House of Commons Journal Volume 10
30 November 1691

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 30 November 1691', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 10: 1688-1693 (1802), pp. 566-567. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=29157 Date accessed: 02 October 2014.


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Lunæ, 30 die Novembris; 3° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

HENRY de Messue de Ruvigny, Renatus Jortin, Jacob Van Flierden, Rowland Gowle, and Anna Lowise Hinderson, took the Oaths, in order to their Naturalization.

Wittering Manor.

Sir Fran. Vincent report from the Committee to whom the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the Sale of the Manor and Lands of Wittering in the County of Northampton, and the Advowson of the Church of Wittering aforesaid, late the Inheritance of William Stydolph, Esquire, deceased, late Father of Sigismond Stydolph, Esquire, was committed, That they had agreed to the Bill, without any Amendments: The which he delivered in at the Table.

And the Bill was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Sir Francis Vincent do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House has agreed to the same, without any Amendments.

Defaulter at Call of the House.

Ordered, That John Pollexfen, Esquire, a Member of this House, in Custody of the Serjeant at Arms, for not attending the Service of the House, be admitted into the House, having paid his Fees to the Serjeant.

Debtors Escapes.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for the better Relief of Creditors, and preventing Escapes.

Putt's Estate.

Mr. Christie reports from the Committee to whom the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable the Executors and Trustees of Sir Tho. Putt, Baronet, deceased, to lease several Messuages, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, during the Minority of Thomas Putt, Baronet, Son and Heir of Sir Thomas Putt, towards the Payment of Five hundred Pounds apiece Legacies to his Three Sisters, Margaret, Ursula, and Susanna Putt, as also the Debts of the said Sir Thomas Putt the Father, was committed, That they had agreed to the Bill, without any Amendments.

Privilege a Person discharged from custody.

Doctor Wellwood was, according to Order, brought to the Bar; where, upon his Knees, he received a Reprimand from Mr. Speaker.

Ordered, That the said Doctor Wellwood be discharged out of Custody, paying his Fees.

Earl of Ailesbury's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the making a Twelve Years Lease made by the Earl and Countess of Ailesbury, for Payment of Debts, which was determinable on their Deaths, to have Continuance absolutely for those Twelve Years, was read the Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Christie, Mr. Colt, Mr. Gray, Mr. Piggott, Sir Henry Caple, Sir Rob. Henley, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir John Knight, Mr. Goldwell, Mr. Arnold, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Shackerly, Mr. Bockenham, Mr. Chetwynd, Sir Tho. Darcy, Mr. Done, Mr. Burdet, Major Vincent, Marquis Worcester, Sir Tho. Clargis, Mr. Freeman, Mr. Hawtry, Mr. Cary, Sir Hen. Ashurst, Mr. Anchitell Gray, Sir Tho. Bernardiston, Sir Sam. Bernardiston, Mr. John Gray, Sir John Moreton, Mr. Fuller, Sir Edw. Seymour, Mr. Willmott, Mr. Hedger, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Mr. Cooke, Colonel Perry, Sir Wm. Whitlock, Sir Jervas Elwes, Sir Bowchier Wray, Mr. Randoll, Sir Orlando Gee: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Oath of Supremacy in Ireland.

Then the House, according to the Order of the Day, proceeded to take into Consideration the Amendments, made by the Lords, to the Bill, intituled, An Act for the abrogating the Oath of Supremacy in Ireland, and appointing other Oaths.

And the same were once read throughout; and are as followeth; viz.

Skin 5, Line 15, leave out "of the Church of Ireland."

Skin 8, Line 3, after "Factory," add "or to any Chaplains in their Majesties Service by Sea or Land out of the Kingdom of Ireland."

Skin last, Line 26, after "notwithstanding," add the Clauses marked A; and leave out the End of the Bill.

Clauses A.

"That all Persons in any Ecclesiastical Office or Promotion in Ireland, that shall be in England the First Day of Hilary Term 91, shall take the Oaths, and subscribe the Declaration, before the End of that Term; and do the same again in Ireland before Twenty-fifth July 1692, on the Penalties of Deprivation, and being made incapable of any such their Employments, Offices, or Salaries."

That the Act shall not extend to the Persons who, Third October 91, were inhabiting in any Garison then in the Hands of the Irish; but they are to make their Claims of Right before the End of Michaelmas Term then next."

"That Two or more Justices in Ireland may, by Warrant, summon any Person above Eighteen before them, to take the aforesaid Oath; and on Refusal, may commit such Person, without Bail or Mainprize, for Three Months, unless such Person pay down Forty Shillings for the First Default; and Imprisonment of Six Months, or Payment of Ten Pounds, for the Second; and be bound over to the next Quarter Sessions; where, if such Person persist in Refusal, he shall incur the Penalties of Premunire."

