Lunæ, 1 die Aprilis; 1° Willielmi et Mariæ.
Prayers.
Excise on Beer.
A PETITION of the common Brewers of the City
and County of the City of Coventry; complaining
of divers Abuses in the Gaugers for gauging and charging their Worts in the Coppers and Coolers, and not in
the Tun; and returning it for Ale, whereas it was in
truth Beer; and that they have not had those Allowances which the Law directs; and that they had applied to the Commissioners of the Excise and Justices
of the Peace, but could have no Relief; and therefore
praying Relief therein; was read.
Resolved, That the Petition do lie upon the Table, to
be considered when the Matter of the Revenue, touching
the Excise, comes into Consideration.
Citizens fined for Riot at Guildhall, 1683.
A Petition of divers Citizens, unjustly accused of a
Riot at Guild-hall, 24 June 1682, and fined for the
same 8 May 1683, was offered to be read.
Resolved, That the Petition do lie upon the Table;
and that the Petitioners do attend To-morrow Morning,
to own the same.
Marlbrough Election.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter, touching the
Election of Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament
for the Borough of Marlbrough in the County of Wilts,
was referred, the State of the Fact, as it appeared to the
Committee: Which he produced in Writing: Which
being read at the Table, is as followeth;
Upon the Petition of the Inhabitants of Marlbrough,
against Sir John Ernly and Sir George Willoughby,
Sitting Members.
That the Question was, Whether the Election ought to
be by the Mayor, and a select Number of Burgesses; or,
by the Populace, paying Scot and Lot.
That, for the Petitioners, their Council insisted, that
there never was a Mayor till H. IV; and that, of common Right, the Inhabitants had a Right, unless the contrary was proved: That the Mayor was in time of
Memory as before; and so he, and the select Number,
could not prescribe to have the Right of Election.
That it was also insisted, that the Number of the Burgesses were uncertain; sometimes more, sometimes less.
And that they produced Returns, 28 E. I. pro Burgo.-
33 E. I. pro Communitate Burg' de Marlbrough.-
6 E. II. pro Burgo.-18 Eliz. A Charter.-of Mayor
and Burgesses, to govern the Town, with several Inspeximus's.
Also 23 Oct' 1640, a Return, under the Common Seal.
That for the Sitting Member the Counsel insisted, that
the Right of Election was in the Mayor, and select
Number of Burgesses, which were about Fifty.
And that Sir John Ernly had Forty-six, and Sir
George Willoughby had Forty-five.
And produced Indentures of Return 9 H. IV; 36
H. VIII; 7 E. VI; 1 Mar.: 1 and 2 Mar.: All mentioned to be under the Common Seal of Mayor and Burgesses.
And that a Witness, the Town Clerk, proved, That
he had lived at Marlbrough ever since 1636, and was
formerly Clerk to the Town Clerk, and took the Poll
upon several Elections, and had been Town Clerk himself 25 Years; and never heard of any popular Election,
till 1679, that the Pretence of such a Right was set up:
And that upon a Contest, touching That Election, Two
Persons, who are dead, and had been conversant about
Elections, testified and said (the One for Sixty, the other
for Forty Years) they never knew of any Election by the
Populacy.
That there was read, the Return, made upon that
Election, of the Lord Bruce and Mr. Bennet; and the
Report and Resolution of the House upon the Contest of
that Election, 24 December 1680; whereby it appeared,
that they who had been chosen by the Mayor and select
Number were duly elected.
That it was also testified, That the free Burgesses had
divers Privileges above the Inhabitants; as, that they
were Toll-free, and that there was a Close of Eighty
Acres always let to the free Burgesses.
And that, upon the whole Matter, the Committee,
finding, both by the Records, and Witnesses, that the
Usage of the Election for the said Borough hath been
by the Mayor and select Number of Burgesses, came to
Two Resolutions: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered them in at the Clerk's Table: Where
the same being read, are as follow;
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Right of Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament, for the Borough of Marlbrough in the County
of Wilts, is in the Mayor, and select Number of Burgesses.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Sir John Ernly, Knight, and Sir George Willoughby,
Knight, are duly elected Burgesses to serve in this present
Parliament for the Borough of Marlbrough.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That the House doth agree with the Committee, That the Right of Election of Burgesses to serve
in Parliament for the Borough of Marlbrough in the
County of Wilts, is in the Mayor, and select Number
of Burgesses.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That Sir John Ernly, Knight, and Sir George Willoughby, Knight, are duly elected Burgesses to serve in
this present Parliament for the Borough of Marlbrough.
