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THE Bill, intituled, An Act for the Confirmation of
Grants made, or to be made, by Commissions heretofore
granted, or hereafter to be granted, for the amending
of Defective Titles, was this Day brought into the
House, by the Lord Archbishop of Cant. the first of
the Committees, who signified, That the Committees
having considered of the said Bill, and finding so many
Additions or Alterations meet to be had of the same, as
the said Bill could not well proceed, they therefore moved (and was accordingly Agreed by the House), That a
new Bill should be drawn instead thereof.
Establishment of the Earl of Derby's Estates.
Moved, That some of the Committees on the Bill for
the establishing of the Earl of Derbies Lands, might be
appointed to consider of the Differences made by the
Coheirs, concerning some Points of the Bill; whereupon the Earls of Northampton and Salisbury were selected
accordingly for that Purpose.
Message from the H. C.
Message from the Lower House, by Sir Edward Hobby and others:
Naturalization of the Scots.
That the Knights, Citizens, Burgesses, and Barons
of the Commons Court of Parliament, have entered into
Consideration of the Reply of the Lords to their Answer; and do perceive, that the Understanding and Construction of the Message is left by the Lords to their
own Judgement; wherein if their Lordships be to treat
again of the Post nati, in what Sort they stand in Law,
he is commanded to say, that the Lords do already know
their Opinion and Inclination in that Point, and have
since that Time seen, heard, or known, nothing to the
contrary, that might cause them to alter their Opinion;
if of the Ante nati, and Conveniency of Naturalization,
they hold it to be a Matter of State, so as it is sitter to
have Beginning from the Upper House, that is better
acquainted with Matters of State; but notwithstanding,
if the Lords will be pleased to deal freely with them,
give them Light, and lay open themselves, and make
known in what Sort they mean to proceed, they will be
ready to attend the Service.
Answer for the present, requesting them to sit a while,
because the Lords will return Answer by Messengers of
their own of purpose.
Message from the Lords, by Way of Answer to the
abovesaid Message from the Lower House, sent by Sir
John Crooke and Sir Edward Stanhope:
That the Strength of both Houses consisteth in nothing more than in the Preservation of the Right and
Privilege, justly and properly belonging to either; in
which respect the Lords are very tender in suffering any
Thing to pass unanswered, whereof there may arise the
least Misunderstanding; and therefore, although some
Words delivered by the Gentleman appointed to speak
by the Lower House, were such as all their Lordships do conceive to be no more, than Lapsus Linguæ in
his Person (to which any Man may be subject); yet being spoken in that Time, and in his Person, qualified as
their Mouth, the Lords could not think it safe for them
to conceal from you, that, if it had been otherwise conceived than as his private Action, they must have used
that Freedom, which is necessary for one Friend to hold
with another, in telling you, that they will never acknowledge any Man that sitteth in the Lower House to
have the Right or Title of a Baron of Parliament; tho'
some private Gentlemen, and some that sit as Burgesses
for the Cinque Ports, may have such an Appellation
where they have their Habitation; no more could they
admit the Term of the Commons Court of Parliament,
because your House together, without theirs, doth
make no Court of Parliament. For the Matter itself,
wherein their Lordships resort to the Substance (having
said enough of that Mistaking), they are sorry to find so
much Reservation towards those that mean to use so much
Freedom, they being so well persuaded of all your good
Affections to the general Cause, as they were and are
willing to offer you Conference in general Terms, even
upon that particular Title of Naturalization; and therefore, for the present, they think it sit once again to declare thus much unto you, That of Naturalization they
have not had as yet amongst themselves any particular
Deliberation, either in Point of Law or Conveniency,
because they do intend to come unto you free from any
Obligation, by any Voice or Opinion, upon any Branch,
before they had in some Measure conferred of the whole,
according to the first Institution of their Conference;
this being the only Way to come to a good and speedy End. Whereas your Messenger used a Phrase of your
Resolution to attend the Service, their Lordships command me to declare unto you, that they understand it as
your Promise to conser, as well as to hear what may be
said of Conveniency of Naturalization; lest, when they
expect a Conference, you offer them an Audience, of
which there need be no Difficulty, seeing they come to
debate and argue without Conclusion, and of a Matter
to which no Man's Thought can be so great a Stranger as
not to be able to debate in some Degree or other; to
which Intent their Lordships will be ready, if you so like
it, to meet on Saturday, in the Afternoon, at the wonted
Place, and the same Committee, at Two of the Clock.
Answer, That they will send Answer To-morrow unto the Lords, by some of their own House.
Dominus Cancellarius continuavit præsens Parliamentum usque in diem crastinum, videlicet, 5m Martii, hora 9a.