House of Commons Journal Volume 10
4 March 1693

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 4 March 1693', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 10: 1688-1693 (1802), pp. 842-843. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=29328 Date accessed: 28 July 2014.


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Sabbati, 4 die Martii; 5° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Bromhall's Debts.

AN ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the sale of such Interest as Tho. Bromhall, an Infant, hath in the Office of the Warden of the Fleet, and in Thirteen Houses adjoining, and in an Office of the Custody and Keeping of the Palace of Westminster, for the more effectual Payment of Debts, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass; and the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Mr. Waller do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the same, with some Amendments: To which Amendments this House desires their Lordships Concurrence.

Aulnage Duty.

Resolved, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to put them in mind of the ingrossed Bill, intituled, An Act for transferring the Collection of the Duty of Aulnage to the Custom-house, and for giving a Recompence to the Crown for the same.

Ordered, That Mr. Waller do carry the said Message.

Sheibell's, &c. Nat.

Then the House proceeded to take into Consideration the Amendments made by the Lords to the ingrossed Bill, intituled, An Act for the Naturalizing of Henry Sheibell, and others.

And the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as followeth:

Press 1. L. 38. after "Germany," add "George Penuce, Son of George Penuce, and Margaret his Wife, born at Smirna in Turkey, Philip Lewis Talbor, an Infant of about Twelve Years of Age, Son of Sir Rob. Talbor and Dame Eliz. his Wife, born at Paris in France, and Jean Sneeuw, Son of Jan Paterson Sneeuw and Annakie de Kest his Wife, born at Dort in Holland."

Press 2d, L. 15. after "Waldeck," insert "George Penuce, Philip Lewis Talbor, and Jan Sneeuw."

L. 32. The same Amendment.

Pr. 3. L. 16. after "Waldeck," insert "George Penuce, Philip Lewis Talbor, and Jan Sneeuw."

Ordered, That Mr. Waller do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the said Amendments.

Bishop of London's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for exchanging several Parcels of Land in the Parish and Manor of Fulham, belonging to the Bishoprick of London, and Part of the Bishoprick of London, for other Lands of the like Value, to Charles Earl of Monmouth, and his Heirs, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass; and the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Mr. Clarke do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them that this House hath agreed to the same, with some Amendments: To which Amendments this House desires their Lordships Concurrence.

Crown Office Proceedings.

Mr. Price reported from the Committee, to whom the Bill to regulate Proceedings in the Crown Office of the King's Bench at Westminster, was committed, That they had made several Amendments to the Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House: And which he read in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cooke and Mr. Meredeth;

Mr. Speaker,

Malicious Informations.

The Lords have agreed with this House, upon the Conference relating to the Subject Matter of the Amendments made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act to prevent malicious Informations in the Court of King's Bench, and for the more easy Reversal of Outlawries in the same Court; and have left out the Clause concerning Quominus.

Clandestine Mortgages.

Also the Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act to prevent clandestine Mortgages, without any Amendments.

William's Estate.

Also they have agreed to the Amendments made by this House to the Bill, intituled, An Act to enable Sir John William of Langibby Castle in the County of Monmouth, Baronet, to sell the Manors of Ewyas, Lacy, Waterston, and Trescaillan, and other Lands in the County of Hereford, and the Manor of Carwent, and other Lands in the County of Monmouth, for Payment of Debts.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Lotteries.

Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill for prohibiting the Use of all Lotteries, be read the Third time, upon Monday Morning next, at Ten a Clock.

Address on Irish Affairs.

Mr. Wharton reported from the Committee, to whom it was referred to prepare an Address to be presented to his Majesty, upon the Debate of the House, concerning the State of the Kingdom of Ireland, That they had prepared an Address accordingly; which they had directed him to report to the House: And which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was Twice read; and is as followeth; viz.

We your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Commons, in Parliament assembled, having taken into our serious Consideration the State of your Majesty's Kingdom of Ireland, find ourselves obliged, by our Duty to your Majesty, with all Faithfulness and Zeal to your Service, to lay before your Majesty the great Abuses and Mismanagements of the Affairs of that Kingdom.