Andover Election.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter, touching the
Election of Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament,
for the Borough of Andover in the County of Southampton, . . . . ; the State of the Fact as it appeared to the
Committee: Which he produced in Writing: Which,
being read at the Table, is as followeth:
Upon the Petition of Sir Rob. Henley, and John Venables, Esquire, against Francis Pawlett and John
Pollen, Esquires, the Sitting Members for the Borough of Andover.
That the Question was, Whether the Election lay in
the Bailiff, and select Number of Burgesses only; or, in
the Populace.
That, for the Petitioners, the Counsel insisted that Andover was an ancient Borough that used to send Members
to Parliament; which have been chosen by the Populace:
And produced Two Precepts, for the Electing of Burgesses, with their Returns, 33 E. I; and 34 E. I; but
it did not appear, by whom they were chose: As also,
Two Indentures of Return of Burgesses in 30 Eliz. and
39 Eliz; said to be with the Consent of the Corporation,
and Commonality of the Town:
Also, a Writ for Electing of a Burgess for that Town,
in the Place of Sir Henry Rainsford, then lately deceased;
with the Return of the same, Anno 41, under the Seal of
the Corporation: Which Return had been amended, and
Sir William Waller's Name put in the Place of Sir Henry
Vernon, originally returned.
An Order of this House was likewise read, for the referring the Petition of Sir William Waller, touching the
Election, to a Committee.
Richard Butcher, a Witness, said, Sir William Waller
in 41, was chosen by the Populace; for, he said, he heard
them cry out A Waller! and that there was a Poll demanded: That he is aged about Sixty Years of Age;
and was then about Fifteen Years of Age.
William Erney, a Witness, aged Sixty-four Years, spake
to the like effect.
Another Witness-That there was a Petition against
my Lord Delaware's Son, and Mr. Collins, in Oxford
Parliament, upon the Right of the Populacy; but the
Parliament was dissolved before it was determined.
That in Westminster Parliament, Two Years before
the Burgesses were chosen by the select Number: That,
for the last Parliament before This, the Town had a Design to assert their Rights; but the Town Clerk threatened them to prosecute them for a Riot if they did.
That for the sitting Members, the Counsel agreed
the Question; but said further, That Andover was a Corporation by Prescription; and that the Election of Burgesses had always been by the select Number: They insisted that the Records of E. I. shewed there were then
Members returned; but it did not appear by them who
were the Electors.
That they produced an ancient Book of the Corporation; by which it appeared, That several Courts had been
held by the Maneloquiums, and an Order made per Senescallum, and 24 for Wardinos, 37 H. VI.
That they produced their Charter; which recited, That
they had been a Corporation of Time immemorial.
Then where produced Indentures of Return, ss. of 28
Eliz. 1 Jac. 18 Jac. 21 Jac. 15 Car. I; under the Common Seal.
John Dawling, Edward Cook, John Read, Witnesses,
testified, They had known several Elections; and that all
they remembered were by the select Number.
And that, upon the whole Matter, the Counsel for the
Petitioners agreeing it was a Corporation by Prescription;
and, it appearing to the Committee, that the Usage of
the said Borough had been to choose Burgesses by the
Bailiff, and select Number only; the Committee came
to Two Resolutions: which he read in his Place; and
afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table:
Where the same being read, are as followeth:
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Right of Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the Borough of Andover in the County of
Southampton, is in the Bailiff, and select Number of Burgesses, only.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Francis Powlett and John Pollen, Esquires, are duly
elected Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament, for
the Borough of Andover.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That the Right of Election of Burgesses to serve
in Parliament for the Borough of Andover in the County
of Southampton, is in the Bailiff, and select Number of
Burgesses, only.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That Francis Powlett and John Pollen, Esquires,
are duly elected Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament, for the Borough of Andover.
