 |
4 |
| By Money paid to Forces disbanded by himself, which is made the Charge of Sir Thomas Player's particular Accompt of Disbanding |
13,859 |
9 |
10 |
| The Sums amount to |
100,252 |
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11½ |
Which is 252 l. 11s. 11d. ½ more than the Charge.
But we conceive, that 124£. 17s. 8d. being paid to their
Agents, ought to be borne out of their 2d. per Pound
allowed by the Act for themselves and Servants.
The Committee comes now to give you the State of
the Accompts of the said Commissioners, of the Money
they paid to the Forces they severally disbanded.
In Examination whereof they have only compared
their Accompts with the Establishment and Muster Rolls,
as to the Numbers of Men established and mustered; but,
for want of Time, have not been able to examine their
Computations of the Officers and Soldiers Pay, to see
that they are rightly calculated; which is a Thing necessary to be done, that, if any Errors do appear, they may
be rectified, and the Accomptants charged with what
they have placed to Accompt more than the Establishment and Muster Rolls will warrant.
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| And, first, of Sir Thomas Player; whom the Committee charges with the aforesaid Sum of |
£. |
s. |
d. |
| 13,859 |
9 |
10 |
| Who alleges to have paid to the Forces by him disbanded |
13,859 |
9 |
10 |
| Whereof he has produced Vouchers for |
10,612 |
12 |
7 |
| And there remains unvouched |
3,246 |
17 |
3 |
| Sir Gilbert Gerrard is charged, as before, with |
8,663 |
15 |
1 |
| In Discharge whereof he alleges to have paid |
8,663 |
15 |
1 |
| Whereof he produces Vouchers for |
7,074 |
5 |
6 |
| And there remains unvouched |
1,589 |
9 |
7 |
| Colonel Whitley is charged with |
9,046 |
18 |
10½ |
| In Discharge whereof he alleges to have paid |
9,046 |
18 |
10½ |
| Whereof he produces Vouchers |
7,088 |
14 |
8 |
| And there remains unvouched |
1,958 |
4 |
2 |
| Colonel Birch is charged with |
25,105 |
3 |
4 |
| In Discharge whereof he alleges to have paid |
25,105 |
3 |
4 |
| Whereof he produces Vouchers for |
21,951 |
11 |
2 |
| And there remains unvouched |
3,323 |
12 |
2 |
| Sub Commissioners in the Out Districts are charged with |
38,291 |
18 |
6 |
| For which legal and proper Vouchers are not produced for upwards of |
30,000 |
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Thus far the Committee has proceeded in this Affair:
There remains yet to be examined, What has been paid
for Cloaths and Quarters; and, What remains due upon
those Accompts, and also to the Officers of the Army,
upon Debentures, or otherwise; and likewise to ascertain,
how far the Money given by the Act fell short of answering the End for which it was given. The Committee
thinks this Work will require a considerable Time to perfect the Examination thereof; possibly much more than
this Session will allow: And, if so, this humble Proposal to this honourable House is, That some Order may
be taken for the Performance thereof, during the ensuing
Recess: Which the Committee conceives may best be
done by appointing a select Number to meet at a certain Place, to make the aforesaid Examination and Adjustment; and, in order thereto, to receive, examine, and
adjust the Pretensions of all Creditors, and others, concerned in this Matter; and to report the same to the
House at their next Meeting: And, that all Persons,
who are concerned therein, may be acquainted therewith,
the Committee humbly conceives it will be needful, that
some public Notice be given by publishing the same in
the Gazette, or otherwise, as may be thought most convenient.
All which the Committee most humbly submits to the
great Wisdom of this honourable House to determine.
Resolved, That the Matter of the said Report be recommitted to the same Committee: And they are impowered to prepare and bring in a Bill, upon the Debate
of the House, for the taking and better adjusting of the
said Accompts.
Foreign Protestants Nat.
A Bill for a general Naturalization of all such French
Protestants as are now residing in England, Wales, and
Berwick upon Tweed, or the Isles of Jersey and Guernsey;
and such others as shall come over within some limited
time; was read.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Sir John Cordell, a Member of this
House, have Leave to go into the Country.
General Register.
A Bill for a general Registry of Estates, Titles, and
Incumbrances, was read the Second time.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Sir Tho.
Meres, Mr. North, Lord Falkland, Mr. Christy, Sir Jos.
Williamson, Lord Digby, Mr. Solicitor General, Mr. Serjeant Maynard, Mr. Bulkley, Mr. Wogan, Mr. Bickerstaffe,
Mr. Tipping; Mr. Butler, Sir Chr. Wren, Mr. Geers, Mr.
Gunter, Sir Jos. Tradenham, Mr. Fanshaw, Sir Tho. Clarges, Mr. Smith, Sir John Brampston, Sir John Hoskins,
Mr. Duncombe, Sir Dan. Fleming, Sir Tho. Darcy, Mr.
Porter, Sir Richard Temple, Sir William Cooke, Sir John
Wynn, Mr. John Hoskins, Mr. Mellish, Sir John Lowther,
Sir Chr. Musgrave, Sir George Pudsey, Sir Hen. Goodrick,
Sir Dudley North, Mr. Montague, Mr. Walker, Sir Hump.
Winch, Sir Cha. Holt, Sir Tho. Hussey, Mr. Ashburnham,
Sir Orlando Gee, Sir Fra. Clark, Mr. Paston, Mr. Hodges,
Lord Ranelagh, Colonel Lee, Sir Benj. Bathurst, and all
the Members of the Long Robe, or any of them: And
all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet
at Three of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Speaker's
Chamber. And the particular Care of the Bill is recommended to Mr. North.
Preservation of King's Person, &c.
An ingrossed Bill for the Preservation of His Majesty's
Person and Government, was read the Third time.
And an Amendment being made thereto at the Table;
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be,
An Act for the better Preservation of his Majesty's Person
and Government.
Ordered, That Sir Edward Herbert do carry up the
Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ludgarsell Election.
Ordered, That the Matter, touching the Election of
Burgesses to serve for this present Parliament for the Borough of Ludgarsell in the County of Wilts, be put off:
And that it be heard before the Committee of Elections
and Privileges, the First Saturday of the next Meeting of
this Parliament, after the ensuing Recess.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be revived; and do sit
at Three of the Clock this Afternoon, in the respective
Places formerly appointed.
Barnstable Election.
Ordered, That the Merits of the Election for Barnstable in the County of Devon, be heard before the Committee of Elections and Privileges, at the next Meeting
after the Recess.
And then the House adjourned to Nine of the
Clock To-morrow Morning.