House of Lords Journal Volume 2
7 May 1610

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 2: 7 May 1610', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 2: 1578-1614 (1767-1830), pp. 588-589. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=28570 Date accessed: 29 July 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 7 die Maii:

p. Archiepus. Cant.
p. Archiepus. Ebor.
p. Epus. London.
p. Epus. Dunelme.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Meneven.
p. Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Sarum.
p. Epus. Bangor.
p. Epus. Peterburgh.
p. Epus. Landaven.
Epus. Hereford.
p. Epus. Norwicen.
p. Epus. Bristoll.
p. Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Assaphen.
p. Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Elien.
p. Epus. Glocestren.
Epus. Bathon. et Wellen.
p. Epus. Roffen.
p. Epus. Cicestren.
p. Ds. Ellesmere, Cancellar. Angliæ.
p. Comes Salisburiæ, Mag. Thesaur. Angliæ.
p. Comes Northampton, Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli.
Marchio Winton.
p. Comes Notingham, Magnus Admirall. et Senescall.
p. Comes Suffolke, Camerar. Hospitii Regis.
Comes Arundell.
Comes Northumbriæ.
p. Comes Salopp.
Comes Kanciæ.
p. Comes Derbie.
p. Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
p. Comes Cumbriæ.
p. Comes Sussex.
p. Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bathon.
p. Comes Southampton.
p. Comes Bedford.
p. Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Lincolne.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Exon.
Comes Mountgomery.
Vicecomes Mountagu.
Vicecomes Bindon.
p. Vicecomes Lisle.
p. Ds. Bergevenny.
Ds. Audeley.
p. Ds. Zouch.
Ds. Willoughbie de Eresby.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Morley.
p. Ds. Stafford.
Ds. Scroope.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Herbert.
p. Ds. Darcie de Menell.
p. Ds. Mountegle.
Ds. Sandes.
p. Ds. Evre.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Riche.
Ds. Willughbie de Parham.
Ds. Sheffeild.
p. Ds. Pagett.
Ds. Darcie de Chich.
Ds. Howard de Effingham.
p. Ds. North.
Ds. Chandos.
p. Ds. Hunsdon.
p. Ds. St. John.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Norreys.
Ds. Howard de Walden.
p. Ds. Knollys.
p. Ds. Wotton.
p. Ds. Russell.
Ds. Graie.
p. Ds. Petre.
Ds. Harrington.
p. Ds. Danvers.
p. Ds. Gerrard.
p. Ds. Spencer.
p. Ds. Saie.
p. Ds. Denny.
Ds. Stanhope.
Ds. Carew.
p. Ds. Arundell.
p. Ds. Cavendish.
p. Ds. Knivett.
Ds. Clifton.

Fraudulent Conveyances of Sir Henry Chrisp's Lands to be void.

THE Bill, intituled, An Act for the making void of certain Conveyances, and the Estates limited thereby, unduly gotten from Henry Crispe, Knight, whereby he is defrauded of the Inheritance of divers Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, lying in the County of Kent, and for the establishing of the Inheritance of the same in the said Sir Henry Crispe and his Heirs, was returned into the House, by the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury, without Amendment or Addition.

His Grace withall declared, That Counsel was heard on both Sides, as well for the Bill as against it; that the Bill itself was not read; that this Morning a Petition was put in his Hand, on the Behalf of the Lady Crispe, whereby she desireth to be heard, with her Counsel, at the Bar, in open House.

Agreed, That forasmuch as the Bill was formerly read in the House in the Hearing of the Lords Committees, whereof, at the Committee, the Lords Committees were so sufficiently remembered, that they required not again to hear it; therefore the Not-reading of it at that Time was not material. Also, for that Counsel was heard before the Lords Committees, who thereby arose satisfied touching the Matter of the Bill, therefore it standeth not with the Order of the House again to hear Counsel at the Bar.

Waldgrave to sell Lands for certain Uses.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the enabling of Charles Walgrave, Esquire, to make Sale of certain Lands, for the Payment of his Debts, and the Advancement of his younger Sons and Daughters.

L Abergavenny to sell Lands for certain Uses.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act to enable Edward Nevile, Lord Bergevenny, and Sir Henry Nevill, Knight, his Eldest Son, to alien certain Lands, for Payment of their Debts, and Advancement of their Daughters and younger Sons.

Fraudulent Conveyances of Sir Henry Crisp's Lands to be void.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the making void of certain Conveyances, and the Estates limited thereby, unduly gotten from Sir Henry Crispe, Knight, whereby he is defrauded of the Inheritance of divers Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, lying in the County of Kent; and for the establishing of the Inheritance of the same in the said Sir Henry Crispe and his Heirs.

Report of the Conference concerning Tenures and Wardships.

The Lord Treasurer reported to the House the Conference with the Commons House, upon Friday last; wherein his Lordship declared, That the Lords Committees of this House found not that Conference to answer their Expectation: for, instead of Conference, they received by the Deputies of the Lower House a Message, not answering the Motion of this House formerly made to the Messengers, which by the Lower House were sent hither, whereby a free Dispute, by way of Questions, Answers, and Replies, and Change of Arguments, was by this House desired, as the fittest Mean to bring the Business in Hand to a good and speedy Issue: But, contrarywise, a Message in Writing, not in Notes for Direction, but verbally read by the said Committees of the Commons, whereby nothing was concredited to them, but they were directly barred from all Replying to any Thing that should be spoken, which his Lordship reported to this Effect: videlicet, That where the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses of the Nether House, had offered to give, for the Matter of Wards, Tenures, and Dependants thereon, an Hundred Thousand Pounds; and had by us received Answer, that His Majesty, as then advised, would not accept thereof, nor saw Reason to depart from His First Demand of Two Hundred Thousand Pounds Support, and Six Hundred Thousand Pounds Supply; his Occasions being in all Appearance now greater than before, and especially the Wards being now by them desired, which before was not spoken of, nor included in the King's Demand: That they have since entered into Re-examination of the Matter, and do find no Reason to alter their Offer: That their Purpose was to have laid the Burthen on the Lands-men; where it was moved unto them, that they should think upon some Course to make up the King's Demand, &c. They answered, That they cannot find how so huge a Sum may be levied, without grieving a Multitude of His Majesty's Poor Subjects: Howbeit, in all reasonable Matters, they will be ready to give His Majesty Satisfaction. Lastly, they acknowledge their great Obligation to His Majesty, who hath given them a further Leave to treat than ever was granted to any of their Predecessors; and further they would not go.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius continuavit præsens Parliamentum usque in diem Martis, videlicet, 8m diem Maii, hora 9a.