New Sarum Election.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter, touching the
Election of Citizens to serve in this present Parliament
for the City of New Sarum in the County of Wilts, was
referred, the State of the Fact, as it appeared to the Committee: Which he produced in Writing: Which, being
read at the Table, is as followeth:
Upon the Petition of Samuel Eyres, Esquire, and
David Thomas, Doctor in Physick, against Thomas
Hobby, and Giles Eyres, Esquires, the Sitting Members for the City of New Sarum.
That the Petitioners did not appear: But the Petitioners
setting forth, in their Petition, that they were chosen
by the Majority of the Citizens; the Committee proceeded ex parte: And the Question appeared to be, Whether the Right of Election of Citizens to serve in Parliament, was in the select Number; or, in the Citizens in
general.
That, for the Sitting Members, the Counsel insisted,
That the City of New Sarum was a Corporation of Time
immemorial; consisting of a Mayor, 24 Aldermen, and
48 Common-council Men; who always had the Right of
Election of Citizens to serve in Parliament.
And to this Purpose, produced a Charter, 6° Car. Imi;
reciting, that they had divers ancient Prescriptions time
out of Memory, Charter, 9 Ja. Imi; reciting them to
be ancient Corporations of a Mayor, 24 Aldermen, and
48 Assistants.
That they produced several Indentures of Return of
Citizens to Parliament, 1 Mariæ; 14 Eliz; 1 Jac. I;
16 Car. I; 13 Car. II: All, under the common Seal.
Then they produced an ancient Book of the Corporation's, marked with the Letter [B]; by which it appeared, that an Election had been, 31 H. VI, of Two
Citizens, by the Mayor, 24 and 48 : That 33 H. VI,
there had been a like Election, by the same Number:
That, 39 H. VI, Primo E. VI, & 30 H. VIII, there
had been an Election, by the same Number.
That then was produced the Resolution of this House,
That Mr. Serjeant Hyde, and Mr. Oldsworth, were duly
elected, Anno 1640.
That then they produced a Book of the Corporation,
marked with the Letter `C]; by which it appeared, the
said Serjeant Hyde, and Mr. Oldsworth, were elected by
the Corporation.
Thomas Cooke, a Witness, said, He is aged Sixty-four
Years, or thereabouts; and that he never knew any Citizens sent to Parliament but they were elected by the Mayor,
24 Aldermen and Common-council Men; That he remembers the Election of 1640; and says, Serjeant Hyde,
and Mr. Oldsworth, were elected by the Corporation; and
the Inhabitants chose Two others; but those the Corporation chose did stand: He says, he was acquainted with
One Election in King Charles the First's Time; and with
all the Elections in King Charles the Second, and King
James the Second's Time.
Mr. Strong, Town Clerk of New Sarum, said, He has
known the City near Thirty Years; and the Elections of
Citizens for Parliament has always been by the Mayor
and Corporation; and the Inhabitants never pretended a
Right to it.
And that thereupon the Committee came to Two Resolutions: The which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where
the same being read, are as followeth:
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Right of Election of Citizens to serve in Parliament for the City of New Sarum in the County of Wilts,
is in the select Number.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Thomas Hobby, and Gyles Eyres, Esquires, being
chosen by the select Number, are duly elected Citizens to
serve in this present Parliament for the City of New Sarum.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That the Right of Election of Citizens to serve
in Parliament for the City of New Sarum in the County
of Wilts, is in the select Number.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That Thomas Hobby, and Gyles Eyres, Esquires,
being chosen by the select Number, are duly elected Citizens to serve in this present Parliament for the City of
New Sarum.
Cricklade Election.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Elections and Privileges, to whom the Matter, touching the
Election of Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament,
for the Borough of Cricklade in the County of Wilts, was
referred, the State of the Fact, as it appeared to the Committee: Which he produced in Writing: Which, being
read at the Clerk's Table, is as followeth:
Upon the Petition of Thomas Freke, Esquire, against
the Return of Edmund Webb, Esquire, for the Borough of Cricklade in the County of Wilts.
That the Question was, Whether the Poll was duly
closed, or no.