Then the Two First Amendments were read a Second time; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

And the Third Amendment, by adding Clauses A to the Bill, was, as to the First Paragraph thereof, read a

Second time, and Third time; and, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Then the Two subsequent Provisoes, beginning Press 3. Line 3, and ending Press 4, Line 7, were read a Second time.

And the Question being put, That the House do agree with the Lords in the Amendment, as to the said Provisoes;

It passed in the Negative.

Then the last Paragraph in the said Clause was read a Second time.

And an Amendment being proposed to be made by adding a Clause, or Proviso; which was delivered in at the Table, and twice read, as followeth;

"That it shall be sufficient for every Protestant Dissenter, called Quaker, upon producing a Certificate from Six of sufficient Persons of their Congregation, owning such Person for one of them, to make and subscribe the Declaration in the Proviso;

An Amendment was proposed to be made therein, by leaving out the Word "Protestant" throughout;

Which was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

And then the said Amendment was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House, to be made Part of the said Paragraph.

Then the said Paragraph, so amended, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment, so amended.

Then the last Amendment, to leave out from Line 26, in the last Press of the Bill; which was, That the said Act should not be dispensed with by any Warrants, or Letters Patents under the Great Seal of England or Ireland, was read a Second time.

And the Question being put, That the House do agree with the Lords in the said Amendment;

It passed in the Negative.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to prepare Reasons to be offered at a Conference with the Lords, Why this House doth not agree with the Lords in the said Amendment.

And it is referred unto Sir Tho. Clarges, Mr. Solicitor General, Mr. Hamden, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Mr. Leving, Mr. Paul Foley, Sir Rich. Reynell, Mr. Mountague, Sir Hen. Capell, Sir Walter Young, Lord Rawleigh, Mr. Attorney General, Mr. How, Lord Digby, Sir Edw. Seymour, Colonel Titus, Mr. Palmes, Sir Rich. Temple, Sir Peter Colleton, Sir Rob. Henley, Sir Rob. Cotton: And they are to meet To-morrow Morning at Eight of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Publick Revenue.

Then the House was acquainted from the Commissioners for taking the publick Accompts, That they had prepared a State of the Incomes and Issues of the publick Revenue from the Fifth November 1688, to Michaelmas last, with their Observations thereupon, to be laid before the House at such Time as the House should appoint.

Ordered, That the said State and Observations be laid before the House To-morrow Morning at Ten a Clock.

Hertford Roads.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Saturday Morning next, at Eleven a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for reviving a former Law for Repair of the Highways in the County of Hertford.

Supply.

Then the House, according to the Order of the Day, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supplies to be granted to their Majesties for the carrying on a vigorous War against France.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General reports from the said Committee, That they had directed him to move the House, That a Committee be appointed to consider of the List of the Forces, as to such of them as his Majesty has been pleased to signify he thinks necessary to be continued in England, Scotland, and the West Indias, and to be transported beyond the Seas for the Service of the Year 1692; and also of the List of the General Officers; and the Estimate of the Ordnance; and of the Abstract of the Establishment of the Garisons; and to report their Opinions therein to the House.

Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to consider of the List of the Forces, as to such of them as his Majesty has been pleased to signify he thinks necessary to be continued in England, Scotland, and the West Indies, and to be transported beyond the Seas, for the Service of the Year 92; and also the List of the General Officers; and the Estimate of the Establishment of the Garisons; and to report their Opinions therein, to the House.

And it is referred to Lord Cornbury, Mr. Harley, Mr. Solicitor General, Mr. Foley, Lord Castleton, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Jervas Elwes, Sir John Guise, Mr. Glanville, Sir Rich. Onslow, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir John Barker, Sir Fra. Guybon, Lord Colchester, Sir Sam. Bernardiston, Lord Brandon, Mr. Goldwell, Lord Fitzharding, Sir Wm. Forrester, Lord Ranelagh, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Mr. Comptroller, Mr. White, Lord Falkland, Sir John Knight, Colonel Churchill, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Sir Rich. Temple, Sir Edw. Seymour, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir John Lowther, Colonel Godfrey, Sir Wm. Ellis, Major General Trelawny, Sir Rob. Cotton, Sir Rob. Henley, Sir Wm. Cooke, Lord Eland, Sir Peter Colleton, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr. Palmes, Major Perry, Sir Hen. Capell, Sir Wm. Honeywood, Mr. Stanley, Mr. Cary, Mr. Chadwick, Mr. Maine, Mr. Tilney, Sir Tho. Samwell, Colonel Trelawny: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Mr. Solicitor General also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the Committee to move the House, That the Committee may have Leave to sit again.

Ways and Means.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning at Eleven a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of Ways and Means for raising the Supplies to be granted to their Majesties, for the carrying on a vigorous War against France.

Transport Service.

Ordered, That the Commissioners for Transportation do bring to this House, To-morrow Morning, an Estimate of the Charge of the Hiré of the Transport Ships and other Charges of Transportation, for the Service of the Year 1692.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.