By exposing your Protestant Subjects to the Misery of Free Quarter, and the Licentiousness of the Soldiers, to the great Oppression of the People there: Which we conceive hath been occasioned chiefly by the Want of that Pay, which we did hope we had fully provided for:

By recruiting your Majesty's Troops with Irish Papists, and such Persons who were in open Rebellion against you, to the great Endangering and Discouraging of your Majesty's good and loyal Protestant Subjects in that Kingdom:

By granting Protections to Irish Papists; whereby Protestants are hindred from their legal Remedies, and the Course of Law is stopped:

By reversing Outlawries for High Treason, against several Rebels in that Kingdom, not within the Articles of Lymrick, to the great Discontent of your Protestant Subjects there:

By letting the forfeited Estates at Under-rates, to the Lessening of your Majesty's Revenue:

By the great Embezilments of your Majesty's Stores, in the Towns and Garisons of that Kingdom, left by the late King James:

And by the great Embezilments which have been made in the forfeited Estates and Goods, which might have been employed for the Safety, and better Preservation, of your Majesty's Kingdom.

We crave Leave also to represent to your Majesty, That the Addition made to the Articles of Lymerick, after the same were finally agreed to, signed, and the Town thereupon surrendered, hath been a very great Encouragement to the Irish Papists, and a Weakening to the English Interest there.

Having thus, most gracious Sovereign, out of our affectionate Zeal to your Majesty's Service, with all humble Submission to your great Wisdom, laid before you these Abuses and Mismanagements in your Kingdom of Ireland, we most humbly beseech Your Majesty, for Redress thereof.

That the Soldiers may be paid their Arrears, and the Country what is due to them for Quarters; and that no Irish Papist may serve in your Army there.

And forasmuch as the Reducing of Ireland hath been of great Expence to this Kingdom, we do also humbly beseech your Majesty, That according to the Assurance your Majesty hath been pleased to give us, no Grant may be made of the forfeited Lands in Ireland, till there be be an Opportunity of settling that Matter in Parliament, in such Manner as shall be thought most expedient:

That a true Account of the Escheats, and forfeited Estates, both real and personal, and Stores left by the late King James, may be laid before your Commons in Parliament; to the End that the said Escheats, Forfeitures, and Stores, and the Embezilments thereof, may be inquired into:

That no Outlawries of any Rebels in Ireland may be reversed, or Pardons granted to them, but by Advice of your Parliament; and that no Protection may be granted to any Irish Papist, or stop the Course of Justice.

And, as to the additional Article, which opens so wide a Passage to the Irish Papists to come in, and repossess themselves of the Estates which they had forfeited by their Rebellion, we most humbly beseech your Majesty, That the Articles of Lymerick, with the said Addition, may be laid before your Commons in Parliament, that the Manner of obtaining the same may be inquired into; to the end it may appear by what means the said Articles were so enlarged; and to what Value the Estates thereby claimed do amount.

Thus may it please your Majesty, we your dutiful and loyal Subjects do lay these Matters in all Humility before you: And as your Majesty hath been pleased to give us such gracious Assurances of your Readiness to comply with us in any thing that may tend to the Peace and Security of this Kingdom, we doubt not of your Majesty's like Grace and Favour to that of Ireland; in the Safety and Preservation whereof this your Majesty's Kingdom is so much concerned.

Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That the said Address be agreed to.

Resolved, That the said Address be presented by the whole House.

Ordered, That such Members of this House as are of his Majesty's most honourable Privy Council do humbly know his Majesty's Pleasure when he will be attended by this House.

Precedents of Members absent beyond the Seas.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee to whom it was referred to search Precedents, what the House hath done in case where any of their Members have been employed in foreign Service beyond the Seas, or any Members otherwise absent from the Service of the House, be made upon Tuesday Morning next, at Eleven a Clock.

Supply Bill; Poll Tax.

Mr. Attorney General, according to the Order of the Day, reported from the Committee of the whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the Bill for the Review of the quarterly Poll, the Bill, with the Amendments made by the said Committee: The which he read in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

A Clause was offered to be added to the Bill, That no Fees shall be taken in any Office wherein any Receiver General is concerned in passing his Accompts, but such ancient Fees as shall be allowed by the Barons of the Exchequer.

And the same was Twice read; and, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House, to be made Part of the Bill.

Another Clause was offered to be added to the Bill, That every Receiver General shall return into the Exchequer, by the last Day of Easter Term next, a Duplicate of the whole Sum charged in every Place whereof he is Receiver General, upon Forfeiture of Fifty Pounds for Default thereof.

And the same was twice read; and, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House to be made Part of the Bill.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.

London Orphans.

Then the House, according to the Order of the Day, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for the Satisfaction of the Debts due to the Orphans of the City of London.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
Mr. Harcourt took the Chair of the Committee.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Harcourt reported from the said Committee, That they had made a further Progress in the Bill; and had directed him to move, That they may have Leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Tuesday Morning next, after the Report touching the absent Members, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the said Bill.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.

And then the House adjourned till Monday Morning next, Nine a Clock.