That it was agreed, by the Counsel on both Sides,
That the Right of Election was in the Freeholders and
Copy-holders of the Borough Houses, and Lease-holders
for any Term, not under Three Years: Only, the Counsel for Mr. Webb alledged, They ought to be possessed
of an Estate in their own Right, and not in Right of
their Wives.
Thomas Tainter, a Witness called on Behalf of the Petitioner, delivered in Two Papers: One containing a Poll
taken by the Bailiff; the other, taken by the Constable.
By the Poll, taken by the Bailiff, it appeared, That Mr.
Webb had Twenty-one Voices, Mr. Freke Five Voices.
By the Poll, taken by the Constable, it appeared, That
Mr. Freake, besides the Voices in the Bailiff's Poll, had
Forty-five Voices; Colonel Webb, Four. So that the Constable's Poll being taken for Good; in the whole, Mr.
Webb had Twenty-five Voices, Mr. Freke, Fifty.
That the said Thomas Tainter testified, That, when he
was Bailiff, he advised with his Neighbours, Who had
the Right of Election; and it was agreed by them, That
the Right was in the Free-holders, Copy-holders, and
Lease-holders; and they used to begin at one End of the
Town and so go to the other, and take the Houses in
Order; and the Majority of Voices carried it: But, this
last Election, the Bailiff called at what Houses he pleased;
and left the rest: That there used to be no Denial of
Voices, to Men that had an Estate in Right of their
Wives: That, after the Bailiff had denied to proceed in
the Poll, the Constable took it: That Mr. Fox had about
Sixty Votes; and Mr. Freke about Fifty: That one James
Bassett was excepted against by the Bailiff, because his
Estate was in Right of his Wife; though he used to vote,
and particularly had before polled for Colonel Webb, and
had been accepted: That the said Trainter himself, though
he has been a Freeholder of the Town these Threescore
Years, was denied to vote: And that he was there when
the Constable was spoke to, to go to the Bailiff to proceed on the Poll; but the Bailiff refused, saying, He was
in Fear of his Life.
Mr. Pledwell, a Witness, said, He was employed to take
the Poll; and as the Bailiff called them, he set them down:
That, by the Bailiff's Poll, Colonel Webb had Twenty-one
Votes; Mr. Freke, Five: That several offered themselves
to poll for Mr. Freke, but the Bailiff refused them: That
the Bailiff called William Fry to the Poll, and called him
Two or Three times before he would answer; says he,
"I call William Fry the younger;" says he, "Detain
no Poll:" Thereupon there was a great Shout; and he
shut up the Poll, and said he was in Fear of his Life.
John Gerring said, John Wilde, Bailiff of Cricklade, declared he would return Colonel Webb, if he had but Six
Voices; and that there was no King; and that it was but
a Convention; and, let the worst come to the worst, it
would cost him but Forty Pounds.
Charles Kilminster said, He heard the Bailiff say, he
would return Colonel Webb, if he had but Six Votes:
That he was present at the Election: That the Bailiff
began at one End of the Town, and skipped to the other:
And he remembers Three Elections; and they used to
begin at one End of the Town, and so proceed through,
in Order: That, when he had called all the Votes that
belonged to Colonel Webb, he left off: He says the
Bailiff refused to proceed on the Poll; and so the Constable took it.
Thomas Kilminster testified, The Bailiff said, if Colonel
Webb had but Six Votes, he would return Colonel Webb
for One: That he voted for Colonel Webb; but that
several that voted for him would not vote for him again;
because things were carried so foul.
Nathanael Bird said, He was at the Election: That the
Bailiff took Colonel Webb and Mr. Foxe's Votes first: He
says, they did not proceed according to the ordinary Way.
*Dennis said, He has been Bailiff of the Town of
Cricklade: That this Election did not go on as formerly,
because the Bailiff did not call House by House; and at
some Houses be believes he did not call at all: That, at
the Closing of the Poll, he called One or Two that had
no Votes; at which the People gave a Laughter: And
the Bailiff said, he was afraid of his Life; and closed the
Poll: Says, he never knew any excepted against, because
his Estate was in Right of his Wife; but has known Some,
whose Estates have been in Right of their Wives, that
have voted; and knows no occasion the Bailiff had to
say he was in Fear of his Life.
That, for Colonel Webb, the Sitting Member, the
Counsel then said, They would not insist against the Right
of Election, as to them polled by the Constable; but
would proceed to prove the Force: And called
Mr. Mascallyn, a Witness, who testified, That he was
at the Election; That the Bailiff desired him to take the
Poll: He says he presumes the Poll did not go on so
luckily as expected; and Mr. Freke called Rogue; and
one Mr. Bassett called Thief; and one Dennis was in a
very extravagant Passion, and struck one Mr. Williams;
which he supposes was the Occasion of the Hurly-burly
that happened: And says, he believes, the Bailiff was
afraid. He said, they intended to go on; and said he
was sent to by some Gentlemen to go on with his Poll;
and he said he would, if there was no Danger: Whereupon it was replied, if he was afraid, he had best take his
Pistols along with him: So he supposes the Bailiff was
afraid, and shut up the Poll.
That then he delivered in a List which the Bailiff
polled; and says, the Persons first placed are the Persons
that shewed their Leases to the Bailiff; the Persons placed
next were the Freeholders; and the last were those that
the Bailiff doubted their Right.
That when the last Person polled, the Disturbance
began; and he thought it impossible for the Bailiff to
proceed without great Abuses.
John Violet said, Before the Bailiff left Polling, there
was a great Mutiny; and he was hunched, but he see no
Blows struck; and thinks the Disturbance was so great
it was hard for the Bailiff to go on.
That when the Bailiff came to his House, they sent to
him to go on with his Poll; and the Bailiff told them, he
was afraid; says Mr. Freke's Brother, "If you are afraid,
you may come with Pistols in your Pocket, and defend
yourself."
Mr. Palmer said, he was present at the Time of the
Election; and there was great Noise and Disturbance:
That Silence was called Two or Three times; yet the
Noise went on: And he see Mr. Dennis with his Elbows
bouncing People up and down.
John Calfe said, a Man, employed by Mr. Freke, told
him, if he would draw his Beer for him, and be for him
he would pay him double and treble for it.
Mr. Fox, a Member of the House, said, he was at the
Election: He says, the First or Second that gave his Vote
was a Child, about Fifteen Years of Age, which giving Intimation of unfair Play, gave some Heat: At last one Fry
came (some one put in, to occasion Debate); and being
asked, if he had a Lease, said, he had none; there upon
there was a great Hum; and the Bailiff and Captain Masceline went away. He says, what Words of "Rogue" and
"Rascal" passed; he knows not, nor did take notice of
any great Noise; but when the Bailiff was withdrawn,
they considered how to proceed with the Poll: That he
sent his Servant to the Bailiff to go on with the Poll; but
he said, he was afraid: At last, they sent to tell him, the
Constable should keep the Peace: When the Constable
came, they called over the Names of those that had been
Bailiffs; and they were to be Judges of the Poll.
Sir Edmund Warnford, a Member, said, He was at the
Election: He says, he thought they proceeded very
quietly, till, upon the Dispute of a young Lad's being
polled, there grew a great Noise; and another being
called, who said he had no Lease, the Noise increased:
That he see no Blows; but the Bailiff shut up his Paper,
and said, he was in Danger of his Life: He was sent . . .,
to come, and go on with the Poll; but he said, he was
in Fear of his Life, and would not come.
And that, upon the whole Matter, the Committee was
of Opinion, the Poll was not duly closed by the Bailiff;
and came to Three Resolutions: Which he read in his
Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's
Table: Where the same being read, are as followeth:
Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That it is the Opinion
of this Committee, That the said Edmund Webb, Esquire,
is not duly elected a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament, for the Borough of Cricklade in the County of Wilts.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Thomas Freke, Esquire, is duly elected a Burgess
to serve in this present Parliament, for the Borough of
Cricklade.
Resolved, That the Proceedings of the said Bailiff, on
the said Poll, be reported specially to the House.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, That the said Edmund Webb,
Esquire, is not duly elected a Burgess to serve in this
present Parliament for the Borough of Cricklade in the
County of Wilts.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, That Thomas Freke, Esquire,
is duly elected a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament for the Borough of Cricklade.
Ordered, That John Wyld, Bailiff of the Borough of
Cricklade in the County of Wilts, be sent for, in Custody
of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, for his
Miscarriages in the Matter of the Election of Burgesses
to serve in this present Parliament for the said Borough.
Aulnage Duty.
Ordered, That the Committee to whom it is referred
to consider of the several Petitions, complaining of divers
Abuses committed by the Aulnagers, be revived; and
do sit on Wednesday next, at Four of the Clock in the
Afternoon.
Ordered, That all the Members that serve for the
County of Suffolke be added to the said Committee.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Mr. Sandford have Leave to go into the
Country, for Three Weeks, his House being burnt.
Rye Election.
Colonel Birch reports, from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter touching the
Election of Barons to serve in this present Parliament for
the Town and Port of Rye, was referred, the State of the
Fact, as it appeared to the Committee: Which he produced in Writing: Which being read at the Table, is as
followeth:
Upon the Petition of Sir John Austen, against Thomas
Frewen, Esquire, touching the Election of Rye in
the County of Sussex;
That the Question was, Whether the Right of Election of Barons to serve in Parliament for the said Town,
was in the Freemen, that are resident in the said Town,
only; or, in the Freemen of the said Town, that are not
resident there, as well those that are resident, in the
same.
That, for the Petitioner, the Counsel insisted, that
the Petitioner had Sixteen unquestionable Votes; that the
Sitting Member, Mr. Frewen, had Twenty-one Votes;
but that Five of them were made by Mr. Crouch, and
Four others by Mr. Radford, who were not lawful Mayors;
and consequently they not lawful Freemen: So that, taking Nine from Mr. Frewen's Twenty-one Votes, there
would remain but Twelve for Mr. Frewen; and so Sir
John Austen had the Majority.
A Poll, delivered in by the Petitioner, taken for Sir
John Austen and Sir John Darrell;
Mich. Cadman, a Witness, said, The Persons that
signed the Poll are Sixteen in Number: He knows them
to be Freemen resident within the said Town at the time
of the Election.
Samuel Jeke, a Witness, said, He has lived, in the
Town above Sixty Years: Next Month, it is Thirtyeight Years since he was a Freeman: That he has been
Town Clerk several Years; and from 26 H. VI. to the
time of the Act of Regulations, there, is not One Precedent of any Foreign Freemen that appeared at any Election: That all Freemen are sworn to pay Scot and Lot,
which was always understood to bear their Part of the
Charge of the Franchises; but he never knew Foreigners
to pay towards the Charge of the Parish: That he never
knew any foreign Freemen, till the Act for Regulation of
Corporations, give any Vote, unless they had been Members of Parliament a Year before: That he never knew
any foreign Freemen serve at any Coronation as Barons,
from the Time of H. VI. till the Coronation of Charles
the Second; and it was but One then: That, for Eleven
Years he was Town Clerk, there was never a Farthing
Charge paid by any foreign Freeman towards the Charge
of a Bailiff to Yarmouth, or Wharsage; but apprehends,
if they were scotted they ought to pay; but never knew
them scotted.
That then they produced,
An Act of the Brotherhood and Ghestling, (which is in
the Nature of a Parliament for the Cinque Ports) That
none but resident Freemen should vote for any Head Officers or Barons: The Act was dated the 20th of Charles
the Second.
Mr. Tourney, a Witness,-That August 1681, was the
Day of Election of Mayor, by Custom in that Town; and
that Twenty Freemen appeared: That he and Crouch
stood. And that Crouch had but Nine Votes, and he the
said Tourney Eleven: That thereupon he demanded to be
sworn; and was sworn, by the old Mayor going out of
Office: But Mr. Crouch petitioned the Council, and was
appointed to act for the present, and he left to restore
himself by Law: That he sued out Three Mandamus's,
and at last had the Judgment, and was restored; but,
pending this, Mr. Crouch had called several Assemblies,
which cannot be but by a legal Mayor, and made William Williams, Antony Knight, John Collins, John Brooke,
and John Harberd, Freemen: That when he, the said
Mr. Turney, was in the Possession of the Mayoralty, he
called an Assembly; and it being moved, whether these
Freemen, admitted by Mr. Crouch, were legally admitted;
it was carried in the Negative; and they set aside.
That, at the next Election, Mr. Radford stood up to
oppose him in the Mayoralty: That he the said Mr.
Tourney had the Majority of Votes; but Mr. Radford,
petitioned the King and Council, and got him out of
Possession. He says, Where a Mayor is re-elected, or
dies, the eldest Jurat swears the Mayor by the Custom;
but the eldest Jurat refusing to give him his Oath, and
going about to swear Mr. Radford, he dismissed the Hundred; and then One Jurat swore Mr. Radford alone, contrary to the express Words of the Charter, that requires
Two to be present: That he was sworn before Two
Jurats, and did act till such time as Information was
brought against him for a Riot; and says, the old Mayor
ought to act till he has charged his Successor.
Mr. Jeke being asked, said, He had searched the Records, and there are Four Freemen entered there as made
by Mr. Radford; viz. Stretton, Dorrington, Davis, and
Longley.
Nich. Manouch testified, That those Persons were
made free by Radford.
That, for the Sitting Member, . . . . insisted that the
Question was only, Whether the foreign Freemen had a
Right to vote as well as the resient; and that it was not
material in this Case, whether they were made by a
Mayor de facto, or de jure.
Henry Dorrington a Witness, delivered in a Poll; and
said, In all, there polled for Mr. Frewin, Twenty-six Persons; viz. Twenty-one Freemen that were resient, and
Five foreign Freemen: That he heard Two others were
at the Door, to poll for Mr. Frewin; but they did not
come in, nor were polled, the Door being shut, which is
usual at Elections, but the Door was not locked: That
he himself was made a Freeman by Mr. Radford.
Goram and Gower said Two others came to the Door,
to offer their Votes for Mr. Frewin and Mr. Goffe, but
did not come in, the Door being shut, but not locked.
Mr. Gillart said, He has been a Freeman Twenty-four
Years; has known foreign Freemen vote for Burgesses;
and never knew them refused. He says he refused to swear
Mr. Turney, because Mr. Radford had the Majority of
Voices; Mr. Radford having Nine, and Mr. Tourney, Seven; but Tourney had besides Five of the expunged Men,
turned out by the Regulators of the Corporation: That
Mr. Radford had the Staff, and acted as Mayor; and that
the Mayor used always to be sworn by the eldest Jurat.
Sir Dennis Ashburnham said, He is a foreign Freeman
of this Corporation, and has been so ever since the Commission in 62; and has given his Vote several times for
Mayor: once for Welch, and another time for Mr. Radford, being sent for by the Town; but never voted for
Burgesses before now; which was for Mr. Frewin and
Mr. Goffe; that he claimed his Vote as a Freeman, and
the Mayor allowed it.
That then, they produced an Order, Anno 1661, by
the Mayor, Jurats, and Commonalty of Rye; by which
it was resolved, that a Freeman, by dwelling out of the
Franchises, should not lose his Freedom.
Another Witness said, None but Freemen of the Corporation, whether they live in the Town, or not, carry
the Canopy at the Coronation: And several Freemen that
have been Non-resients have been chosen to serve; Sir
Edw. Frewin that lived at Puttney was chosen to carry it.
And Mr. Hollman in 60 was a Non-resient; yet he
came to Assemblies, and gave his Vote, and several others,
for Mayors, but cannot say for any Parliament Men.
That then, the Oath of a Freeman was read; by
which they swear to pay Scot and Lot.
But that, upon the whole Matter, the Committee came
to Three Resolutions: Which he read in his Place; and
afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table:
Where the same being read, are as follow:
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
that the Right of Election of Barons to serve in Parliament for the ancient Town of Rye in the County of Sussex
is in the Freemen, that are resient in the said Town only.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
that Thomas Frewin, Esquire, is not duly elected a Baron
to serve in this present Parliament, for the said Town of
Rye.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
that Sir John Austin is duly elected a Baron to serve in
this present Parliament, for the said Town of Rye.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, That the Right of Election
of Barons to serve in Parliament, for the ancient Town of
Rye in the County of Sussex, is in the Freemen, that are
resient in the said Town, only.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, that Thomas Frewin, Esquire,
is not duly elected a Baron to serve in this present Parliament, for the said Town of Rye.
The Third of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, that Sir John Austin is duly
elected a Baron to serve in this present Parliament, for
the said Town of Rye.
Ordered, That the Mayor of the Town and Port of
Rye do forthwith attend this House, to amend the Return of Barons to serve in this present Parliament, for
the said Town and Port.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Mr. Ducket have Leave to go into the
Country, for Three Weeks, for his Health.
Exporting Corn, &c.
Sir Robert Nappier reports from the Committee, to
whom the Bill for exporting Corn and Grain was referred, That, the Committee having taken the same into
their Consideration, they had thought fit to make several
Amendments thereunto: Which he read in his Place,
with the Coherence; and afterwards delivered the same
in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once
read throughout; and afterwards again one by one;
and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed
unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be
ingrossed.
Repealing Act for governing Corporations.
A Bill for repealing the Act for governing Corporations, was read the Second time.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Sir Thomas
Clarges, Sir John Knight, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Sir John
Barker, Mr. Wogan, Mr. Dolben, Mr. Gwyn, Mr.
Sacheverell, Sir Hen. Johnson, Mr. Musgrave, Sir Robert Cotton, Mr. Done, Sir Francis Russel, Sir Hen.
Robart, Mr. Sandford, Sir Wm. Cooke, Sir Thomas Pope
Blunt, Major Wildman, Sir Robert Dashwood, Mr. Mansell, Mr. Arnold, Lord Downe, Sir Tho. Dyke, Sir H.
Ashurst, Lord Digby, Sir Wm. Williams, Sir Rob. Davers, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Sir Rob. Nappier, Mr. Fenwick, Mr. Robert, Sir Rob. Sawyer, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr.
Tho. Foley, Sir Rich. Temple, Mr. England, Mr. Boscowen: And all that come are to have Voices: And they
are to meet on Wednesday next in the Afternoon, at Four
of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
A Motion being made, that it be an Instruction to
the Committee, that none shall be admitted to any Place
of Magistracy, unless he have, within a Twelvemonth
before, received the Sacrement, according to the Church
of England;
A Debate arose thereupon:
It was moved, That the Debate might be adjourned
until Wednesday next come Sevennight:
And the Question being put, That the Debate be adjourned, accordingly;
The House divided.
The Yeas go forth.
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Sir Rowland Gwyn, |
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Mr. Musgrave, |
114. |
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And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Bill of Comprehension.
Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That a Committee be
appointed to prepare a Bill of Comprehension.
And it is referred to Sir Jos. Tredenham, Sir John
Knight, Mr. Wogan, Sir Wm. Williams, Mr. Garway,
Mr. Musgrave, Lord Falkland, Mr. Buscowen, Mr. Gwyn,
Sir Rob. Cotton, Mr. Bicker staffe, Mr. Done, Sir Tho.
Clarges, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr. Windham, Sir John Holt,
Mr. Dolben, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Rob. Nappier, Mr.
Godolphin, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Mr. Hamden, Sir Edw.
Harley, Major Wildman, Colonel Birch, Sir Tho. Barnardiston, Sir John Barker, Mr. Tho. Foley: And they
are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, at Four of the
Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Answer to Address.
Sir William Williams acquaints the House, That such
Members of the House, as were of his Majesty's most
honourable Privy Council, and himself, had presented to
his Majesty, the Address of Thanks of this House, for
his Majesty's most gracious Message, touching the Bill
of Indemnity, and General Pardon: And that his Majesty was pleased thereupon to give a most gracious
Answer, to the Effect following:
Gentlemen,
I am pleased with doing what you like; and do expect
you will further proceed to expedite the Indemnity and
Oblivion, which tends so much to an Union: I shall be
always forward to do My Part in this, and all things
that may unite My People.
Committee of Grievances.
Ordered, That the Committee, to whom it was referred
to examine the several Matters which were reported
from the Grand Committee of Grievances, the Fifth of
March last, and who were the Authors and Advisers
thereof, be revived; and do meet on Wednesday next,
at Four of the Clock.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned till Tomorrow.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Nine of the Clock.